BarneyRabble 126 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Did it actually exist? If so did anyone actually see it? Would it not have been more beneficial for it to be released to the public? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 What letter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 A MH and Martin Bain production Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandblue 366 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Never existed IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 all the fan reps only saw the back of it as bain waved it abouti have posted all these threads beforethe letterthe vicast coyalas this board doesnt appear to let you see your previous threads and posts, past a certain date... either that or i am too luddite to find em Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Craig Whyte sold it to bad social worker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneyRabble 126 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 all the fan reps only saw the back of it as bain waved it abouti have posted all these threads beforethe letterthe vicast coyalas this board doesnt appear to let you see your previous threads and posts, past a certain date... either that or i am too luddite to find emHow can seeing the back of any letter be seen as being proof? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 How can seeing the back of any letter be seen as being proof?You see that is why we are not fan reps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneyRabble 126 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Some of these " fans reps " have websites and fanzines. Surely the best way to get a message out that people would believe is to have said letter, the front that is, printed onto as many websites and fanzines as possible. Along with in the match programme AND in the press. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Some of these " fans reps " have websites and fanzines. Surely the best way to get a message out that people would believe is to have said letter, the front that is, printed onto as many websites and fanzines as possible. Along with in the match programme AND in the press.a certain website and infrequently published fanzine is nothing more than a steam vent for RFCit let the fans moan without bringing heat of bain, minty et al.... round about the same time a fan on the board spot appearedjust a coincidence mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoastbear 122 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 The letter never existed imo. I asked the club for sight of it several times without reply. Same with UEFA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneyRabble 126 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 a certain website and infrequently published fanzine is nothing more than a steam vent for RFCit let the fans moan without bringing heat of bain, minty et al.... round about the same time a fan on the board spot appearedjust a coincidence mindThis certain website and infrequent fanzine that you speak of, does the owner of said places not have a " voice " among the Rangers support?Co incidences in life can be dangerous.I'd have thought there would have been an outcry after the QP away game at xmas time when TBB was aired loud and proud?Letter produced to back up a ban? Fines? points deducted?There is a wee part of me which feels that the ordinary fan has been a tad misled here, or am i being cynical? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Wouldnt matter imo, the SFA would fine us anyway whether banned or Not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneyRabble 126 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Wouldnt matter imo, the SFA would fine us anyway whether banned or Not.On what grounds? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Without wanting to incite rants and tirades.... Why would it not exist, and why would the club have faked it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Without wanting to incite rants and tirades.... Why would it not exist, and why would the club have faked it?because they didnt give a feck, had, for years, failed to protect either club or supporter and had a spinless bunch sitting in exec positions and on the boardapart from the above, no reason at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Without wanting to incite rants and tirades.... Why would it not exist, and why would the club have faked it?dunno, and dunno if they did or not, but sometimes it's easier to just bullshit some things for an easier life. I've done stuff like that in my time. You probably have too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This certain website and infrequent fanzine that you speak of, does the owner of said places not have a " voice " among the Rangers support?Co incidences in life can be dangerous.I'd have thought there would have been an outcry after the QP away game at xmas time when TBB was aired loud and proud?Letter produced to back up a ban? Fines? points deducted?There is a wee part of me which feels that the ordinary fan has been a tad misled here, or am i being cynical?Don't be stupid - everybody knows its only in the last 12 months the board has misled the fans Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 It occurred to me also that we were never challenged over the QP game, other than a quick rant in the rhags.I'm no lawyer, but that to me sets a legal precedent, and a good defense if the club is charged for us singing it at Ibrox.I think it would be worth challenging. So let's say we all spontaneously burst into TBB through sheer joy and exultation at our beloved team's expression of the beautiful game. (stranger things have happened )And let's say they do actually take umbrage and try to fine/censure us. (I'm not convinced they will, but let's say they do)So then let's say we challenge it. Any money left in that Fighting fund? If not - whipround and lawyer. Anybody got the email for the court of human rights?"Hello Court of Human Rights - this is a song that multiple other UK clubs sing (youtube and other evidence attached), yet only we are being told we can't sing it. Discrimination surely?"We might win, we might lose. but at least we will have fought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneyRabble 126 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Without wanting to incite rants and tirades.... Why would it not exist, and why would the club have faked it?On the other hand , IF it did exist , why have you or I not seen it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 On what grounds?Its the SFA we are talking about here................Guilty as charged without a hearing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This letter appeared at a crucial time for the RST as they finally looked to be getting their seat at the board. Dingwall then claimed to have seen the letter and the rest is history.Co-incidence?And if the letter did exist what was to stop Rangers FC showing all fans reps if the the threat from UEFA was as severe as they claimed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartansmokie 36 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 It occurred to me also that we were never challenged over the QP game, other than a quick rant in the rhags.I'm no lawyer, but that to me sets a legal precedent, and a good defense if the club is charged for us singing it at Ibrox.I think it would be worth challenging. So let's say we all spontaneously burst into TBB through sheer joy and exultation at our beloved team's expression of the beautiful game. (stranger things have happened )And let's say they do actually take umbrage and try to fine/censure us. (I'm not convinced they will, but let's say they do)So then let's say we challenge it. Any money left in that Fighting fund? If not - whipround and lawyer. Anybody got the email for the court of human rights?"Hello Court of Human Rights - this is a song that multiple other UK clubs sing (youtube and other evidence attached), yet only we are being told we can't sing it. Discrimination surely?"We might win, we might lose. but at least we will have fought.Well said Govan. It seems the Rhags have a rant at us and it is accepted as gospel that we cant do this and we cant do that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 because they didnt give a feck, had, for years, failed to protect either club or supporter and had a spinless bunch sitting in exec positions and on the boardapart from the above, no reason at allJust don't see a reason to make it up, that's all. If it wouldn't see us in trouble, why do anything? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoastbear 122 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This letter appeared at a crucial time for the RST as they finally looked to be getting their seat at the board. Dingwall then claimed to have seen the letter and the rest is history.Co-incidence?And if the letter did exist what was to stop Rangers FC showing all fans reps if the the threat from UEFA was as severe as they claimed?You would think it would be in the Club's best interest to make the alleged letter public. A fuckin carve up mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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