Sick of this nonsense

[JCDBigBear 11,002]

I'm sick of all this nonsense. Boardroom and fans at each others throats.

IT HAS TO STOP.

The current board and the requisitioners are at loggerheads. One lot are fighting to get on board and the other lot are fighting to stay on board.

We have a major problem within the fan-base let alone the boardroom.

The fans are all over the place. There are a fair number backing the requisioners to the hilt whilst what appears to be a similar number who either think the current board are starting to produce or that they don't think the requisitioners deserve to be on the board. A third lot are undecided either way.

Neither the existing board nor the proposers are acting in a manner that I think befits the RFC traditions. To a certain extent, I also believe that the animosity between our own fans has reached gutter level. I'm extremely disappointed in the fans groups in general because none of them appear capable and what is worse, willing to try to get unanimity of some sort.

What is quite clear to me is that compromise must be reached over this boardroom squabbling to ensure the Club goes forward. I cannot see any other outcome due to what could be an impasse in voting share.

As for the numerous fans groups, well I despair. The total lack of desire on the part of any group to achieve any level of consensus to help our Club is simply shocking. Surely we can try to reach agreement for the sake of Rangers? Is that really too much to ask? Is there more chance of a unified Korea before we Bears can get ourselves together?

[1st_Jan_1994 4,868]

Fans are lying to other fans and they keep buying it

Some of the posts on here past few days prove its at an all time high with people blatantly ignoring the accounts and making stuff up and passing it off as fact to suit their Minico argument

If this AGM doesn't out put the agenda pushers and liars to bed once and for all then the support will never recover from this - ever

[Pure_Quality 3,296]

Some people are unwilling to take the fact getting corporate governance isn't P Murray i the requisitioners the current board.

[Pure_Quality 3,296]

Hatred of him clouds a judgement

[Pure_Quality 3,296]

D Murray thaT is

[1st_Jan_1994 4,868]

^^^ ???

[johnnydeb 0]

die and leave us alone ffs watp

[gmcf 35,465]

It does seem never ending.

And until it does we're our own worst enemies and destroying ourselves.

On a personal level I back the board. I'm not saying the requisitioners don't have the best of intentions but they are causing havoc right now.

We're talking about a group that didn't put their money up front and have no plan that they're willing to disclose. They were happy to let others do the hard work then take over once we were financially stable.

To me that just doesn't sit right. It's not the Rangers way for so called ' Rangers Men ' to just come in and take over. It's actually quite embarrassing. Had they been in from the start then ok. But to wait just in case it didn't work - no thanks.

[harry handsome 629]

We've had a set of accounts in the last week or so for the first time in a while, they aren't great and could be a hell of a lot better but that's life in business recovery.

The AGM is held so that investors, after having time to digest the financials, can challenge the board if they are not happy. This is common practise and in some cases like ours are not pretty, hold on tight this will be a very stormy AGM attended by a few people with agendas. The press will be awash with stories and commentary at the time, you may wish to go holiday to avoid it.

From my point of view it takes a couple of years for things to settle and the business plan moving forward will take the same time work itself out, if the current board can weather this with a strong AGM and business plan it should settle down.

I'm in neither camp just want the AGM out of the way and a settled board, I would maybe ditch Stockridge and put the boy Blin in the hot seat, that way we would be pretty much looking at an honest board.

I was all for Charles Green at the time as he at least put someone's money where his mouth was but looking at the salaries etc that wasn't the actions of a man running a business prudently. They all go on about who has sunk money in, looking at it they took out more than they put in, even Ally.

So for me the best way forward is an honest mix of both camps and they agree to put their differences behind them for the good of the club.

Remember one thing the fans put more money into the club than anyone, ever.

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

" I'm extremely disappointed in the fans groups in general because none of them appear capable and what is worse, willing to try to get unanimity of some sort."

