Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Seems Shankly disagrees with you in a few areas. Shankly's recipe for success seemed simple on the surface, but was anything but! "When I took a physiotherapy course before I became a manager, I learned some valuable things. Notably about the heart, the intake of food for an athlete and particularly the timing of meals before a match. I put this into use. When I came to Liverpool, I stopped the system of players having a big meal on the night before a game. I adopted the pattern of taking them away on Friday night, timing the journey to reach the hotel about 10 pm, where the players had tea, toast and honey and then straight to bed. On the day of the match, three hours before the kick-off, they could have a steak or chicken or poached eggs. They did not have a cooked breakfast as well. It was simple diet and and the word "simple" came into most of my football thinking in training and playing as well. I ate the same sort of food all my life and I've always been a fitness fanatic. The food players had before a match is to preserve their strength, not build it up. Players find what suits them best by trial and error. If their demand fell within the limits I laid down, that was all right. I also expected them to eat properly when they were not at the club, not to eat stupid things when they were out of control. Most of them did that but I invariably knew when any of them had stepped off the rails in any way. In any case, it usually told on their performance." * "Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple." * "Fire in your belly comes from pride and passion in wearing the red shirt. We don't need to motivate players because each of them is responsible for the performance of the team as a whole. The status of Liverpool's players keeps them motivated." * "Some people may say that we are lazy, but that's fine. What's the point of tearing players to pieces? We never bothered with sand dunes and hills and roads. We trained on grass where football is played." * "Of course a player can have sexual intercourse before a match and play a blinder. But if he did it for six months, he'd be a decrepit old man. It takes the strength from the body." * "Aye I gave the wee woman a good night out. I took her to see Tranmere Rovers reserves. But it wasn't our wedding anniversary, it was her birthday. Can you see me getting married in the football season?" Note: Journalist John Keith later commented on this story: "It was reported that Bill had taken Nessie to a football match for the first time and it was to see Tranmere. I asked him about it and he said "No, John that is utter rubbish, but I did take Nessie to watch Accrington Stanley!" * Shankly never cared for FA coaching badges "When people ask me my credentials for being a manager or a coach I have one answer... Bill Shankly. They're my qualifications, the way I was born. And that's all the qualifications anyone needs in the game I'm in. I didn't think it was necessary to take an FA coaching course. I didn't think it was going to make me any better. If I take a course am I going to be a better man six days later because I've got a piece of paper? That's nonsense. Chamberlain came back from Germany with a piece of paper.. . the worst fucking piece of paper we've ever had!! As manager of Liverpool I got two FA Cup winner's medals, three championships and a Second Division championship, one UEFA Cup, three Charity Shields and six Central League winner's medals... that's 16 in 15 seasons. So I'd like them [FA coaches] to come to my coaching school! I'd have probably failed some of them." DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie2909 21 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Good god I'm fed up listening to Ally's pish! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 The writer apart. If you think that mission statement is worthy of our great club I despair. The part where he talks about always trying to get the ball back.... the part where he says all players should respect the club. Get a grip! The team is full of young men living the dream and playing out of their bot for the club they love. ye. Those boys want rangers to get beat. As I said earlier the leaked document is a fucking failure. The writer had good intents but has no serious vision for our club. Copy and pasting from RM does not make a mission statement. We need people with ideas above that. We need men who can think outside the box and give us the competitive edge. If you think that is a good mission statement then you undervalue our club. Us fans deserve better than that!!!!!!!!!!You said earlier that you could do better.Go for it, impress the shit out of us all oh great one.Remember, original ideas only, nothing that has been seen or done before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I am a Struth man myself. His words are my idea of a mission statement. He spoke of integrity and honour long before our troubles. And no..... he wasn't an electrician as far a I know, he devoted his life to rangers.The electrician is successful enough to devote a million quid to rangersMaybe we shouldnt go pissing off guys like this, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haudthebus 49 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I am a Struth man myself. His words are my idea of a mission statement. He spoke of integrity and honour long before our troubles. And no..... he wasn't an electrician as far a I know, he devoted his life to rangers.Struth was a stonemason and a professional runner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faircity 186 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I have thought about it.Lots.Someone who'd seen it all would have known how to make what we've got look better....Keep thinking mate.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 No you're assuming he's copied from RM, you've just been quoted as saying you agree with most of it but now it's a failure. Which is it? This is stuff wee Dick tried to implement as well, fining players for being late for the team bus, making the first team players watch the young boys train. Respect for the club and everything around it is the way it should be. I agree with most of it but it isn't worthy of a mission statement. Yet again... IT LACKS ORIGINALITY! Any one of us on here could have written that. Now that I have answered that would you care to answer my earlier questions. Just one. Impress me. Impress us all. Go on..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I agree with most of it but it isn't worthy of a mission statement. Yet again... IT LACKS ORIGINALITY! Any one of us on here could have written that. Now that I have answered that would you care to answer my earlier questions. Just one. Impress me. Impress us all. Go on.....You're tying yourself in knots Houdini couldn't get out of.Admin should change your name to Vicky Pollard.Do you agree with the mission statement?Well yer, but no, but yer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Struth was a stonemason and a professional runner. And a visionary manager. Insightful, forward thinking and incisive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 You're tying yourself in knots Houdini couldn't get out out. Admin should change your name to Vicky Pollard. Do you agree with the mission statement? Well yer, but no, but yer. A mission statement isn't a flashpoint/opinion/response it is a forward looking strategy. I agree with parts of the document, but it is in no way worthy of being a Rangers mission statement. Not even close!!!.I'm off to bed. PM me with any with a valid response to any of the questions I have asked on this thread. I challenge you. Night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 ...Keep thinking mate..I'll try, but I reckon I've done the hard yards!Let's enjoy the break & hopefully pick up a wee bit higher than where we left off! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andypendek Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 D&D - you are slating the document for lacking originality.All right, fair enough, it isn't original.But of all the non-original good points in it, how many do we appear to be actually doing at the moment?We don't have to re-invent the football wheel, but it would be good idea to come into the 21st century. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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