cumnockbear 2,446 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 http://vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=116&a=happily-ever-after------- Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I take it we are now looking for someone to pull the sword from the stone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Instead of taking the time too pen all that he should just have written we hate Chris Graham,Mark Dingwall,Paul Murray and FF.It would have saved a lot of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 It's funny how perceptions have changed....a year ago everyone was desperate to move away from the 'sugar daddy' single owner model and the way of the consortium was highly praised....now it seems the call is out for king to ride in to the rescue and for us to go back to that singular model....I'm torn as a part of me thinks many owners and with fan representation there is a lower risk and opportunity to expand in different areas however having seen the division and agenda driven splits this has caused we might be best going back to the one singer one song approach! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,716 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Disclaimer:“The events portrayed in this story are fictitious. Any similarity to any person, living or dead is merely coincidental.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 It's funny how perceptions have changed....a year ago everyone was desperate to move away from the 'sugar daddy' single owner model and the way of the consortium was highly praised....now it seems the call is out for king to ride in to the rescue and for us to go back to that singular model....I'm torn as a part of me thinks many owners and with fan representation there is a lower risk and opportunity to expand in different areas however having seen the division and agenda driven splits this has caused we might be best going back to the one singer one song approach!I tend to keep making the same point in this debate but neither method is perfect and if we go back to a single owner we'll likely get some wanting multiple ownership back again after a period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I tend to keep making the same point in this debate but neither method is perfect and if we go back to a single owner we'll likely get some wanting multiple ownership back again after a period.Your right and you will never please everyone but at least with a single owner everyone would know where they stood and we wouldn't have to suffer all the claims and counter claims from groups and individuals desperate to get a slice of the club whilst the majority of fans are left bored with it all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMorrison1872 320 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The Ref never fails to impress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 You know what is it we need............a shrubbery! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The Ref never fails to impress.I would have been more impressed if he took the time to make up fairytale like story's about our real enemy's of the club. FFS they are not hard too find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherster Perry 1977 18 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Your right and you will never please everyone but at least with a single owner everyone would know where they stood and we wouldn't have to suffer all the claims and counter claims from groups and individuals desperate to get a slice of the club whilst the majority of fans are left bored with it all!I personally would like the comfort of a wealthy owner for a period until we establish a plan and strategy. Stability after uncertainty.In the longer term I would like to see a model that allowed the wealthy owner a vehicle to pass majority ownership to the fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,577 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 You know what is it we need............a shrubbery!And some Wine for my children! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 It's funny how perceptions have changed....a year ago everyone was desperate to move away from the 'sugar daddy' single owner model and the way of the consortium was highly praised....now it seems the call is out for king to ride in to the rescue and for us to go back to that singular model....I'm torn as a part of me thinks many owners and with fan representation there is a lower risk and opportunity to expand in different areas however having seen the division and agenda driven splits this has caused we might be best going back to the one singer one song approach!Iv always been in favour of a rich owner as I believe we need additional investment in order for us to become no 1 again. Cutting your cloth won't win the prize. The latest boardroom battle has convinced me even more that we need the one large and controlling shareholder.I always enjoy the VB stuff but thought the article was a bit long and I never really liked the anology as I think it's been done before. It was better than anything I could write. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I personally would like the comfort of a wealthy owner for a period until we establish a plan and strategy. Stability after uncertainty.In the longer term I would like to see a model that allowed the wealthy owner a vehicle to pass majority ownership to the fans.Will never happen.The fans had the chance to save the club then buy it and both flopped miserably.On top of all the infighting and bickering the last thing the club needs is fans running it.Board representation is another thing entirely and perfectly achievable provided it is someone with no links to the existing groups or profiteers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Will never happen.The fans had the chance to save the club then buy it and both flopped miserably.On top of all the infighting and bickering the last thing the club needs is fans running it.Board representation is another thing entirely and perfectly achievable provided it is someone with no links to the existing groups or profiteers.I don't agree, and I don't agree with fans running clubs either. If Dave King wants to pay xyz for xyz then he is perfectly entitled to do so. He gave £20 million over a decade ago and so he has a track record of giving to Rangers for the benefit of the club. The way football has been going Rangers needs a backer that will push a little further than we can at present, and investment should be welcomed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherster Perry 1977 18 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Will never happen.The fans had the chance to save the club then buy it and both flopped miserably.On top of all the infighting and bickering the last thing the club needs is fans running it.Board representation is another thing entirely and perfectly achievable provided it is someone with no links to the existing groups or profiteers.I think timing is evertything and either is achievable if planned out correctly.We were in the wrong state for anything worthwhile to work while in admin and with the tax case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Instead of taking the time too pen all that he should just have written we hate Chris Graham,Mark Dingwall,Paul Murray and FF.It would have saved a lot of time.Didnt mean to rep you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 That was very funny Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fed Up 211 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I tend to keep making the same point in this debate but neither method is perfect and if we go back to a single owner we'll likely get some wanting multiple ownership back again after a period.Is there a way to have an element of both? I don't know but if the fans had - is it 25.1% - then they are strong enough to stop crazy stuff happening but at the same time the 51% or more majority shareholder could get beyond petty infighting if it arose. Not sure if the figures are right but - something like that might give us the best of both worlds? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry handsome 629 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 We don't need any more multiple minimal shareholders asking for EGM's every year, we need stability and for me that comes with a majority shareholder wielding the power.Once the ship is steadied and the rats are off the ship we will need some time to set the place straight, top to bottom.We are scraping by at the moment and will continue to do so until we hear the champions league anthem at Ibrox again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo55 65 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I honestly don't know what to make of any of this any more.For the moment I will just keep on supporting my club.I am being more aware who supporting my club means from now on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 It's funny how perceptions have changed....a year ago everyone was desperate to move away from the 'sugar daddy' single owner model and the way of the consortium was highly praised....now it seems the call is out for king to ride in to the rescue and for us to go back to that singular model....I'm torn as a part of me thinks many owners and with fan representation there is a lower risk and opportunity to expand in different areas however having seen the division and agenda driven splits this has caused we might be best going back to the one singer one song approach! I'm not sure I really bother what Walter Smith has to say nowadays about the politics .However he did say one thing a few years back that I think is very true .Rangers football club has to be under the control of one very rich supporter.I hate David Murray like a passion but if say Dave King can come in and takes us forward and stops the infighting ,then I'm sure the club would not be having all the problems we are having now.The spectre of David Murray still hangs over our club even when he is no longer there .In our circumstance and at this time in our history ,maybe it's time we went back to that ideal if it's anyway possible .Another share issue with King getting most of the control, may possibly be the best thing for the club now . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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