VB have openly suggested on several occasions that they are willing to sit down with any fan group

[gogzy 31,195]

I'm sick of all this nonsense. Boardroom and fans at each others throats.

IT HAS TO STOP.

The current board and the requisitioners are at loggerheads. One lot are fighting to get on board and the other lot are fighting to stay on board.

We have a major problem within the fan-base let alone the boardroom.

The fans are all over the place. There are a fair number backing the requisioners to the hilt whilst what appears to be a similar number who either think the current board are starting to produce or that they don't think the requisitioners deserve to be on the board. A third lot are undecided either way.

Neither the existing board nor the proposers are acting in a manner that I think befits the RFC traditions. To a certain extent, I also believe that the animosity between our own fans has reached gutter level. I'm extremely disappointed in the fans groups in general because none of them appear capable and what is worse, willing to try to get unanimity of some sort.

What is quite clear to me is that compromise must be reached over this boardroom squabbling to ensure the Club goes forward. I cannot see any other outcome due to what could be an impasse in voting share.

As for the numerous fans groups, well I despair. The total lack of desire on the part of any group to achieve any level of consensus to help our Club is simply shocking. Surely we can try to reach agreement for the sake of Rangers? Is that really too much to ask? Is there more chance of a unified Korea before we Bears can get ourselves together?

The bold part is spot on and a sad state of affair that we have got ourselves into.

I suggest that after the AGM, no matter what the results are, we all call a truce, back the board, nad give them a chance to either rise or fall.

This fighting helps no-one.

[gogzy 31,195]

die and leave us alone ffs watp

what?

[Reformation Bear 6,453]

I agree it has to stop and I believe it will stop - but it may take some time. Attitudes are getting entrenched with the strong risk that facts and clear-headed thinking are shoved aside by stark opinion and emotional drivers all claiming to be acting for the best interests of the Club. Fueled by media and with very high stakes for the Board and the Requisitioners of control of the Club.

I had hoped that whatever the outcome of the AGM that the vast majority of Supporters would accept that and get behind the Board and get on with the work of restoring Rangers to the top levels of football and of running the Club to the highest professional standards. That hope may be misplaced. It now seems to me that if the Requisitioners do not get their way in adding alternative names for election as Directors at the AGM (ie themselves) then the approach could well be to simply muster enough votes to block the current Directors from being reappointed and force (presumably) an EGM where we go through the whole thing all over again.

Strong leadership at Chairman and CEO levels would, I suspect, have gone a long way to having avoided this but we do not have a Chairman and that leaves a tough path for a CEO to deal with substantially on his own. That strength of leadership can only be obtained when a Chairman is appointed and starts to work with whoever is CEO and FD and the other Board members to forge a leadership of the Club that works to quell noisy malcontents. So I now suspect that if the result of the AGM does not go the way of the Requisitioners and those whose sentiment lies with them, then we are in for more disruption and instability until the sort of leadership mentioned above is established - which - given the increasing divergence of views among Supporters - may take a while which would not be ideal. I hope that the Board when elected - whatever its composition - has got a Chairman lined up who has the ability to forge the sort of leadership at the Club that is going to be needed.

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

I'm sick of all this nonsense. Boardroom and fans at each others throats.

IT HAS TO STOP.

The current board and the requisitioners are at loggerheads. One lot are fighting to get on board and the other lot are fighting to stay on board.

We have a major problem within the fan-base let alone the boardroom.

The fans are all over the place. There are a fair number backing the requisioners to the hilt whilst what appears to be a similar number who either think the current board are starting to produce or that they don't think the requisitioners deserve to be on the board. A third lot are undecided either way.

Neither the existing board nor the proposers are acting in a manner that I think befits the RFC traditions. To a certain extent, I also believe that the animosity between our own fans has reached gutter level. I'm extremely disappointed in the fans groups in general because none of them appear capable and what is worse, willing to try to get unanimity of some sort.

