Boxing

[ZZed 4,510]

Good grudge match - watch from 1 hour onwards

[callumbo87 209]

If you want to see the answer to those who say Floyd Mayweather is boring, here he is fighting a man with the guts (and the lack of brains) to try to brawl with him.

Mayweather may have skills but since moving up to welter he has cherry picked, keeping his 0 intact.

Gatti was always a C class fight...exciting to watch but he was done after the Ward trilogy

[LucyBlue 2,278]

Love it!

It's not brutal it's beautiful.

[JamieD 18,931]

Mayweather may have skills but since moving up to welter he has cherry picked, keeping his 0 intact.

Gatti was always a C class fight...exciting to watch but he was done after the Ward trilogy

I don't think there's any question of that, but the fact that he was wary doesn't mean he would have lost certain fights if they had been made.

I really don't see how even Manny beats him.

What I will say is that any other fighter bringing half the skills of Mayweather, and with Corrales, Castillo (x2), Gatti, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Cotto and Alvarez on his CV would be questioned a lot less than Floyd is.

[JamieD 18,931]

Love it!

It's not brutal it's beautiful.

It's both. Important to remember that.

Watch Ray Mancini vs Duk Koo Kim.

[LucyBlue 2,278]

Thanks guys....too much to watch now...bookmarked.

Ta very much to those not being arseholes!

Appreciated.

[JamieD 18,931]

Good grudge match - watch from 1 hour onwards

The press conferences in the lead up to that fight were hysterical

Eubank

[The Rangers FC 751]

Thanks guys....too much to watch now...bookmarked.

Ta very much to those not being arseholes!

Appreciated.

Can't forget this gem.

[callumbo87 209]

I don't think there's any question of that, but the fact that he was wary doesn't mean he would have lost certain fights if they had been made.

I really don't see how even Manny beats him.

I agree however I hate the nut hugging he gets from certain sections in the boxing fraternity.

He picks opponents e.g Marquez, Alvarez, Hatton and makes them fight above or below there optimum weight. After winning at a canter he is proclaimed the greatetst, MAN UP mayweather!

I think Manny in his prime would have given him a very close fight, he is unpredictable, throws punches in bunches/weird angles and he is fast.

Cotto in his prime at light welter would have given him a very close fight

Sugar Shane would have beaten him in his prime many moons ago not when he was on his last legs/same goes for Oscar.

Not to rant but it pisses me off the amount of praise he gets for beating past prime fighters lol

Had he been fight in the era of the 4 Kings he would have lost his 0 thats for sure.

[theweebluenose 4,332]

Before my time but Barry McGuigan was a Boxer who I've always admired and respected and that saying something coming from a bitter bastard like myself.

[gmcf 34,152]

Late 80s/ early 90s Britain had 3 world class middleweights - Nigel Benn, Chris Eubanks and Michael Watson. They fought amongst themselves for world titles , each one a classic. Might be worth a search on YouTube.

[JamieD 18,931]

I agree however I hate the nut hugging he gets from certain sections in the boxing fraternity.

He picks opponents e.g Marquez, Alvarez, Hatton and makes them fight above or below there optimum weight. After winning at a canter he is proclaimed the greatetst, MAN UP mayweather!

I think Manny in his prime would have given him a very close fight, he is unpredictable, throws punches in bunches/weird angles and he is fast.

Cotto in his prime at light welter would have given him a very close fight

Sugar Shane would have beaten him in his prime many moons ago not when he was on his last legs/same goes for Oscar.

Not to rant but it pisses me off the amount of praise he gets for beating past prime fighters lol

Had he been fight in the era of the 4 Kings he would have lost his 0 thats for sure.

I appreciate what you're saying and I also don't mean to rant but people talk about Mayweather like he's 25, beating old men. He's an old man. Why should his wins be asterisked because they're against "past prime fighters"? How do you decide when their prime is? How do you decide whether or not Floyd is past his, for that matter? And was Cotto really past it when Floyd beat him, or is he considered past it because Floyd beat him? He gave him a great fight and was 34-2 at the time, with his two losses coming against great champs. And who's to say what a fighter's natural weight is? Who says Floyd is fighting at his? People are willing to make excuses for his opponents that they wouldn't make for him, and cut his opponents slack that they wouldn't cut him. You're probably right, he would have lost the zero in other eras. So what? Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler all lost fights and nobody denies that they are all-time greats. My appreciation for Mayweather has very little to do with his unbeaten record. I doubt anybody cares about that but him.

