corkinator 611 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 BP9 it is about equal treatment. Should we sit in silence while our culture is disassembled in front of us or do we stand up to the powers that be and point out the hypocrisy of their actions?i stopped ready ANY of his posts weeks ago, honestly, he's better off ignored, troll of the highest order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 i stopped ready ANY of his posts weeks ago, honestly, he's better off ignored, troll of the highest order.I should have known better than to interact with him. I'd have been better banging my head off a brick wall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 I should have known better than to interact with him. I'd have been better banging my head off a brick wall.I suspect that he'll be the "guests'" favourite poster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I suspect that he'll be the "guests'" favourite poster.I suspect most of our guests are Rangers fans who just want to read what's going on and not interact - suspecting most guests are tarriers is just more stuff and nonsense ! ( although some will be) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 2,927 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I think that we need to have thicker skin than we seem to have ! I find it hard to call what went on last night 'abuse' ( except in its mildest form - and is no more than I would expect (say) Aiden mcgeedybtonget if he returned to Ibrox playing against us when we return to Europe !Thanks for the answer.Due to being 40 I can remember the good old days where anything could be said or sung and there was not the mock offence of today's football by any side, so I don't think it is about having thicker skin.Look at the reporting on the racism at CSKA, where it is now the refs fault???There is nothing mentioned about the songs at the Piggery, do you not see the imbalance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 We're about as obsessed as them these days. Who gives a fuck? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clan macrae 292 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 A lot of shit going on.you miss the big picture.i firmly believe that there is an ongoing conspiricy against not only our club but also our culture.the man behind it dr.john Reid a well known republican sympathiser and also your ex boss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clan macrae 292 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 A lot of shit going on.you miss the big picture.i firmly believe that there is an ongoing conspiricy against not only our club but also our culture.the man behind it dr.john Reid a well known republican sympathiser and also your ex boss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Thanks for the answer.Due to being 40 I can remember the good old days where anything could be said or sung and there was not the mock offence of today's football by any side, so I don't think it is about having thicker skin.Look at the reporting on the racism at CSKA, where it is now the refs fault???There is nothing mentioned about the songs at the Piggery, do you not see the imbalance?I have also seen very little of Ajax ripping up seats !Also (and off topic re: CSKA ) are refs now meant to be conversant in every foreign language and the nuance of every nations laws ? Asking a hell off a lot of the ref! Back on topic - do you (have you) as a Rangers fan want to stoop to their level of reporting every little abuse that they do - we as a club were not even involved in the game but we want to wade in and report them - is that really how we are going to act? does that not seem petty to you - I don't care if they do it I aint stooping down to their low level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 A lot of shit going on.you miss the big picture.i firmly believe that there is an ongoing conspiricy against not only our club but also our culture.the man behind it dr.john Reid a well known republican sympathiser and also your ex boss.Assuming that was aimed at me - my 'boss' when I was in the forces was HM and head of the government when I was serving was Maggie (whom I detested but she was good to the troops)! - I don't believe in the conspiracy theory angle (although I accept some folk would like to do us damage - I just don't think they conspire together). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,781 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It’s not about being obsessed, that’s very short sighted. It’s about fighting our corner and fighting for those fans that have been wrongly prosecuted and careers now in tatters due to criminal records for singing songs. Now we all know the negative press and so called witch hunt that has gone on with our support for what seems a life time so when the vile lot across the city are belting out abuse that can be deemed ‘sectarian’ are we supposed to say “ah fuck it, who cares” ?What do we get for sweeping it under the carpet and being dignified in our silence? It’s not going to stop our fans being taken for a ride by the media and authorities is it. What we can do is stand up for ourselves and point out that if we are to be punished for what is deemed offensive chanting then why not other clubs who are doing or have done the same?It’s not obsessing over another club or being petty, it’s simply asking for a level playing field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 It’s not about being obsessed, that’s very short sighted. It’s about fighting our corner and fighting for those fans that have been wrongly prosecuted and careers now in tatters due to criminal records for singing songs. Now we all know the negative press and so called witch hunt that has gone on with our support for what seems a life time so when the