What is quite clear to me is that compromise must be reached over this boardroom squabbling to ensure the Club goes forward. I cannot see any other outcome due to what could be an impasse in voting share.

As for the numerous fans groups, well I despair. The total lack of desire on the part of any group to achieve any level of consensus to help our Club is simply shocking. Surely we can try to reach agreement for the sake of Rangers? Is that really too much to ask? Is there more chance of a unified Korea before we Bears can get ourselves together?

Agreed

Both the club and the board lack a real leader - it's one of the reasons why I was gutted when Walter stepped down as chairman - we need someone capable of leading the club and the fans to utilise our collective strength - trouble is I can't think of a name capable of doing that but that is what this club needs now - a real leader as chairman!

[In walter we trust 228]

Bang on , FF and RM , how are the fans opinions miles apart , I just don't get it . Really disappointed walter resigned at least he would have knowledge to an extent at what's going on

[nachothelegend 1,932]

Bang on , FF and RM , how are the fans opinions miles apart , I just don't get it . Really disappointed walter resigned at least he would have knowledge to an extent at what's going on

I'm pissed off at him doing it twice.

All this crap will catch up with us.

It has driven me away from Ibrox.

I cannot attend when you've got sheep running about with Banners and leaflets. They wont like it when I tell them where To stick them.

Fucking sick of them disrupting the Club.

It is and will cost our Club Money.

[elephants stoned 2,994]

The fans groups are the ones causing this namely the rst and rsa with their inability to see past the potential power being dangled in front of them by mini. I cant see any respite from this im afraid, if the board win the votes atthe AGM then mini will just up the hate campaign hes not going anywhere and if mini win then im pretty sure thousands of pretty pissed of bears like myself will be none too happy about it. But what if as i believe each director or applicant is voted on individualy then its possible some board members could be voted on as well as some requistoners, a kind of coalition that would be possibly a good comprimise or possibly a really big problem depending on who it was and how they acted on the board.

[bawsburst 1,381]

We've had a set of accounts in the last week or so for the first time in a while, they aren't great and could be a hell of a lot better but that's life in business recovery.

The AGM is held so that investors, after having time to digest the financials, can challenge the board if they are not happy. This is common practise and in some cases like ours are not pretty, hold on tight this will be a very stormy AGM attended by a few people with agendas. The press will be awash with stories and commentary at the time, you may wish to go holiday to avoid it.

From my point of view it takes a couple of years for things to settle and the business plan moving forward will take the same time work itself out, if the current board can weather this with a strong AGM and business plan it should settle down.

I'm in neither camp just want the AGM out of the way and a settled board, I would maybe ditch Stockridge and put the boy Blin in the hot seat, that way we would be pretty much looking at an honest board.

I was all for Charles Green at the time as he at least put someone's money where his mouth was but looking at the salaries etc that wasn't the actions of a man running a business prudently. They all go on about who has sunk money in, looking at it they took out more than they put in, even Ally.

So for me the best way forward is an honest mix of both camps and they agree to put their differences behind them for the good of the club.

Remember one thing the fans put more money into the club than anyone, ever.

Like Tesco as customers not owners, that chance was missed to be owners by the same infighting and culprits as we have now.

[JCDBigBear 11,002]

" I'm extremely disappointed in the fans groups in general because none of them appear capable and what is worse, willing to try to get unanimity of some sort."

VB have openly suggested on several occasions that they are willing to sit down with any fan group

I did say "in general" and also used the word "capable". That is not a dig at them for trying but clearly it hasn't worked. I'd like to see RFC getting involved at trying to get the fans together (outwith the board's influence). We really need a fully inclusive supporters group where we all have a say.

[Copland bear 7,966]

Jcdbigbear, here here m8, we have had our differences on here yet I always respected your comments, We are all on the same side, but right now I think if there was wage reductions to board members I would stick with them. It is terrible to talk about sides? I am on Rangers side, and do not want Mini Murray anywhere near Ibrox. Would love Dave King to buy up a few shares or generate extra share for x amount of million to him. I would love Dave King to be a major share holder within our board room.

