JM1872 3,706 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Posted as a new thread on request. We all know what the media are like these days for exaggerating stories or printing nothing other than lies, especially in the world of football. It is often said that the media run football in today's world and their headlines can paint situations in a different light, can lead to boardroom splits and can spark many other issues. Yesterday an article was published claiming that "POLICE FIGURES" showed Celtic AND Rangers league attendances this season to date have been inflated by numbers of upto 20,000 more than the actual figure announced. Having attended all home games this season, I knew instantly this wasn't true. We are all well aware that Celtic have been announcing untrue figures and the Police figures back that up.A particular statement by the DR was that Rangers v Queens Park in October was announced as being 48k+ but POLICE FIGURES actually were 34/35k. Well, Bears, courtesy of an individual on Twitter, under the Freedom of Information Act, this was tweeted:I don't see the figure "35,000" anywhere on the document. Numbers have been calling for a while now that Celtic be outed for their 'doctoring' of attendances and the Daily Record happily took up the offer... But only on the condition they took us down with them. They just couldn't keep us separated but this time they have made themselves look ridiculous.I know this is only for one game, and that the Daily Record claimed attendances were falsely reported, but I would be astounded if any of the actual figures DR reported were true - and remember they claimed they were real "POLICE FIGURES". The situation could easily be resolved by further requests under the FOIA and I would imagine there will be many filed in the coming weeks.So there it is. We all knew about the lies and twisting of stories to suit the media's own agenda and if anybody was ever in any doubt the confirmation is there in black and white.Is there likely to be any action taken by the club on the matter? Is there any possible way that action can be taken? Could even the Police (unlikely, I know) take action?This story has legs in it yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,741 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Try the recent QP game as I think it's that one they meant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Posted as a new thread on request.We all know what the media are like these days for exaggerating stories or printing nothing other than lies, especially in the world of football. It is often said that the media run football in today's world and their headlines can paint situations in a different light, can lead to boardroom splits and can spark many other issues.Yesterday an article was published claiming that "POLICE FIGURES" showed Celtic AND Rangers league attendances this season to date have been inflated by numbers of upto 20,000 more than the actual figure announced. Having attended all home games this season, I knew instantly this wasn't true. We are all well aware that Celtic have been announcing untrue figures and the Police figures back that up.A particular statement by the DR was that Rangers v Queens Park in October was announced as being 48k+ but POLICE FIGURES actually were 34/35k. Well, Bears, courtesy of an individual on Twitter, under the Freedom of Information Act, this was tweeted:I don't see the figure "35,000" anywhere on the document.Numbers have been calling for a while now that Celtic be outed for their 'doctoring' of attendances and the Daily Record happily took up the offer... But only on the condition they took us down with them. They just couldn't keep us separated but this time they have made themselves look ridiculous.I know this is only for one game, and that the Daily Record claimed attendances were falsely reported, but I would be astounded if any of the actual figures DR reported were true - and remember they claimed they were real "POLICE FIGURES". The situation could easily be resolved by further requests under the FOIA and I would imagine there will be many filed in the coming weeks.So there it is. We all knew about the lies and twisting of stories to suit the media's own agenda and if anybody was ever in any doubt the confirmation is there in black and white.Is there likely to be any action taken by the club on the matter? Is there any possible way that action can be taken? Could even the Police (unlikely, I know) take action?This story has legs in it yet.Maybe we should organise something on Rangers Media to get FOI requests for all Rangers home games this season.I am increasingly getting pissed off at the accusation of free or cheap tickets aimed at Rangers as well. Maybe I am not worthy of a free or cheap ticket, but I have certainly not paid any less than £20 for a ticket this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Has anyone else got FOI requests for any other games this season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Try the recent QP game as I think it's that one they meantThe quoted attendance for that game was 46104, so doubt it was that game they meant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Fester 186 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Well done bud caught red handed the lying bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny_01 2,007 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 THE PHotograph they used to back up the Article in the Daily Record, was a photo taken from a Rangers vs Dundee Utd game last season too !!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,146 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 The scum was a difference of nearly 30k but they had to bring us in and lower the figure to 20k for both clubs. 