OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 "Daleks", "financial doping", "possibly the biggest cheats in sporting history", "11 years of solid rule-breaking". It sounds like a damning rap sheet, or perhaps just another sensationalist introduction to another of Alex Thomson's tabloid style pieces for Channel 4 News. Always trying to come across as the reasonable but rigorously investigative outsider without an agenda, Thomson constantly falls to live up to his own manufactured billing, as he stumbles from one piece of propaganda to another, hitting all the bullet-pointed catchphrases we have grown weary of hearing from those with an agenda.I could deconstruct his every point, but it seems futile, as the man descends into a farcical pastiche of himself, losing all credibility on a national forum. Ultimately, Thomson's much heralded introduction to the scene has proven nothing other than an amusing late entry from another troll.Watching Scotland Tonight, I was struck by the fact that the Herald, Scotsman and Channel 4 were represented on STV by three thoroughly unimpressive media veterans, none of whom could be categorised as a decent example of a journalist. This isn't purely a problem relating to the telling of our story, but a general one related to the wider spectrum of media output.It's nice to see that the best performer last night was the Rangers fan, Chris Graham, and credit to him for that.So is it now time to largely ignore these media trolls, or are we better countering them and taking them to task? Are they a waste of our valuable time when there are more valid causes to fight, or are they more than mere trolls who need to be challenged? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 These people came to the fore by attacking us when we were vulnerable. They saw our weakness and used it for their own gains.We are now on the road to becoming stronger than we were before and these little men will drift away back into obscurity. They will be too far below us to even register on our radar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clan macrae 292 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Great post i couldnt agree more.these 2 non-entities have had a lot of publicity through our clubs misfortune.Its time they were transported back to the dark places from whence they came. sick to death of Brittany especially a turncoat if ever there was one.Wouldnt like him beside me in the trenches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblybear 258 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Like the rhats popping up from the sewer, they will always be there when they smell a story, even been known to make them up.We now have to deal with them accordingly Environmental Health Warings for the lot of them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIE8CH 296 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 fuck the lot of them.the best thing is to ignore their rants about our club and they will fall away and end up being nobodys again in due coarse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I think also its time for the national media to stop asking him and his like on to shows like that - he actually has very little to bring to the party and is simply there to bask in his own perceived glory. There are far more relevant people to be talking to.Last night, apart from Chris, we essentially had reporters talking to reporters and all they did was express there opinion.I dont want opinions, I want facts. Opinions are for Internet forums - not national TV and press Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 It's easier to be reticent, but this is far less productive, and potentially dangerous. It's clear that our opponents understand that the propaganda war is at its most effective when waged constantly, and that in this field 'more' tends to mean 'more' - more lies and more demonisation inevitably produces more deceived onlookers, and more resentment towards Rangers and the fans. It can be argued that the jealousy created by our success has already fructified the ground for their efforts, as is evidenced by the absurd reactions to the tax tribunal and yesterdays verdict.Negative propaganda is the sine qua non of turning ordinary people against other people, and in allowing the intolerable to be committed with impunity. It is with this in mind that I suggest that should we ignore those who continue to drip poison and misinformation, then let it be to importune those who employ them instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 No point ignoring them now we have won this battle we have to keep showing them up for the Liars they are.I do get your point that this somewhat validates the creatures though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmcl1980 2 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Send thomson back to syria asap, lots of lead in the air & hopefully the prick catches some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khancat 8 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Can't forgive or forget what these pompous pricks have done to Rangers. I want to see their heads on spikes outside the front door of Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker69 60 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I think it time we stopped defending and starting attacking those who tried to destroy us. Show them up where ever possible, highlight their lies and agenda and show them for their true colours. We have good people on our side let's take the fight to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Lady 2,380 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 "Daleks", "financial doping", "possibly the biggest cheats in sporting history", "11 years of solid rule-breaking". It sounds like a damning rap sheet, or perhaps just another sensationalist introduction to another of Alex Thomson's tabloid style pieces for Channel 4 News. Always trying to come across as the reasonable but rigorously investigative outsider without an agenda, Thomson constantly falls to live up to his own manufactured billing, as he stumbles from one piece of propaganda to another, hitting all the bullet-pointed catchphrases we have grown weary of hearing from those with an agenda.I could deconstruct his every point, but it seems futile, as the man descends into a farcical pastiche of himself, losing all credibility on a national forum. Ultimately, Thomson's much heralded introduction to the scene has proven nothing other than an amusing late entry from another troll.Watching Scotland Tonight, I was struck by the fact that the Herald, Scotsman and Channel 4 were represented on STV by three thoroughly unimpressive media veterans, none of whom could be categorised as a decent example of a journalist. This isn't purely a problem relating to the telling of our story, but a general one related to the wider spectrum of media output.It's nice to see that the best performer last night was the Rangers fan, Chris Graham, and credit to him for that.So is it now time to largely ignore these media trolls, or are we better countering them and taking them to task? Are they a waste of our valuable time when there are more valid causes to fight, or are they more than mere trolls who need to be challenged?Agree with everything in that, saves me a bit of ranting as well so thanks...Most respectable observers will now see the Vipers for what they are.What has become obvious is no matter what lies we expose them for they will continue to defame the club.So unfortunately there is little to be gained by taking them on in a debate.The only option we are left with is legal action, I would like to think that now the obstacles towards justice have been removed that this will begin to happen soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Agree with everything in that, saves me a bit of ranting as well so thanks...Most respectable