bornabear 6,186 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 If it looks like duck, and sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, and behaves like a duck then its a duck. Its not a swan pretending to be a duck - its a duck. If we look like a 3rd div side, and our manager sounds like a 3rd div manager, and we play like a 3rd div side and the team behaves like a 3rd div side - then its a 3rd div side. That's how poor we've become. That's how weakened we've become. That's where the leadership of the side and the players in the squad have taken us. Driven us down to scrape goalless draws against mediocre 3rd div sides. And losing to them. An inglorious paradox of winning the league (after a series of drastically poor performances) and winning with a side that slumps over the line all the style of a clutch of clueless ducks.To finish the season in a materially worse weakened state of incoherent team performances, wretched defending and now an inability to score any goals from open play is damning, And it risks producing a very low expectation of what to expect next season - and that is almost bound to have an effect on attendances at Ibrox and elsewhere. Can it get worse? I don't rule that out the way things are going right now. Should it be like that even with the squad currently available? I don't believe so. Why is this not being turned around so that there is a real charge of authority and pride in play to win the league? I don't know. But I do know this - it needs strong leadership and much more of that needs to be shown and shown very soon.CORRECT.The trouble with us (in full time training), is that our players chicken out of tackles. When they lose the ball, there's no trying to get it back.We have too many players who "think" they can play football but can't. Naismith and Hemmings will never be footballers as long as they have a hole in their arse. Total lack of vision and effort from many of the others.The object of the game is to win and you can only do this by scoring goals, and if you take Jig and Little's goals out of the "goals for" total,the others don't score many. There has to be change and that change has to be done quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Why do people enjoy magnifying things ally says and jumping all over itI highly doubt anyone enjoys it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 I take this is another example of you posts in support of Ally where you hope he comes good- cannae wait to see ur posts when you turn on himIt's called standing you're ground. The poster or posters you're talking about can see Ally is not going to improve us, the coaches behind him are not going to improve us. People have been saying it more and more especially after seeing the team playing the exact same way every week. And Allys exact same comments everyweek.​It seems because Ally is a legend no one is allowed to criticize him or want him to leave or be sacked. If it was any other manager with no connection to Rangers everyone would want him sacked.The reason why alot of Rangers fans wanted to be in the 3rd division is because everyone thought it would be a chance to change the way we play. Everyone thought it would be a chance to build a team from our youth system and use the players correctly and thats not happened.We're still playing players out of position, we're still punting the high ball up to one striker who has 2 or 3 defenders around him.We're still buying overrated players and giving them more money than what there worth and we're still looking at overated players from the SPL who are coming to the end of there careers.Nothing has changed at Rangers over the last 12 months apart from we're in the 3rd division and we have younger players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's called standing you're ground. The poster or posters you're talking about can see Ally is not going to improve us, the coaches behind him are not going to improve us. People have been saying it more and more especially after seeing the team playing the exact same way every week. And Allys exact same comments everyweek.​It seems because Ally is a legend no one is allowed to criticize him or want him to leave or be sacked. If it was any other manager with no connection to Rangers everyone would want him sacked.Yet when the 'pro ally' stand their ground it's blind faith. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Yet when the 'pro ally' stand their ground it's blind faith.You could call it that. Because how can people see things that different from others? Everyone surely agrees we have got worse in the 2nd half of this season.Allys comments are odd whenever we drop points.A manager is judged on results and McCoist hasn't given us brilliant results.Out of the Ramsden cup, out of the league cup, out of the Scottish cup and for the majority of the 2nd half of the season outplayed by part time players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Thats what happens at a big club and especially when your tactics and you're team are playing shite.lol so you don't discount the enjoy part Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
callumbo87 209 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The issue I take with the pro ally support is their lack of evidence to back up their stance. The doubts raised by results past and present added to his lack of tactical nouse are met by responses of "he saved us, he stood by us, without ally there would be no rangers" or hes had no time to pick a team".The responses may in part be true however when it comes to manager ally mccoist ive not seen one valid argument as to why he is a good manager.Hence blind faith behind the legend rather than the manager starts to show through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 This is an example of me turning....it is torturous watching these performances and the thing is as soon as these line ups are announced you know how it's going to go yet nothing changes! these lineups are about all our available players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's called standing you're ground. The poster or posters you're talking about can see Ally is not going to improve us, the coaches behind him are not going to improve us. People have been saying it more and more especially after seeing the team playing the exact same way every week. And Allys exact same comments everyweek.