gogzy 31,195 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 great work mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mountaineer 452 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Dear Mr Fitzpatrick,Thank you for your letter of 11.09.2013, which enclosed a copy of a response you have received from David Gauke MP regarding the Rangers Tax Case. Whilst I am extremely disappointed with the content of that letter, I am however glad that you personally have now experienced the type of evasion and prevarication which gave rise to me contacting you in the first place, and which myself and many thousands of Rangers supporters, many shareholders with a vested financial interest, have also experienced.Before I proceed further however, I must take this opportunity to thank you personally for your efforts in this matter. Whilst Mr Gauke's response leaves a lot to be desired at least you managed to elucidate a response. I honestly do wonder however, if Mr Gauke and HMRC think we in Scotland "zip up at the back of the heid" for want of a better expression. ( I'm sorely tempted to send Mr Gauke my curriculum vitae and direct him to the part under training which states "Advanced Detective Training Scottish Police College"Perhaps dealing with Mr Gauke's response is the most fruitful way to proceed :-2nd Paragraph"As I'm sure you will understand I am unable to comment on the tax affairs of individual companies as doing so would be a breach of taxpayer confidentiality"We most certainly do understand - in fact it's breaches of such confidentiality which give rise to our concerns and questions, which I note Mr Gauke, like HMRC before him, has chosen to avoid answering.Mr Fitzpatrick if you look at the previous correspondence I sent you, you will note that my questions centred around the conduct of HMRC and Westminster MP's with responsibility thereto, following the breaches of confidentiality in the Rangers Tax Case. The questions I have been asking HMRC and those Ministers are summarised as follows :-1. When the leaks in the Rangers Tax Case entered the public domain did HMRC conduct an internal audit or investigation to determine the source of these leaks ?2. What was the conclusion of such investigation ?3. Did HMRC cross reference the content of such leaks in the catalogue of evidence they had seized for the Rangers Tax Case to determine if there was a match ?4. Are there protocols and procedures within HMRC for breaches of confidentiality and if so were they adhered to in the Rangers Tax Case ? Furthermore did Westminster MP's with ministerial responsibility for HMRC, personally check that the protocols and investigations had been carried out by HMRC when the the Rangers Tax Case Leaks appeared in the public domain ?5. Did HMRC contact the Police to report these apparent breaches of confidentiality which constituted a grave crime in Scotland ? If not why not ?3rd Paragraph"I understand a case management hearing before the Upper Tax tribunal was set for 19 July 2013 after which HMRC expects to learn more about when the appeal is likely to be heard"This deals with the ongoing legal process and has no bearing whatsover on the questions I have asked, or HMRC's failure to respond.4th Paragraph"As HMRC has previously advised it cannot comment on the affairs of any business or individual due to it's legal obligations of confidentiality"More or less a repeat of the 2nd Paragraph. However it’s interesting that the phrase "legal obligations" is mentioned. The jist of my enquiries as can be seen from the questions asked are not to probe confidential information relative to the Rangers Tax Case but to determine if the investigatory body has fulfilled its legal obligations in view of a breach of that confidentiality.5th Paragraph"However I can confirm that these matters are being investigated by Police Service of Scotland in conjunction with HMRC and the PF West of Scotland"I must admit this paragraph made me laugh. They are only subject to such criminal investigation because Sir David Murray and myself lodged criminal complaints in respect of these leaks post Tax Tribunal Verdict. The real question is why didn't HMRC initiate such a complaint sooner ?It is quite clear that HMRC, and given the content of Mr Gauke's letter I suspect a number of MP's are hiding behind this "breach of confidentiality" to avoid answering very awkward questions. It is a master class in prevarication and evasion.It is blatantly apparent from the way I have presented the questions that they are an examination of the conduct of the Investigatory Body (HMRC) in the Rangers Tax Case following confidential information being leaked to a number of outlets, not any desire to seek information which would obviously be confidential concerning Rangers Tax Case.Finally I would refer to Section 98 of Lord Nimmo Smith's report into the SPL Investigation into Rangers where he concludes :-[98] Meanwhile, BBC Scotland came, by unknown means, into possession of what they described as “dozens of secret emails, letters and documents”, which we understand were the productions before the Tax Tribunal. These formed the basis of a programme entitled “Rangers – The Men Who Sold the Jerseys”, which was broadcast on 23 May 2012. BBC Scotland also published copious material on its website. The published material included a table containing the names of Rangers players, coaches and staff who were beneficiaries of the MGMRT, and how much they received through that trust. It also listed the names of people where the BBC had seen evidence that they received side-letters. This event appears to have been the trigger for more activity in response to the SPL’s request.Mr Fitzpatrick we have a situation here now where a one of the most legal and respected legal brains in Scotland is alluding to the very evidence in the Rangers Tax Case being stolen and passed to BBC Scotland and the Investigatory Body (HMRC) responsible for the seizing and care of such productions refuse to comment.I'm sure you would agree this situation is totally unacceptable. In fact there is a sinister element of deliberate avoidance emerging. In no way does it breach confidentiality to examine the conduct, and ask questions of an investigatory agency in what has been the highest profile tax case ever in Scotland, and where the evidence has been appropriated and passed on allowing considerable breaches of confidentiality.As you can perhaps determine from the tone and content of this letter I feel the response from Mr Gauke to both you and I is totally unsatisfactory. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on proceeding with this.Do you think further correspondence would be fruitful or do you think the concerns raised in this letter and our collective experiences are worthy of further debate within Holyrood itself ?I look forward to hearing from you.Yours Sincerely fantastic d'art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calio 688 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Keep up the good fight mate, I wish we had more like you fighting our corner.All the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,356 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Great work as always D'Art.Hopefully after reading this anyone on here who hasn't signed the petition to get parliament to debate the hmrc leaks will do so now.The link is pinned at the top of bears den and will only take a couple of minutes to fill in, come on lets get these cunts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Respect due,D'art. Very well put letter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oso 122 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Thank You D'art. This is the sort of work we need to see. Reasoned argument pursuing the truth, backed by evidence and not unfounded speculation, hypothesis and pure delusion. Keep this up and we, the people, would ask that you be officially honoured for services to football! D'artagnan MBE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 12,970 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You are the best D,art, if anyone deserves to win it is yourself, you give all us Rangers people a reason for hope with your tenacity and your loyalty. Keep on keeping on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binsy08 362 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Once again D'art, superb, fight the good fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabs 13 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yer some man for one man.Fantastic D'art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIE8CH 296 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 keep at them dart till you get to the bottom of this cover up. your doing a great job for all rangers supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodvale1690 43 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 remarkable work, keep at that bone d'art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What gets me is how its left to one fan to chase this up.The club appear to be doing nothing.The RST appear to be doing nothing.The Assembly and Association appear to be doing nothing.Yet again its down to a few individuals to show the kind of tenacity we would like to see from those with more influence and clout.Well done D'Art. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,281 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Excellent stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allcinaye 336 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 D'Art, who is Mr Fitzpatrick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 What gets me is how its left to one fan to chase this up.The club appear to be doing nothing.The RST appear to be doing nothing.The Assembly and Association appear to be doing nothing.Yet again its down to a few individuals to show the kind of tenacity we would like to see from those with more influence and clout.Well done D'Art.They are too busy squabbling and fighting to get a seat at the Table whilst loyal Fans like Dart fight the good fight.Keep it up Dart you'll get there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Great work D'Art I'm ashamed to say I don't have your tenacity I got the same brush off from Gauke and emailed him but didn't receive a reply, that was some months ago. You keep fighting and embody the No Surrender spirit in its entirety Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allcinaye 336 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Great work D'Art I'm ashamed to say I don't have your tenacity I got the same brush off from Gauke and emailed him but didn't receive a reply, that was some months ago. You keep fighting and embody the No Surrender spirit in its entirety Maybe he’s still counting the profit he made on the re- sale of the publicly funded flat purchase he made in London. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Maybe he’s still counting the profit he made on the re- sale of the publicly funded flat purchase he made in London.Probably he's a MP they are as bad if not worse than bankers when it comes to snouts in the trough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Top notch D'Art. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,711 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Wonderful work, you show us how it should be done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAC 2,234 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Much appreciated for the hard work D'Art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Azure 1,414 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I have also never had an acknowledgement nor a reply to my email to Mr Gauke MP. I'm embarrassed to say that I have not followed up on this with the tenacity and doggedness shown by your good self D'art. If only more of us on here and the wider Rangers support would employ the same determination, we might have had some much needed, in depth investigation to find out where and who was perpetrating these illegal leaks. Well done sir, keep up the good work. Nolite spurios te contundere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Respect to you D'Art! Thank you for all you do Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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