observers will now see the Vipers for what they are.What has become obvious is no matter what lies we expose them for they will continue to defame the club.So unfortunately there is little to be gained by taking them on in a debate.The only option we are left with is legal action, I would like to think that now the obstacles towards justice have been removed that this will begin to happen soonI enjoy your rants. You're better informed than those in the media appear to be.I think you may be right on the legal action. I think Thomson and Spiers may both have left themselves open to such avenues given their output.I hope someone looks into this and I may spend some time doing so myself. It would be a worthwhile complaint with potentially more effect than responding directly to his trolling, which is what it is, since they would lose some of the attention whilst getting it in the neck from the relevant ombudsman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 It's easier to be reticent, but this is far less productive, and potentially dangerous. It's clear that our opponents understand that the propaganda war is at its most effective when waged constantly, and that in this field 'more' tends to mean 'more' - more lies and more demonisation inevitably produces more deceived onlookers, and more resentment towards Rangers and the fans. It can be argued that the jealousy created by our success has already fructified the ground for their efforts, as is evidenced by the absurd reactions to the tax tribunal and yesterdays verdict.Negative propaganda is the sine qua non of turning ordinary people against other people, and in allowing the intolerable to be committed with impunity. It is with this in mind that I suggest that should we ignore those who continue to drip poison and misinformation, then let it be to importune those who employ them instead.Excellent post. Very well argued. No point ignoring them now we have won this battle we have to keep showing them up for the Liars they are.I do get your point that this somewhat validates the creatures though.It is indeed a double-edged sword.I think the responses are swaying me towards the more combative option of countering and exposing their propaganda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker69 60 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Excellent post. Very well argued. It is indeed a double-edged sword.I think the responses are swaying me towards the more combative option of countering and exposing their propaganda. Take the fight to them Oleg you are better equipped than most Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The two "reporters" and the lickspittle that is Spiers who tried to belittle Lord Nimmo Smith's report last night are only the tip of a Titanic-sinking-type iceberg of Rangers-hating wankers who won't stop sniping. Full stop.As far as Toxic Thomson goes, he will slither back under his Ch-4 rock in middle England and try to distance himself from all of this (the sleekit bastard was attempting to do that last night with his fawning"I agree with Chris" remark) and he will cease to be part of the problem - the other two (English and Creep) will continue their onslaught on BBC Scotland (radio and TV) and in Spiers' case, on any media outlet that will pay him a fee for appearing.These two bastards must be challenged at every turn. Spiers was shown up last night as a man with no class.I look forward to his "Ashton Lane" moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger50champ 300 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I think also its time for the national media to stop asking him and his like on to shows like that - he actually has very little to bring to the party and is simply there to bask in his own perceieved glory. There are far more relevant people to be talking to.Last night, apart from Chris, we essentially had reporters talking to reporters and all they did was express there opinion.I dont want opionions, I want facts. Opinions are for Internet forums - not national TV and pressGood post Cushy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviecooper01 826 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The two "reporters" and the lickspittle that is Spiers who tried to belittle Lord Nimmo Smith's report last night are only the tip of a Titanic-sinking-type iceberg of Rangers-hating wankers who won't stop sniping. Full stop.As far as Toxic Thomson goes, he will slither back under his Ch-4 rock in middle England and try to distance himself from all of this (the sleekit bastard was attempting to do that last night with his fawning"I agree with Chris" remark) and he will cease to be part of the problem - the other two (English and Creep) will continue their onslaught on BBC Scotland (radio and TV) and in Spiers' case, on any media outlet that will pay him a fee for appearing.These two bastards must be challenged at every turn. Spiers was shown up last night as a man with no class.I look forward to his "Ashton Lane" moment.We can defeat them with words & facts.Anything else is unacceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 We can defeat them with words & facts.Anything else is unacceptable.Unacceptable of course, but maybe rather amusing also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 They should be engaged head on, their lies challenged and their agenda driven drivel exposed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemdale1873 167 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 It seems like anytime that some kind of big news breaks about Rangers Spiers always finds his way on to one platform or another be it Radio or TV.The amount of different broadcasters that give him a gig as well is astonishing, He is always at the centre of everything anytime news breaks about Rangers usually to put the boot in.As for Thomson i think this troll is almost about to give up and move on to a real news story now, he can't tell lies anymore so that's his blogspot shot to bits.No more Rangers did not pay £140m in tax lies and no more Rangers cheated lies.Expect a few digs at Rangers over the next few weeks then the disappearance back into obscurity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 We can defeat them with words & facts.Anything else is unacceptable.Did I suggest anything other than 'words'?I just added that, if (when?) his Ashton Lane moment comes, I will cheer from the rafters.It's a free country and I can choose to celebrate his impending downfall in my own way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I thought the idea was to cut-off the oxygen from these people. Surely the viewing audience, when faced with the same droning drivel from the same droning heads, will follow suit. However, your project sounds too enticing to miss, OK. Dispatch them in style, brother. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 These two should not be replied to, but monitored to keep check of what they are saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 It seems like anytime that some kind of big news breaks about Rangers Spiers always finds his way on to one platform or another be it Radio or TV.The amount of different broadcasters that give him a gig as well is astonishing, He is always at the centre of everything anytime news breaks about Rangers usually to put the boot in.As for Thomson i think this troll is almost about to give up and move on to a real news story now, he can't tell lies anymore so that's his blogspot shot to bits.No more Rangers did not pay £140m in tax lies and no more Rangers cheated lies.Expect a few digs at Rangers over the next few weeks then the disappearance back into obscurity.He talks over the top of people to an annoying degree...He knows fuck all about our culture. He watches from the outside fucking wannabe snob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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