caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 28 years ago today, 39 Juventus fans perished.The normally vocal people of Liverpool are tellingly quiet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 They fight for the victims, unless its another tragedy, that they caused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I'd been to the Heysel for a Scotland/Belgium game before the tragedy.Was an okay wee ground with excellent transport link on shuttles to the ground. Did not see any problems, the Belgians and Belgian people were great, even though we lost, there was no trouble.As I watched the run-up the Liverpool game the cameras focused on the Liverpool fans taunting and bombarding the Juventus fans who were unlucky enough to have got put in the wrong end. Then the bastards surged towards them....tragic, but obvious who caused it.The Belgian police and the ground got most the blame. It was Liverpool fans fault but every team in England got a ban. To put my views in perspective I will say the most awful and tragic thing In have seen at a football match were those poor Hillsborough victims. Mostly the fault of the authorities for putting the fences in, in my opinion, and the police got the crowd control totally wrong (no excuse for those decisions they made). No fault on the fans there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 They fight for the victims, unless its another tragedy, that they caused.Ouch! Telling it like it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 They fight for the victims, unless its another tragedy, that they caused.I presume you were there? How did you see things unfold? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I presume you were there? How did you see things unfold? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Educator 1,572 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Things are never quite as black and white as they appear. I was invited round to visit friends that night, a meal and then watch the game. When we turned on the TV we could hardly believe our eyes. One thing has always stuck in my mind, there was a brief shot as the camera scanned the crowd of Italian fans of one appearing to hold a hand gun. I've never seen that clip repeated anywhere since, but there were four of us watching and we all agreed that was what we saw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Things are never quite as black and white as they appear. I was invited round to visit friends that night, a meal and then watch the game. When we turned on the TV we could hardly believe our eyes. One thing has always stuck in my mind, there was a brief shot as the camera scanned the crowd of Italian fans of one appearing to hold a hand gun. I've never seen that clip repeated anywhere since, but there were four of us watching and we all agreed that was what we saw.That was at the other end of the ground. It was identified as most probably being a starter's pistol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 I presume you were there? How did you see things unfold?And there is the typical response, and the reason the thread was made.Always the victim, it's never our fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,494 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Surely the grief merchants will be pressuring the government for a full enquiry into the disaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongolikecandy 418 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Rome 84 was the background of this with many Liverpool fans stabbed,however what happened in Heysel was appalling . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,958 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Rome 84 was the background of this with many Liverpool fans stabbed,however what happened in Heysel was appalling .And poor crowd segregation. Were tickets for that part of the ground not sold to supporters of both clubs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Surely the grief merchants will be pressuring the government for a full enquiry into the disasterThere was wasn't there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Edit - misread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 So how does a video of Utd Scum chanting obscenities equate to your visit to Heysel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 And poor crowd segregation. Were tickets for that part of the ground not sold to supporters of both clubs?And poor crowd segregation. Were tickets for that part of the ground not sold to supporters of both clubs?Tickets for one section of each end were on sale to supporters of either club or neutrals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 So how does a video of Utd Scum chanting obscenities equate to your visit to Heysel?It doesn't. I just enjoy watching it and thought I'd share. Fuck the murderers though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Rome 84 was the background of this with many Liverpool fans stabbed,however what happened in Heysel was appalling .What happened at Heysel was a complete accident, albeit caused by things which were just part of the scene at that time, and no Liverpool fans went there with the thought of killing those Juventus supporters.It is the contrast between how the chip on the shoulder mob have viewed Heysel and Hillsborough in the subsequent years which sticks in the craw of many. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopter 310 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Terrible tragedy - on the bright side, as an indirect consequence we got to sign Colin West. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongolikecandy 418 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 What happened at Heysel was a complete accident, albeit caused by things which were just part of the scene at that time, and no Liverpool fans went there with the thought of killing those Juventus supporters.It is the contrast between how the chip on the shoulder mob have viewed Heysel and Hillsborough in the subsequent years which sticks in the craw of many.It's not called selfpity city for nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 It doesn't. I just enjoy watching it and thought I'd share. Fuck the murderers though!More action from the same game for you to enjoy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 More action from the same game for you to enjoy! That's your answer ? Showing me a clip of ManYoo getting beat ? I fucking HATE Man United. Nae luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 A disaster at that stadium was waiting to happen, given the reports at the time. That's not to excuse the scousers, they're to blame as much as anyone in this, maybe more so. As someone said, the contrast in attitudes from them over this and Hillsborough is startling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 That's your answer ? Showing me a clip of ManYoo getting beat ? I fucking HATE Man United. Nae luck.You hate Man U but enjoy watching the pitiful renditions of their so called fans!! Sounds like a split personality to me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 You hate Man U but enjoy watching the pitiful renditions of their so called fans!When it's aimed at the murdering scousers ? Fucking absolutely. If there was a video of Rangers fans singing it I would've posted it but there isn't so I couldnt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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