[sonofbear 398]

I don't see how a coalition will even satisfactory. Who on the requisitioners list is worthy of a place on our board. The only one IMO who was even close to being acceptable was Frank Blin and he's out. McColl himself isn't even interested. Personally I will never ever accept Mini or Malky as viable candidates as they are as toxic as Jack. We need this club to move forwards not backwards and I agree the current board should appoint a chairman ASAP preferably outwith and with previous business success on their CV.

[JCS 649]

I'm sick of all this nonsense. Boardroom and fans at each others throats.

IT HAS TO STOP.

The current board and the requisitioners are at loggerheads. One lot are fighting to get on board and the other lot are fighting to stay on board.

We have a major problem within the fan-base let alone the boardroom.

The fans are all over the place. There are a fair number backing the requisioners to the hilt whilst what appears to be a similar number who either think the current board are starting to produce or that they don't think the requisitioners deserve to be on the board. A third lot are undecided either way.

Neither the existing board nor the proposers are acting in a manner that I think befits the RFC traditions. To a certain extent, I also believe that the animosity between our own fans has reached gutter level. I'm extremely disappointed in the fans groups in general because none of them appear capable and what is worse, willing to try to get unanimity of some sort.

What is quite clear to me is that compromise must be reached over this boardroom squabbling to ensure the Club goes forward. I cannot see any other outcome due to what could be an impasse in voting share.

As for the numerous fans groups, well I despair. The total lack of desire on the part of any group to achieve any level of consensus to help our Club is simply shocking. Surely we can try to reach agreement for the sake of Rangers? Is that really too much to ask? Is there more chance of a unified Korea before we Bears can get ourselves together?

Well said JCD! I've made the same points many times in my articles over the past two years - to absolutely no avail! I despair of these guys every last one of them!

[SuperAli 1,366]

Totally agree with JCD here.

Think this has been an ongoing problem over several years but has only just bubbled to the top now. I think this situation is screaming out for a merger between all the fans groups and if this would happen we can move forward and discuss problems effectively and maturely.

[Getstiffed 8,863]

Fans are lying to other fans and they keep buying it

Some of the posts on here past few days prove its at an all time high with people blatantly ignoring the accounts and making stuff up and passing it off as fact to suit their Minico argument

If this AGM doesn't out put the agenda pushers and liars to bed once and for all then the support will never recover from this - ever

Last summer quite a number of Rangers fans vowed never to forgive or forget those who lie to the support and attempt to harm the club for their own personal gain. For me this extends to those you alluded to.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

I'm sick of all this nonsense. Boardroom and fans at each others throats.

IT HAS TO STOP.

The current board and the requisitioners are at loggerheads. One lot are fighting to get on board and the other lot are fighting to stay on board.

We have a major problem within the fan-base let alone the boardroom.

The fans are all over the place. There are a fair number backing the requisioners to the hilt whilst what appears to be a similar number who either think the current board are starting to produce or that they don't think the requisitioners deserve to be on the board. A third lot are undecided either way.

Neither the existing board nor the proposers are acting in a manner that I think befits the RFC traditions. To a certain extent, I also believe that the animosity between our own fans has reached gutter level. I'm extremely disappointed in the fans groups in general because none of them appear capable and what is worse, willing to try to get unanimity of some sort.

What is quite clear to me is that compromise must be reached over this boardroom squabbling to ensure the Club goes forward. I cannot see any other outcome due to what could be an impasse in voting share.

As for the numerous fans groups, well I despair. The total lack of desire on the part of any group to achieve any level of consensus to help our Club is simply shocking. Surely we can try to reach agreement for the sake of Rangers? Is that really too much to ask? Is there more chance of a unified Korea before we Bears can get ourselves together?

Superb summary mate