vile lot across the city are belting out abuse that can be deemed ‘sectarian’ are we supposed to say “ah fuck it, who cares” ?What do we get for sweeping it under the carpet and being dignified in our silence? It’s not going to stop our fans being taken for a ride by the media and authorities is it. What we can do is stand up for ourselves and point out that if we are to be punished for what is deemed offensive chanting then why not other clubs who are doing or have done the same?It’s not obsessing over another club or being petty, it’s simply asking for a level playing field. I actually did use to believe in a rise above it, dignified silence approach. But it's been clear for a long time now that it hasn't worked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 We're about as obsessed as them these days. Who gives a fuck?Football rivalry is an obsession Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Anybody had a reply yet? Im still waiting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Give it up BP9 your just trolling. There were illegal chants getting broadcasted into Scottish homes from a Scottish clubs crowd. If you think the chants were only aimed at the Dutch then you are sadly deluded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 2,927 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I have also seen very little of Ajax ripping up seats !Also (and off topic re: CSKA ) are refs now meant to be conversant in every foreign language and the nuance of every nations laws ? Asking a hell off a lot of the ref! Back on topic - do you (have you) as a Rangers fan want to stoop to their level of reporting every little abuse that they do - we as a club were not even involved in the game but we want to wade in and report them - is that really how we are going to act? does that not seem petty to you - I don't care if they do it I aint stooping down to their low level.I previously thought everything over a season balances itself out and I am not a conspiracy theorist, however when you review some if the decisions by UEFA against us then compare and contrast with the Tarrier love in across the city, it is becoming increasingly difficult not too indulge in a tit for tat policy, as we are currently well behind.Would help if we were all on the same page as Board through to fans but that would make things too easy...Meant to say UEFA are investigating the seat damage by Ajax and it is all over the media which imo reinforces the points being made by the majority of posters on this issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I previously thought everything over a season balances itself out and I am not a conspiracy theorist, however when you review some if the decisions by UEFA against us then compare and contrast with the Tarrier love in across the city, it is becoming increasingly difficult not too indulge in a tit for tat policy, as we are currently well behind.Would help if we were all on the same page as Board through to fans but that would make things too easy...Everything balances out over a season????Where were you between July 2012 and May 2013?Transfer embargoTV money taken off usSPL money taken off usJelavic transfer money not handed overTitle stripping campaignAccused repeatedly of sporting integrity and financial dopingLiquidated over a debt that ultimately didn't existAnyone else add what you will......F...n hell where's the balance there???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 2,927 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Everything balances out over a season????Where were you between July 2012 and May 2013?Transfer embargoTV money taken off usSPL money taken off usJelavic transfer money not handed overTitle stripping campaignAccused repeatedly of sporting integrity and financial dopingLiquidated over a debt that ultimately didn't existAnyone else add what you will......F...n hell where's the balance there????Think you missed the bit where I posted "i previously thought" going back a bit further than the last 18 months.I am referring to my years of following football with penalty decisions, dodgy offsides etc Now in the last couple of years since certain people gained positions of power, I would totally agree with you that the balance is now weighted and not in our favour as we have been truly fucked over Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Is it a issue for Rangers or us as supporters that another team sings 'naughty' songs to yet another team? If Hibs fans abuse hearts are we sending out complaints to UEFA? Do two wrongs make a right ? Is petty how we now go?Can you just answer the question?'How do you propose we tackle the issue then?' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Who is the most frustrating poster to converse with? BP9 or John3 v 16 (have I got the chapter and verse right?)Hard one that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,788 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Who is the most frustrating poster to converse with? BP9 or John3 v 16 (have I got the chapter and verse right?)Hard one that.admin should send the two of them to forum heaven Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Who is the most frustrating poster to converse with? BP9 or John3 v 16 (have I got the chapter and verse right?)Hard one that.BP9 acts like an utter thundercunt on a daily basis here, so most will go with him.You'd think it was an act. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Can you just answer the question?'How do you propose we tackle the issue then?'Laughter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I have also been made aware of the reason Ajax fans reacted was the unveiling of an anti-semetic banner by the manky lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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