Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If all these clubs keep tumbling like dominoes Scotland may end up with 42 teams in one division.To those who kicked us while we were down ---- Karma is a Bitch.To those who failed to defend us ---- Many of you took money generated by RFC for years and milked the fans everytime we visited your grounds. Well that cash cow is no longer producing on your behalf. Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The following could be up there with all the great conspiracies ........ The problem facing many clubs financiallEy, one could paint a picture of a certain club pulling strings and playing on the bitter jealousy of certain spl clubs.In that, this club not being a real scottish club, merely an irish club that happens to play it, s football in our league, according to the on called ceasar . One with a suspicious mind could put this together along with their desire to get into a league in another country their fans detest and that flies the flag that both club and fans despise!So with having a league collapse may open that very door!!The above are merely ramblings of an ordinary fan trying to make sense of what's going on . Indeed some may say that the above is as far fetched as thinking that some club would allegedly cover up abuse against young players, but certainly gives food for thought.Could someone copy and paste this and start a new topic cheers, on I touch and can't seem to do thid Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedart1952 1,392 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The following could be up there with all the great conspiracies ........ The problem facing many clubs financiallEy, one could paint a picture of a certain club pulling strings and playing on the bitter jealousy of certain spl clubs.In that, this club not being a real scottish club, merely an irish club that happens to play it, s football in our league, according to the on called ceasar . One with a suspicious mind could put this together along with their desire to get into a league in another country their fans detest and that flies the flag that both club and fans despise!So with having a league collapse may open that very door!!The above are merely ramblings of an ordinary fan trying to make sense of what's going on . Indeed some may say that the above is as far fetched as thinking that some club would allegedly cover up abuse against young players, but certainly gives food for thought.Could someone copy and paste this and start a new topic cheers, on I touch and can't seem to do thid That's what I have been thinking for sometime, but keep asking myself if I am being over suspicious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 That's what I have been thinking for sometime, but keep asking myself if I am being over suspicious.It does sound far fetched, but with that club you can never tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbryce 63 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Sad, ok do they have any decent players that would be useful to us??? as they will be free to sign for any clubThey will become free agents, but I think our player registration ban includes not signing free agents. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 When the RFFF used our supporters money to pay them - Sandy Jardine handing the cheque to Yorkston in person - the RFFF chairman Andrew McCormick said: "After some discussion, it was agreed that we should use some of the money collected by our fans to pay off this outstanding debt. This is a debt of honour to a club of honour."Only a matter of weeks later, Yorkston had this to say: “Most of us feel that because they are who they are, Rangers would get away with the lesser sentence but a cup suspension is not enough. This is more than a small administrative error that saw us and other clubs expelled from the Scottish Cup.“None of us want to see Rangers go out of business but given the choice between the options available to the SFA, there is only one decision.“I always thought relegation was the appropriate measure but I don’t know if they can find a middle ground any more because they tried that already with the transfer embargo.“That’s what makes Rangers’ decision to go to the courts so foolish. They were badly advised because everyone knows you don’t go to court. People will blame the administrators for that but there are still folk at Rangers who should have known you just don’t do that. You don’t go to court unless you know all the facts and not enough research was done to check what the consequences would be.”Yorkston - like so many of the others - was gum-bumping on a presumption of guilt. Fuck Dunfermline. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbryce 63 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 3rd Division is going to be a bigger league than normal.This year's 3rd division will see a lot of promotions to the 2nd division. Not just us and whoever wins the play-offs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I don't know if this is gen up or not, a source of mine in Dunfermline has told me green has been in contact with pars bosses, now he didn't go into any more details but he thinks we could be playing them at east endagain take this as a pinch of salt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKA 545 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 No sympathy. Yorkston was very outspoken against us. Fuck them !Shouldn't have wasted so much on "errocrution ressons..." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieG54 812 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I see the SPL have given Dunfermline an advance of a payment which is not due until next season.They keep our prize money and don't try one bit to help when we are in trouble. Ours was the owner but Dunfermline is just with no cash and unable to pay players.The Sun give the pars crisis half a page today haha.Goldberg- Who's Next!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietofWorms 2,079 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Wait until the raith rovers fans start the Dunfermline tax case blog The Cowdenbeath 'thoughts on Scottish law' blog will be worth watching too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If yorskton and that the alleged crook Masterton are gone I'd be happy to see a friendly between us an Dunfermline to help raise money for them. Good PR for us and we can wait until one of the SPL mob who voted us out go under and stand back and watch. Hearts look favourite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clan macrae 292 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I see the SPL have given Dunfermline an advance of a payment which is not due until next season.They keep our prize money and don't try one bit to help when we are in trouble. Ours was the owner but Dunfermline is just with no cash and unable to pay players.The Sun give the pars crisis half a page today haha.Goldberg- Who's Next!?Do you not mean SFL Dunfermline are in the first division? