elephants stoned 2,994 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Ally deserves the applause and the credit for alot of hard work over the last two years. Im sure most bears are understanding enough to forget the shite football and just appreciate Super Ally the legend tommorow :superally: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 BluePeter you honestly see good football etc? Fair play if you genuinely think soWish I was this easy to pleaseI can see enough management skills to allow Ally time to manage the club under settled conditions - and also given everything we have been through it would be a disaster to also change our manager now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I can see enough management skills to allow Ally time to manage the club under settled conditions - and also given everything we have been through it would be a disaster to also change our manager now!What management skills? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I can see enough management skills to allow Ally time to manage the club under settled conditions - I can't.and also given everything we have been through it would be a disaster to also change our manager now!No it wouldn't. It would be exactly the lift the whole club needs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I can't.DittoNo it wouldn't. It would be exactly the lift the whole club needs.Ditto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 What management skills? No one who wins any league is devoid of some skill - but folk like you just want to go to the extremes on everything as it suits whatever agenda you have - but he has shown leadership ( a key management skill, the ability to win , a key management skill - and romped the league he was in - a key management skill - he was able to retain and recruit some spl players and get them to play in Sfl 3 - a key management skill - he has had to introduce numerous youth players into the squad while still winning - a key management skill - but as you have an obvious ally oot agenda you will discount any achievement he has made as it suits you - not! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I can see enough management skills to allow Ally time to manage the club under settled conditions - and also given everything we have been through it would be a disaster to also change our manager now!Can you explain what management skills you have seen? May help some of us understand your position better.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Can you explain what management skills you have seen? May help some of us understand your position better.... Strangly I had just posted that type answers so to avoid repeating it - it is the post just before or after this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Strangly I had just posted that type answers so to avoid repeating it - it is the post just before or after thisSee I feel this is progress....I and others may not agree with your assessment of ally's managerial attributes but you have given your opinion and justification and I can fully respect that! I think alot of the problems arise when on the one hand we have posters questioning the loyalty of fans who don't think ally has the skills to be a success and on the other some will judge him no matter what he does (the gangnam style thread was an embarrassment).....everyone is entitled to their opinion and it makes a better case when you express that opinion instead of having a go at someone else's..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 No one who wins any league is devoid of some skill - but folk like you just want to go to the extremes on everything as it suits whatever agenda you have - but he has shown leadership ( a key management skill, the ability to win , a key management skill - and romped the league he was in - a key management skill - he was able to retain and recruit some spl players and get them to play in Sfl 3 - a key management skill - he has had to introduce numerous youth players into the squad while still winning - a key management skill - but as you have an obvious ally oot agenda you will discount any achievement he has made as it suits you - not!1. Leadership- Fair enough, I'll give you that one.2. The ability to win? Nah. He hasn't won enough this season. Far too many draws/defeats3. Recruiting SPL players? They're here for the £££, not because of Ally McCoist!4. Wow! Rangers youth players are better than players at teams like Annan, some achievement there Ally!He's clueless when it comes to style of play, tactics, recruitment and team selection. Not what I want from a Rangers manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 if the anti ally brigade can start thread after thread - often by the same one or two posters it's a bit fking hypocritical to moan about a positive Ally thread !Correct,they generally just love to moan,hope Ally gets a HUGE OVATION tomorrow...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I'm starting to wonder what Ally would need to do in order to get sacked. He falls short on almost everything but that doesn't seem to be enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Fester 186 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Just noticed that, I guess it looks good though for people looking in for there to be some positively titled threads on the first page. Am sick of negativity.Only thing I'm sick of is the utter shite football being dished up..and that's not my fault! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,023 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Maybe ..... Because ally knocked us back TWICE and signed third time of asking ? St Johnston and Sunderland ....... For your so called boyhood hero.. You would only need to ask me once.Imagine rm back in early eighties ? Rangers go for Mccoist for third time ? Get him to fuck ? 