The Godfather 70,781 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Aw ffs Everytime I click in here it's something else! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinC 1,414 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Aw ffs Everytime I click in here it's something else!I know mate. Im going back to OT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Couldn't he just claim it was his missus/brother/mate using his account if its from mobile betting?Wasn't that Lennon's defence when he acted the jackass on twitter? Pretty difficult to prove I would have thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 We don't yet know IF he (Black) himself has done this. Innocent til proven guilty, it's a basic right in this country. Leave the supposition to the media.Expect better from you kev.Nope that's a fair point Al.....I'm certainly not pre-empting any guilt on blacks part. I did however poorly word my response.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Fucking hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Can't defend him at all. Aye he's played well this season in the first few games, but his behavior last season was a disgrace. I never wanted him anywhere near my club in the first place. I think we will do a Sandaza on him if he turns out guilty.What did he do last year that was a disgrace? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Nope that's a fair point Al.....I'm certainly not pre-empting any guilt on blacks part. I did however poorly word my response....Whatever the outcome, really is the last thing we need right now.The soap opera continues... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,781 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I know it's England but did a EPL player not get a fine for something similar not long ago? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 What did he do last year that was a disgrace?PerformancesAttitudeDisciplinary record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,781 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 PerformancesAttitudeDisciplinary record.Don't forget THAT haircut. Fools Gold and Phil 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzalivesforever 1,985 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 This is the work of some fenian at Paddy Power no doubt. Britannia Bear and the fixer 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 surely if he was betting against his team while he himself was playing like shite week in week out and and is still betting against his team this season while playing better 75% and scoring 3 in 4 games, that makes no sense what so ever, hell he always played out his skin when facing us.somethings weird about this story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wullyRFC 5,230 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 PerformancesAttitudeDisciplinary record.Performances wern't a disgrace he just wasn't influential enough.Don't know about his attitude he looked commited enough to me.He took a kicking every game he played and got sent of once (or twice?)People's judgements are so clouded because of their hate for the man it's unreal norgerpd, toolongawake and Britannia Bear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 PerformancesAttitudeDisciplinary record.aye he must have bet how many times he was going to get booted up and down the park last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople1 3,897 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Betting amongst players is rife, has been for years No one else concerned about the timing of this allegation, or who the alleged offender plays for? Open your eyes people. Players are on twitter etc every weekend talking about bets and posting pictures of coupons, yet black is to be made an example of!?Not defending him, but all players involved should be investigated. Not just the ones in blue jerseys Andy Little's Boots 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The issue that's getting ignored from here is that someone at Ladbrokes is leaking details of his bets to outside organisations. That alone is a breach of confidentiality and could be taken to court. The SFA want to be very careful as well, as if they've used illegitimately gained info, they could be getting their baws felt too.The grasser can claim whistleblower rights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Performances wern't a disgrace he just wasn't influential enough.Don't know about his attitude he looked commited enough to me.He took a kicking every game he played and got sent of once (or twice?)People's judgements are so clouded because of their hate for the man it's unrealHe was very poor most games. I thought he lacked effort. He got into verbal slanging matches with fans who criticised him. He rarely beat the first man with corners. His shooting was terrible. And most disappointing for me, he didn't stick up for himself when getting kicked up and down the park.Been much better this season though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Performances wern't a disgrace he just wasn't influential enough.Don't know about his attitude he looked commited enough to me.He took a kicking every game he played and got sent of once (or twice?)People's judgements are so clouded because of their hate for the man it's unrealIts all about opinions. I don't hate him at all. I just didn't rate him last season. He didn't look to be trying last season to me. This season he's been excellent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 aye he must have bet how many times he was going to get booted up and down the park last season.Aw, poor love. My heart bleeds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 91 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He bet that we would win against Arbroath in a match he scored. His betting against was while at caley. Nothing like telling half truths Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianb1547 3,767 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 My response isn't particularly about Black...as has been said...innocent til proven guilty.......its about the rationale for the rule to exist in the first place...and it exists with every football governing body.An official/player etc cannot bet on ANY football match. (my addition....ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD) Players move clubs, have friends who move clubs, have agents with clients at other clubs etc etc etc...so to prevent any of the perceptions that 'he did that because.....or he did that so that.....the rule is in being.Every club official knows this rule exists. If anyone is guilty...then they take what is coming to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinC 1,414 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Performances wern't a disgrace he just wasn't influential enough.Don't know about his attitude he looked commited enough to me.He took a kicking every game he played and got sent of once (or twice?)People's judgements are so clouded because of their hate for the man it's unrealHe was piss poor 90% of the time last season. Didn't dictate the play what so ever, looked as if he couldn't be arsed. I don't think he grasped just how big a club we are, and the kind of commitment and desire we want when a player puts on that shirt. He also fannied about constantly at set pieces, his free kicks were embarrassing. His red card against Dundee United, the way he walked off joking and laughing, fannying about at the corner flag. And his constant moaning and greeting like a wee lassie about how he was getting kicked about like an empty fag packet. What did he expect ffs, he was a dirty wee bastard when he played for hearts, injured countless players, done Jelavic and injured him for 3 months, could have had an impact on our season that year. He didn't justify his wages either, and that hair doo as godfather said. So aye, I'd get him to fuck if he's guilty. Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 My reading is that the games involving his own team, he was NOT playing in them, otherwise he would potentially be up on the second charge.It should also be made clear again, that this doesnt mean he bet against us last season as the betting is over 7 years. Phil 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee9 3,967 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 One thing after another Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 91 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 My reading is that the games involving his own team, he was NOT playing in them, otherwise he would potentially be up on the second charge.It should also be made clear again, that this doesnt mean he bet against us last season as the betting is over 7 years.He played 90 mins against motherwell for ICT and they lost.They two others were matches he played in and won. Including our 4-0 romp of Arbroath which he scored in. Its thw ICT one from 2006 that will be a stickler for him.The others are bad form but not betting against Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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