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,621 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 the point is, did we ask for the SPL to advance us moneyBy all accounts i never remember Duff and Phelps ever coming out saying that the SPL have refused to help us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,417 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 When the RFFF used our supporters money to pay them - Sandy Jardine handing the cheque to Yorkston in person - the RFFF chairman Andrew McCormick said: "After some discussion, it was agreed that we should use some of the money collected by our fans to pay off this outstanding debt. This is a debt of honour to a club of honour."Only a matter of weeks later, Yorkston had this to say: “Most of us feel that because they are who they are, Rangers would get away with the lesser sentence but a cup suspension is not enough. This is more than a small administrative error that saw us and other clubs expelled from the Scottish Cup.“None of us want to see Rangers go out of business but given the choice between the options available to the SFA, there is only one decision.“I always thought relegation was the appropriate measure but I don’t know if they can find a middle ground any more because they tried that already with the transfer embargo.“That’s what makes Rangers’ decision to go to the courts so foolish. They were badly advised because everyone knows you don’t go to court. People will blame the administrators for that but there are still folk at Rangers who should have known you just don’t do that. You don’t go to court unless you know all the facts and not enough research was done to check what the consequences would be.”Yorkston - like so many of the others - was gum-bumping on a presumption of guilt. Fuck Dunfermline.Have sympathy for the genuine fans, employees and players. Not for the club or owners. First of many about to disappear from Scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,310 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 If yorskton and that the alleged crook Masterton are gone I'd be happy to see a friendly between us an Dunfermline to help raise money for them. Good PR for us and we can wait until one of the SPL mob who voted us out go under and stand back and watch. Hearts look favourite.You really think that this gesture will change opinions about us? Didn't the fighting fund pay Dunfermline money owed by the bulging eyed fraudster and we were still accused of not paying debts and their chairman still put his boot into us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 1,150 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Do you not mean SFL Dunfermline are in the first division?Th SPL have paid hem a parachute payment from last season early Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 You really think that this gesture will change opinions about us? Didn't the fighting fund pay Dunfermline money owed by the bulging eyed fraudster and we were still accused of not paying debts and their chairman still put his boot into us.Yep the club acted like arseholes but the owners are gone as far as I know and it's been left in the hands of fans and Leishman to sort it. Not unlike us, Dunfermline have been fucked over by alleged crooks in charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,417 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Seems they've repeatedly not paid wages on time, and don't have funds to do so. Also haven't paid footballing debts for share of ticket money from cup tie v hamilton.Hammered? No, an advance payment instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,310 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Yep the club acted like arseholes but the owners are gone as far as I know and it's been left in the hands of fans and Leishman to sort it. Not unlike us, Dunfermline have been fucked over by alleged crooks in charge.Huge difference, they have been bailed out to the tune of millions by Masterton and a couple of others who said they would not put any more money into the club and then fans protests forced them off the board. I do not like Masterton over the way he treated the players but he did not take millions out of the club,unlike the crook we had, but put millions in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Huge difference, they have been bailed out to the tune of millions by Masterton and a couple of others who said they would not put any more money into the club and then fans protests forced them off the board. I do not like Masterton over the way he treated the players but he did not take millions out of the club,unlike the crook we had, but put millions in.I can't vouch for its authenticity but there's a doc going around apparently from a PI into their finances, hired by the fans. I it's to be believed then Masterton has been up to no good. I stress IF because I haven't followed the story too closely Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 They will become free agents, but I think our player registration ban includes not signing free agents.Correct but if any of the players wanted to come to us they could sign up with us and wait till sept. 1st to be registered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain1712 336 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Th SPL have paid hem a parachute payment from last season early That'll be another vote in the bag for league construction ! CORRUPT TO THE CORE Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,310 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The bottom line is, and this applies to so many clubs; if their so called loyal fans actually went to games then these clubs would not be the hole they are in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Seems they've repeatedly not paid wages on time, and don't have funds to do so. Also haven't paid footballing debts for share of ticket money from cup tie v hamilton.Hammered? No, an advance payment instead.Paid money from the SPL early. That must be an unfair advantage. What about sporting integrity. For justice to be done there must be sanctions, fines, point deductions, relegated to SFL3, investigations by QC's, etc, etc, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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