JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Yes another thread on this nonsense.For all in favour of the sack the board action, I put this questions to you.Who do you suggest we replace the already appointed board members with?What qualities will your list of people bring to the table, and please provide facts to back up your claim.Are they interested in joining our board?The reason for starting a new thread on this: I've asked at least 10 supporters of the sack the board these simple questions and still remain unanswered. Surely making such chants and demands for the board to be removed you have given ample thought into their replacements.Before some smart arse comes in and says "so we just accept what we've got because we don't have names" that's not what I'm saying at all, I'm simply curious to see if enough thought has went into these "protests".I eagerly await your published list of replacements.Admin lock this if you must, but these questions still need answered instead of being deflected away from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mor3los_1 3,672 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Keep your sensible and rational questions away from this debate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Keep your sensible and rational questions away from this debate. I'm being told to support this movement, but none can provide me answers to my questions.Seems a little suspicious as tho who is really behind it, and what their motives really are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron1873 538 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think the protest were premature.They should of waited until the accounts to come out which I donthink will be pretty tbh.It's hard to come up with facts but for me the qualities would be able business men with the club at heart. However, most importantly a transparent and open board.I'm not a fan of this board however I will wait until the accounts come out. I also think Murray and mcoll would be good for the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm being told to support this movement, but none can provide me answers to my questions.Seems a little suspicious as tho who is really behind it, and what their motives really are.Why dont you ask the main group who advocate this? easily found on Facebook or Twitter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think the protest were premature.They should of waited until the accounts to come out which I donthink will be pretty tbh.It's hard to come up with facts but for me the qualities would be able business men with the club at heart. However, most importantly a transparent and open board.I'm not a fan of this board however I will wait until the accounts come out. I also think Murray and mcoll would be good for the clubMurray is only out to cause unrest and hysteria between fans to unsettle the board and get investors doubting them. I've put more money into Rangers than him. I refuse to accept he will be an asset to our board, regardless of the facts I am shown.The accounts will be key to whether or not these protests have substance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Why dont you ask the main group who advocate this? easily found on Facebook or Twitter.My questions to them are unanswered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 My questions to them are unanswered.Eh! ok, i will ask them for you..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiadreamin52 339 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 You should receive your answer this week from Jim McColl probably well before Mather publish his long awaited accounts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Eh! ok, i will ask them for you.....You do that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Eh! ok, i will ask them for you.....They don't appear willing to answer the questions asked. The OP isn't the only one who has asked the same of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron1873 538 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Murray is only out to cause unrest and hysteria between fans to unsettle the board and get investors doubting them. I've put more money into Rangers than him. I refuse to accept he will be an asset to our board, regardless of the facts I am shown.The accounts will be key to whether or not these protests have substance.I don't disagree that murrray is trying to win favor with fans and unsettle fans about the board but the question should be is there merit behind his claims. I think what he has came out and said is right and personally think the accounts will prove him so.The way he is acting now doesn't make me think he can't run the club properly, the way I see it he is using is business experience and basically it's all politics.Like we have both agreed the accounts will make or break the board or Murray Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 They don't appear willing to answer the questions asked. The OP isn't the only one who has asked the same of them.As I said, not even the group responsible can answer. Simply just deflect away from the subject. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Well im going to get an answer, he has just PM me, give 5 mins Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 I don't disagree that murrray is trying to win favor with fans and unsettle fans about the board but the question should be is there merit behind his claims. I think what he has came out and said is right and personally think the accounts will prove him so.The way he is acting now doesn't make me think he can't run the club properly, the way I see it he is using is business experience and basically it's all politics.Like we have both agreed the accounts will make or break the board or MurrayHis proposal when part of TBK showed he can't run our club.He wanted to pay people money we didn't owe, then loan it back for working capital.Makes no sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro1976 162 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Mccoll already stated he has no intention of putting more money into rangers. So does he need to be involved in such a mess? I doubt it. If people recall, it was dingwalls crew who drove bill miller and john ng away. Ffs, they were all singing greens praises less than a year ago, now they jump on another bandwagon. Like the op says, no one has come up with viable options. Dingwall wants a seat on that board and i am sure mini has promised him a role as a fans ambassador. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The hostiles are in a panic their mole must have told them the accounts are better than ever expected despite their worst efforts to destabalise all and everything, if he/she hasn't been able to tell them they are in for a bigger dollop of egg wiping than anyone could envisage.Auditors don't give a clean report where the audit shows it shouldn't, they also have a reputation to protect.