AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 In addition, a number of youth players made the transition into the first team squad, probably at an earlier stage in their development than was initiallyintended. During the season nine graduates from the Academy made their first team debuts – Tom Walsh, Daniel Stoney, Barrie McKay, Fraser Aird, ChrisHegarty, Kal Naismith, Robbie Crawford, Andy Murdoch and Lewis Macleod - and they, together with other Academy graduates such as Andy Little, KyleHutton and Ross Perry, have collectively made over 250 first team appearances.The continuing successful development of our youth policy and the number of home grown players in the first team squad is more important than everand, now that the SFA registration embargo has been lifted, further investment will be required in both the Academy and scouting structure. This will benecessary to ensure that the level of success is maintained and that we remain innovative.However, the future augurs well with more than 25 Academy players involved in the international scene and high hopes exist for many of the Academyplayers currently training with the first team. This optimism is further enhanced by the success of our Under 17s, who have won the Glasgow Cup againstCeltic in four of the last six years.In Ally McCoist we have a manager who retains that burning desire to win. He has, as was stated earlier, brought in nine new players and the improvementin their performance is apparent for all to see. However, we must also make sure that our youth development strategy is as near perfect as possiblebecause the future of the Club lies in our ability to find, nurture and promote the best young players wherever we can find them.They are our investment for tomorrow and we must assess all talent with an eye on future value.http://www.rangers.c...lReport2013.pdfEncouraging signs when the facts are laid out like that. Good to hear that what so many on here have called for and criticised the management about is a main priority at the club now.Look forward to seeing the fruition of the hard work being put in now further down the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro1976 162 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 A wee question to anyone, now i may have missed something over the summer, but where the fuck is kyle hutton,???? Nandos, pish, etc etc. Just wondering. I think if the boy applied himself a wee bit better and stop thinking he was billy big baws, he may have been not a bad player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 A wee question to anyone, now i may have missed something over the summer, but where the fuck is kyle hutton,???? Nandos, pish, etc etc. Just wondering. I think if the boy applied himself a wee bit better and stop thinking he was billy big baws, he may have been not a bad player.Injured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 A wee question to anyone, now i may have missed something over the summer, but where the fuck is kyle hutton,???? Nandos, pish, etc etc. Just wondering. I think if the boy applied himself a wee bit better and stop thinking he was billy big baws, he may have been not a bad player.Making his third (I think) appearance for the U20's tonight at Ibrox, 7pm kick off, after recovering from injury. Ally said last week he was tempted to bring him into the squad but wanted to give him a few more games yet. Shame for him because he started preseason really promisingly.Get along to Ibrox and see how he does, it's FREE entry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfideldo 4,468 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I am all for positives and I am delighted to see players progress to the first team, our victories in one off Glasgow Cup Finals have also delighted me. Unfortunately its not all the facts, just those that suit the agenda. Most of the players mentioned would not be near the first team under normal circumstances. We may have 25 players in International squads , our biggest rivals have double that.There is no mention of the Youth League or Youth Cup over the same period.2012/13 Not In League lost 5-1 to Kilmarnock at home in 5th round2011/12 5th in league behind Celtic, Hearts, Hibs & Aberdeen Lost 3-1 to Dundee United at home in third round.2010/11 3rd in league behind Celtic & Hearts Lost in Final to Celtic2009/10 3rd in League behind Celtic & Motherwell Lost in Final to Hibs2008/09 3rd in League behind Hibs & Hearts Lost in final to HibsIn my opinion the standard and style of play has regressed in recent years. What I would say is don't take my word for it, come along and see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 I am all for positives and I am delighted to see players progress to the first team, our victories in one off Glasgow Cup Finals have also delighted me.Unfortunately its not all the facts, just those that suit the agenda. Most of the players mentioned would not be near the first team under normal circumstances. We may have 25 players in International squads , our biggest rivals have double that.There is no mention of the Youth League or Youth Cup over the same period.2012/13 Not In League lost 5-1 to Kilmarnock at home in 5th round2011/12 5th in league behind Celtic, Hearts, Hibs & Aberdeen Lost 3-1 to Dundee United at home in third round.2010/11 3rd in league behind Celtic & Hearts Lost in Final to Celtic2009/10 3rd in League behind Celtic & Motherwell Lost in Final to Hibs2008/09 3rd in League behind Hibs & Hearts Lost in final to HibsIn my opinion the standard and style of play has regressed in recent years. What I would say is don't take my word for it, come along and see.I'd love to be in a position to make these games mate. But it's a long travel from Southern England. What I'd say towards your info there though is that's a few finals. Don't think anyone is saying we are the finished article with regards to our youth policy or otherwise. But, there are promising signs that we are on the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfideldo 4,468 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 But, there are promising signs that we are on the way.The finals were achieved by players already in the system, the more recent times are the current setup's players and tactics.Have to say I don't see it, I don't believe that anyone that watches the youths would disagree with me. If long balls to a lone striker is the youth departments vision then god help us. We have lots of talented players especially at the younger age groups, I fear the current regime will ruin them. You can't play long balls at 7-a-side, but it changes when they are told to "hit the channels". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The finals were achieved by players already in the system, the more recent times are the current setup's players and tactics.Have to say I don't see it, I don't believe that anyone that watches the youths would disagree with me. If long balls to a lone striker is the youth departments vision then god help us. We have lots of talented players especially at the younger age groups, I fear the current regime will ruin them. You can't play long balls at 7-a-side, but it changes when they are told to "hit the channels". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Like I said previously about our under 17s on Sunday against aberdeen they were very poor, long balls all day, if this is the way forward I don't know, I like elfideldo watch the youths a lot and I think we are getting it badly wrong, I think we need change, to get players that can keep the ball and be technical and play a more passing style under Sinclair this ain't going to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfideldo 4,468 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I have to say the last three "youth" games I haved attended is as poor a sequence I can remember. Beaten and outplayed by Kilmarnock, Aberdeen and Motherwell at three of the older ages groups.A few things from last nights game sum up the shambles we have become. Kyle McAusland became the 5th right footed left back we have used at under 20 this season. Three left backs were released last season.Late in the game we were awarded a free kick just outside the right side of the penalty area, an ideal opportunity for a left footed player to have a strike on goal. We didn't have a naturally left footed player on the pitch.We had four central midfielders on the bench while Aird played central midfield, Walsh and Telfer came on and were asked to play wide while Aird remained in the centre.In my opinion things won't get better until there is a change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Bear 444 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 What did Jimmy Sinclair do before he was at Rangers? I have yet to hear anyone say a good word about the man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
110 steps 283 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 http://www.rangers.c...lReport2013.pdfEncouraging signs when the facts are laid out like that. Good to hear that what so many on here have called for and criticised the management about is a main priority at the club now.Look forward to seeing the fruition of the hard work being put in now further down the line.It might be the clubs priority but it sure ain't Allys.Didn't he say just the other day that when we get back to the top we will have to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,851 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Gasparotto not count?Really surprised the likes of Stoney and Aird havent featured that much, if at all this season so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I really don't understand why our youth teams don't get it down and pass? Surely we want to produce the best players that we can, right? So we should be ditching the long ball shit and playing total football. Who cares if we're not winning - developing the style of play is more important or am I talking out my blow hole? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 What did Jimmy Sinclair do before he was at Rangers? I have yet to hear anyone say a good word about the man.I believe he was part of the Largs Mafia Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I believe he was part of the Largs Mafia Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johan cruyff 1 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Sinclair needs to go in my opinion , he is a long ball merchant which has no place in the modern game, his ideas about how football should be played with young players is in the dark ages, we should be teaching a technical., passing style to develop our youngsters, but Sinclair only cares about winning and I know winning is important , but you need to have better technical skills , for us to improve we need change, and judging by his signings of youth players in the last few years , he doesn't appear to be getting that right, his time as head of youth is well up, he's been here for 8 years and in my opinion we have went miles back in developing young talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,577 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 The finals were achieved by players already in the system, the more recent times are the current setup's players and tactics.Have to say I don't see it, I don't believe that anyone that watches the youths would disagree with me.If long balls to a lone striker is the youth departments vision then god help us.We have lots of talented players especially at the younger age groups, I fear the current regime will ruin them. You can't play long balls at 7-a-side, but it changes when they are told to "hit the channels".I read your e-mails all the time time, and this one has me worried.Are we really that bad?One thing you may be able to help me with. I pass some plastic pitches at Grangemouth every Wednesday night at around 1945. There is a group of small kids all in mhank strips being coached. I surmise it is a club thing run by the filth. small pitches, small goals, the works. Are we as a club doing anything like this?I am no fan of Ally as a manager, but if he is really letting our club run into the ground like this it is further grist to the mill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,577 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Sinclair needs to go in my opinion , he is a long ball merchant which has no place in the modern game, his ideas about how football should be played with young players is in the dark ages, we should be teaching a technical., passing style to develop our youngsters, but Sinclair only cares about winning and I know winning is important , but you need to have better technical skills , for us to improve we need change, and judging by his signings of youth players in the last few years , he doesn't appear to be getting that right, his time as head of youth is well up, he's been here for 8 years and in my opinion we have went miles back in developing young talent.But it appears we are not even winning.This thread has me filled with despair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 We had the perfect time to invest in coaching, training, youth facilities, youth programmes, youth set ups. But we never done it, and sadly it doesn't look like we will. It's amazing though, we can see it, why can't they? You would think a club like ours would realise how important youth is going to be to us in the future? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It might be the clubs priority but it sure ain't Allys.Didn't he say just the other day that when we get back to the top we will have to SPEND, SPEND, SPENDI heard him in an interview recently talking about buying players in the January break. He was more or less saying he'd be looking for 'free's' in the window, if the board sanctioned it. So much for our great youth policy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 The true test is not getting into the team it's in excelling when you do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsox1 1,361 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Gasparotto not count?Really surprised the likes of Stoney and Aird havent featured that much, if at all this season so far.Aird hasn`t made the final cut for the Scotland under 19`s euro qualifying . He needs to progress more and I`m not sure he`ll get it with us just now. maybe out on loan would help him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Under Jimmy Sinclair we are regressing at an alarming rate.The playing style belongs to a bygone age when strength and power ruled over technique and touchAs Elfideldo correctly says, we do have talented players at all levels (particularly the younger ones) but as soon as he (JS) gets his hands on them on a full time basis all the natural ability is coached out of them.Depressing times ahead until changes are made i'm afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I heard him in an interview recently talking about buying players in the January break. He was more or less saying he'd be looking for 'free's' in the window, if the board sanctioned it. So much for our great youth policy.The decision to call of the Dunfermline game tells you all you need to know about McCoist's confidence in youth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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