30k is a bigger headline but I'm sure liewell only agreed to the print if we were mentioned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 well come on charles time to fight back the fans have found the proof time for you to take up yet another fight and demand a printed apology Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilko89 507 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 THE PHotograph they used to back up the Article in the Daily Record, was a photo taken from a Rangers vs Dundee Utd game last season too !!!!!!!!Noticed that mate! The cup game right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 THE PHotograph they used to back up the Article in the Daily Record, was a photo taken from a Rangers vs Dundee Utd game last season too !!!!!!!!I noticed that . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carling1873 1,401 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 3 Different figures for the same game, Daily Bheast use the lowest figure, there's a supprise not.Strathclyde Police need to get their act together, how they can have three different figures for one game is shocking.All the Daily Bheast need to do to validate the figure they had chosen to print was look on the Wille Vass site and it would confirm Ibrox was full, however that would not suit their agenda. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny_01 2,007 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Noticed that mate! The cup game right?YEAH Mate !!!!!! Look at the Score board, its the Dundee itd Crest !!! its an absolute SHOCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It defineatly looks like this is an article which had to be approved by lawwell.They've come under more and more pressure to explain the green seats so they excuse themselves by saying,Ok print it but only if you say...Rangers do it too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Aye also still had Ebel on the scoreboard ,( as another poster noticed too ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 3 Different figures for the same game, Daily Bheast use the lowest figure, there's a supprise not.Strathclyde Police need to get their act together, how they can have three different figures for one game is shocking.All the Daily Bheast need to do to validate the figure they had chosen to print was look on the Wille Vass site and it would confirm Ibrox was full, however that would not suit their agenda.Where did that come from, is it a copy and paste job? theres no heading or anything, the polis wouldn't send that out surely Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Blue_Flash 390 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It shows noone has a clue, but the papers should NEVER have ran with a story with very little fact. (of course not surprising but sad anyway) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,146 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 3 Different figures for the same game, Daily Bheast use the lowest figure, there's a supprise not.Strathclyde Police need to get their act together, how they can have three different figures for one game is shocking.All the Daily Bheast need to do to validate the figure they had chosen to print was look on the Wille Vass site and it would confirm Ibrox was full, however that would not suit their agenda.If these three are genuine then the person who requested them should write to the Information Commisioner for an explanation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,706 Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Try the recent QP game as I think it's that one they meantI'm positive the article said "for the Glasgow derby back in October" or something to that effect.Going by the 3 pictures above, if the Police have 3 different sets of figures then you have to laugh if they were all roughly in region of 1000 apart from each other then fair enough.Is it the Police who are doctoring the attendances ? Anyway, I think I might file a few requests for the information myself to see what sort of figures are produce. In terms of estimates with my own eyes, the game back in October was near selling out which would make the 46k figure most likely. 35k is an absolute joke, where they got that from I'll never know. 42k is about the capacity that was there v Annan. Does this show that even the Police figures for the games aren't accurate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 guys who cares, if your there your there if you aint you aint, im there and so are the people around me let them crack on as we know that we are there and thats all that matters.The papers are full of shite thats why Jordan is famous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I hope all our fans can see whats going on here with these twats printing blatant lies.Dont buy ot anymore hurt them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger50champ 300 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 YEAH Mate !!!!!! Look at the Score board, its the Dundee itd Crest !!! its an absolute SHOCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dunny .The rebel and Liam have had a fair bit of mileage out of the pictures from that match .Cant remember them ever printing pictures of the Scumdome and it's many empty spaces .At the time I think they had a 3 page spread devoted with around 3/4 pics of our crowd that day .So it seems rather sinister that they choose these pics when taking about Queens park game this season . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,905 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Try the recent QP game as I think it's that one they meantThought their article clearly said games upto end of January, so could only be first QP game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Anyone who has been going to Ibrox this season knows they were lying through their teeth and hopefully them being caught out will convince the last few Bears who still buy their diseased little rag to give it a miss Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What a ridiculous comic the Daily Record is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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