30 years on he's a " rangers great " .He's served us well and been rewarded very well for his efforts , but he's now pulling at a lot of people emotional strings .It's time to move on ally and let our great club move on ... No one is bigger than rangers football club .Im glad he did knock us back, if he had signed as an 18yr old and became a success we wouldof sold him a few years later and probably lost all those goals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 See I feel this is progress....I and others may not agree with your assessment of ally's managerial attributes but you have given your opinion and justification and I can fully respect that!I think alot of the problems arise when on the one hand we have posters questioning the loyalty of fans who don't think ally has the skills to be a success and on the other some will judge him no matter what he does (the gangnam style thread was an embarrassment).....everyone is entitled to their opinion and it makes a better case when you express that opinion instead of having a go at someone else's.....Thanks for the lecture - I hope it made you feel better ...... I answer so often about why Ally should be manager it is now my signature! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 1. Leadership- Fair enough, I'll give you that one.2. The ability to win? Nah. He hasn't won enough this season. Far too many draws/defeats3. Recruiting SPL players? They're here for the £££, not because of Ally McCoist!4. Wow! Rangers youth players are better than players at teams like Annan, some achievement there Ally!He's clueless when it comes to style of play, tactics, recruitment and team selection. Not what I want from a Rangers manager.He won what he was asked to win SFL3 - at a canter!You think that Ally had no influence at all on getting players to come - while money talks there is often more than that involved - and part of the job of the manager is to sell the club - I give him credit for being able to do thatand your last point is just stupid - it would NOT have mattered whom was our manager - all they could do was win the league we were in! Job done and onto next year.He is far from clueless - but it will not matter a jot what I say - it will only be as he proves himself - and only time will show that - he will get the time but I suspect he will never get the credit for anything from detractors like you as you ONLY want to see negatives - in fact not only do you see negatives you give him no credit for anything - and most likely never will Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I'm starting to wonder what Ally would need to do in order to get sacked. He falls short on almost everything but that doesn't seem to be enough.I wonder what Ally needs to do to get praise - he suceeds in doing what needs to be done - he succeeds on almost every front but that never seems to be enough! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Correct,they generally just love to moan,hope Ally gets a HUGE OVATION tomorrow......He will get a great ovation tomorrow, why do you think otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 He won what he was asked to win SFL3 - at a canter!You think that Ally had no influence at all on getting players to come - while money talks there is often more than that involved - and part of the job of the manager is to sell the club - I give him credit for being able to do thatand your last point is just stupid - it would NOT have mattered whom was our manager - all they could do was win the league we were in! Job done and onto next year.He is far from clueless - but it will not matter a jot what I say - it will only be as he proves himself - and only time will show that - he will get the time but I suspect he will never get the credit for anything from detractors like you as you ONLY want to see negatives - in fact not only do you see negatives you give him no credit for anything - and most likely never willHe is clueless.Shit tactics? CheckShit brand of football against part timers? CheckShit signings? CheckPlaying players out of position? CheckFailing to learn from his mistakes? CheckAre the players playing for him? No Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 He is clueless.Shit tactics? CheckShit brand of football against part timers? CheckShit signings? CheckPlaying players out of position? CheckFailing to learn from his mistakes? CheckAre the players playing for him? NoYou mean you don't rate him as a manager!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff candy 22 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Im glad he did knock us back, if he had signed as an 18yr old and became a success we wouldof sold him a few years later and probably lost all those goals.Lost him? As in being sold ? Rangers were the biggest spenders and paying the highest wages in Europe during the late eighties and early nineties . Do you not think he was successful as a player ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,023 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Lost him? As in being sold ? Rangers were the biggest spenders and paying the highest wages in Europe during the late eighties and early nineties .Do you not think he was successful as a player ?Of course he was successful, my point being if we had signed him in 81 i reckonhe would of been sold by 84-85 if he was scoring so freely as a 22-23yr old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 He will get a great ovation tomorrow, why do you think otherwise.After reading some of the shite on here about him,you do begin to wonder????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puff candy 22 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Of course he was successful, my point being if we had signed him in 81 i reckonhe would of been sold by 84-85 if he was scoring so freely as a 22-23yr old.Ok take your point , but my original point was , it took us three times to sign him . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 As the manager who has won his league he deserves a round of applause on the final day.Does not change my opinion on his managerial capabilities Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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