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,794 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Why dont you ask the main group who advocate this? easily found on Facebook or Twitter.would probably get a ban or block Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Well im going to get an answer, he has just PM me, give 5 minsTell ten to join RM and answer our questions directly.If their that confident about their proposals this won't be a problem, or is their something they are hiding?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I think the board are very lucky that the only alternative on the scene is the hapless mini murray because alot lof people like me who are not particularly happy with the board but certainly dont want mini anywhere near us, would be making alot more noise against the board were there credible alternatives out there putting themselves forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Tell ten to join RM and answer our questions directly.If their that confident about their proposals this won't be a problem, or is their something they are hiding??They have tried twice to join RM and awaiting acceptance.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The hostiles are in a panic their mole must have told them the accounts are better than ever expected despite their worst efforts to destabalise all and everything, if he/she hasn't been able to tell them they are in for a bigger dollop of egg wiping than anyone could envisage.Auditors don't give a clean report where the audit shows it shouldn't, they also have a reputation to protect.. I am sure everyone will be delighted if the accounts are good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The hostiles are in a panic their mole must have told them the accounts are better than ever expected despite their worst efforts to destabalise all and everything, if he/she hasn't been able to tell them they are in for a bigger dollop of egg wiping than anyone could envisage.Auditors don't give a clean report where the audit shows it shouldn't, they also have a reputation to protect.. For once i agree here, cant understand why the Board dont state this!As Audited accounts means no Insolvency looking for next 12 months? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 cut and pasted from another thread couldn't be arsed writing it again.Not part of any group or aware of their motives, personally i don't really like any of the regimes put forward so far, though i didn't take part in the protest as i had just read the bit about the apr and wanted to hear more first.The current board i would remove because they are just not moving in the right direction,also with so many wanting there removal it would be more detrimental to the club to keep them.I think all of us wanted to see a percentage of the ipo and ST money to be used to develop our scouting worldwide and our youth development with a mind to finding and encouraging young talent at rangers which we could sell on at a later date.- No movement or clear plan regarding hiring our own scouts ( i think at this moment we have none).- No strategy for youth development made public or any sign the club intends to do anything else but buy in talent. (evidence is we have no scouts so how do we find young talent, all our signings so far have came through x players or agents)-No backbone. we should have received damages from several places now but have refused to use the courts to deal with those who lie to damage our club.We should have also taken the sfa spl to the footballing courts. To not demand the sack for bbc staff after the montage of mccoist commiting suicide and the various articles etc is not strong enough.-As a member of the board i would have expected any with Rangers as their main agenda to have stepped forward and put pressure on Stockbridge and any others to remove their 100% bonuses as well as ensuring wages were in line with roles and experience. I would not expect them to wait till the fans found out then make promises to sort this out which they have once again not done.This should have been done off their own backs and it be a given that they can be trusted to set their own wages.-Agreeing and taking too long to cut the management wage bill, especially when we all know Ally and co always work with the clubs best interest at heart.-They rightly or wrongly cause division amongst the fans to a degree that is now effecting the experience of visiting Ibrox on match day, are any of them individually so good at their jobs or putting in enough money to merit this? the easiest way to stop this would be the removal of the board and qualified replacements interviewed and hired on merit or cold hard cash.-Refusing to be open and public about any deals that shareholders or board members are agreeing with the club were the deal could be seen as deceiptful. The lack of information on loans or deals amongst shareholder owned companies leaves to much space for greed to be the main motivation instead of whats the best deal for Rangers.If these deals are in the best interest of the club then there is no need for keeping them quiet.(100% bonuses,5% deals, loans etc)-£22m gone with nothing new ventured other than the opening of two shops. Expected the cash to be used to open new revenue streams not just the continuation of the old.-Not informing the fans what is the business plan/strategy for edmiston house and the carpark. Who owns these and any future revenue they generate. would expect a clear and concise business plan in place before we spent over £2m. Since these will most likely be used to generate income from fans their input should have been sought and encouraged.-No major shareholder has handed over cash without expecting almost immediate returns. I understand how business works but i don't see how an institution like ours can be ran solely as a business for profit. I want people who are willing to spend some money to see rangers grow and reach the stature we the fans deserve, without the need of a get rich quick scheme.I want people who understand the difference between a business and an institution like Rangers.( i see no evidence of this from anyone on the board)-I want the best people for each role at the club to be approached and enticed to the club. they must have vast experience in their field which must be pertinent to our future plans and ambitions. This should be coupled with a drive to find those willing to buy a place on our board for the privilage and honour of being at the driving seat of the biggest club in the world.I would also like a limited number of spaces for those who are looking to make a profit as this will give the board the balance it needs, i just don't want it to be all of them.i would expect all of these to be applicable to the current regime and to those who step forward. If you don't bring anything to the table other than the same desire to be involved at the club that all us fans have then i am afraid the club does not need or want you on the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 From Sons of Struth....The first two questions are same answer. Its up to shareholders to decide but right now there is only one group putting up a case. Am I interested in joining board? Never considered it bit would be nice however I don't think I'm properly qualified Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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