​It seems because Ally is a legend no one is allowed to criticize him or want him to leave or be sacked. If it was any other manager with no connection to Rangers everyone would want him sacked.The reason why alot of Rangers fans wanted to be in the 3rd division is because everyone thought it would be a chance to change the way we play. Everyone thought it would be a chance to build a team from our youth system and use the players correctly and thats not happened.We're still playing players out of position, we're still punting the high ball up to one striker who has 2 or 3 defenders around him.We're still buying overrated players and giving them more money than what there worth and we're still looking at overated players from the SPL who are coming to the end of there careers.Nothing has changed at Rangers over the last 12 months apart from we're in the 3rd division and we have younger players.well i am standing my ground and saying Ally has earnt more time - the team today was most of out fit players - also I am sure scardev is more than capable ofaking his own defense as he keeps saying he is supportive of ally and years does nothing but post anti ally posts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Why do you always act like a arrogant wanker?I expect him not to talk utter shite, he is the Rangers manager and a draw against anyone in the 3rd division should never bee seen as a good result.The only time i would say a draw might be a decent result is if we were playing the champions league against Man u etc...It's not the 1st time he's came out and said something like this after a draw in the 3rd division either.Also if he thinks they players are "absolutely giving there all" then there is something seriously wrong.If he had came out and said " we were not good enough, we will try to sort it out"Half the site would be lambasting him for only telling us what we want to hear. Don't even try to argue that, because it's already happened this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtf1872 13 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 gogzy a dnt no mate hes a club legend but not a good manager playing 4-5-1 against part timers is shocking then his statement about a clean sheet was horrible proud of the team for delivering the title tho but it was grim all season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Having won the 3rd Division, hopefully the players can now relax and play football. Hopefully Ally will change the team around and play people in their natural positions.Ally could lose his job in the next 5 games if he does not get this team doing a lot lot better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Ally is becoming increasingly divorced from reality Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Ally and the whole backroom staff should be fucking sacked, they are not doing what they're paid to do, it's fucking embarrassing!They are shielding the team from reality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Like Walter, make sure you don't lose before you think about winning the game.Just watched his interview on RTV and he says he could put big Jig up front but he calms the defence down and Cribari and Hegarty feel comfier with Jig beside them.Also that Kal isn't an out and out striker, yep we can't be playing anyone out of position can we now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,782 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 His words don't fill anyone with confidence, no wonder the team perform like we seen today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 950 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I didn't stay up and watch the game last night. Because of the shite that is being served up on the field, especially over the last few weeks.I agree with those who say Ally is not the manager for our future. But at the same time I understand the predicament he has been forced into.Before the season started he lost all but a few of the squad, he had to hurridly sign players, anyone, just to get a team on the park. Mix in half of our youth team to get a squad together.All that aside, the team selection, the tactics employed,. have been woeful.These players are paid very well. Have the very best training and medical facilities at their disposal. Yet the performances they have turned in all season, apart from a few games have been sub-standard even for the 3rd div.I think most of the players especially the senior ones should be embarrased to hold out their hands at the end of the week to take their pay cheques.Not one of them could honestly say they have played to the standard required for a full time professional.We can slate Ally and his team, for their lack lustre display this season, quite rightly.But the real blame lies with the eleven players on the field in blue shirts, who have not played to the standard expected of Rangers players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't mind criticism of Ally as a manager or of his comments but its disappointing when fans disrespect him. To think the years of service he gave us as a player, then under Walter and through what's happened the last year. Ally knows fine well what is expected at our club, he knows its not good enough. I don't agree with sacking him now but am sure he is aware there must be vast improvements for next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Baffled by the 4-4-2 comment, bt i'll stick with what ive said from day one, i'll reserve judgement until midway through next season. I havent been all that impressed with whats been on offer this season, although Mcleod alone was worth the money to watch, bt this has been a truley unique 12months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't mind criticism of Ally as a manager or of his comments but its disappointing when fans disrespect him. To think the years of service he gave us as a player, then under Walter and through what's happened the last year. Ally knows fine well what is expected at our club, he knows its not good enough. I don't agree with sacking him now but am sure he is aware there must be vast improvements for next season.The major concern i have is when you start to read fans saying they may not renew season tickets if Ally stays in charge. I say fans... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinC 1,414 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I'm not happy about the way he was cracking jokes saying oh at least that's 3 consecutive clean sheets. Not the time to fucking joke and giggle about that shite performance. We should've been beaten, there was nowt wrong with their goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't mind criticism of Ally as a manager or of his comments but its disappointing when fans disrespect him. To think the years of service he gave us as a player, then under Walter and through what's happened the last year. Ally knows fine well what is expected at our club, he knows its not good enough. I don't agree with sacking him now but am sure he is aware there must be vast improvements for next season.I just wish he wouldn't keep saying things like "we kept a clean sheet today" as if that means anything in the 3rd division. He's the one who is disrespecting the supporters expecting us to swallow nonsense like that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinC 1,414 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I just wish he wouldn't keep saying things like "we kept a clean sheet today" as if that means anything in the 3rd division. He's the one who is disrespecting the supporters expecting us to swallow nonsense like thatThis. I felt like it was a slap on the face to the supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I don't bother listening to his post match interviews any more, I could probably ad lib what he was about to say before he does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 My living room could do with a lick of paint actually.Well I'm a better painter & decorator than Black. Come to think of it, I'm 100 times a better midfielder than Ian BlackWhich says something considering I'm 65 yrs old Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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