People act like Mayweather's easy wins should be brushed off because his opponents looked ordinary. Can you imagine how hard it is to make fighters like Marquez look ordinary? And Marquez on his special training regime no doubt too.

[The Godfather 71,874]

I grew up with Rocky and was thus devastated when I found out boxing was not haymakers from round 1 with no holding.

[JamieD 18,931]

I grew up with Rocky and was thus devastated when I found out boxing was not haymakers from round 1 with no holding.

I was amazed that it took so long into the series for one of them to die, given how the fights pan out.

[JamieD 18,931]

Before my time but Barry McGuigan was a Boxer who I've always admired and respected and that saying something coming from a bitter bastard like myself.

Didn't McGuigan have support from both communities in NI? And gave his gratitude back to both.

[Blue Nosed Babe 20,583]

Lennox Lewis is also a top quality fighter.

Bruno Tyson fights from the 80s are worth a watch and Bruno McCall when he finally became world champion.

[gogzy 31,195]

Rikki hatton is good to watch. Floyd mayweather junior is way better though.

Lucy, check out the big boxing thread in general sports. There are some cracking fights posted.

[The Godfather 71,874]

I was amazed that it took so long into the series for one of them to die, given how the fights pan out.

It's amazing that it took till Rocky 5 till Balboa found out he had brain damage....

He got rattled every second of every round!

[JamieD 18,931]

Lennox Lewis is also a top quality fighter.

Bruno Tyson fights from the 80s are worth a watch and Bruno McCall when he finally became world champion.

One of my pals went to Vegas to see Lewis vs Tyson. I fucking hated him for that. I'm glad the fight was a non-event. Hah.

[folkestoneger 8,133]

Jim Watt v Sean O'Grady.

O'Grady was invited to appear at Septic Park because he sounded like a tim. Appeared on the pitch wearing a Celtic strip but it done him no good as Watt beat him on a ko with a wicked right hook ( ok a headbutt really)

Watt beating the crap out of Charlie Nash ( a repulican shitbag from Londonderry) is also an enjoyable watch

[callumbo87 209]

I appreciate what you're saying and I also don't mean to rant but people talk about Mayweather like he's 25, beating old men. He's an old man. Why should his wins be asterisked because they're against "past prime fighters"? How do you decide when their prime is? How do you decide whether or not Floyd is past his, for that matter? And was Cotto really past it when Floyd beat him, or is he considered past it because Floyd beat him? He gave him a great fight and was 34-2 at the time, with his two losses coming against great champs. And who's to say what a fighter's natural weight is? Who says Floyd is fighting at his? People are willing to make excuses for his opponents that they wouldn't make for him, and cut his opponents slack that they wouldn't cut him. You're probably right, he would have lost the zero in other eras. So what? Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler all lost fights and nobody denies that they are all-time greats. My appreciation for Mayweather has very little to do with his unbeaten record. I doubt anybody cares about that but him.

People act like Mayweather's easy wins should be brushed off because his opponents looked ordinary. Can you imagine how hard it is to make fighters like Marquez look ordinary? And Marquez on his special training regime no doubt too.

I agree Mayweather is not a young man in Boxing terms but if we dissect his record in my opinion he is given far too much credit for this career post lightweight.

Arguably he will go down as one of the best(Duran) if not the best there ever has been but its when he moves up to light welter he starts avoiding certain fighters in my opinion. Instead of fighting Tszyu, Hatton he fights a washed up Gatti, Washed up Mitchell.

Moves up to welter and instead of fighting imo a prime Cotto or Mosley he fights Judah who got beat by a slow slugger in Baldomir then again ducks any of the other top contenders and fights Baldomir.

Moves up to Light Middle and takes on an OLD and past it Middleweight in Oscar, wins a very close fight. But again could have fought Margarito, Cotto, Manny

I am not disagreeing with you on his talent, more with his cherry picking of opponents. If we compare to Sugar ray, Hearns, even Manny they have always fought the best win, lose or draw. Floyd is too afraid to lose his perfect record.

In regard to Marquez, remember JMM is a natural lightweight and never fought above 135 yet Floyd made him fight at a catchweight of 144 although Floyd if i rememmber came in at 147 and was fined for doing so. Unfair advantage and it showed during the fight.

[JamieD 18,931]

It's amazing that it took till Rocky 5 till Balboa found out he had brain damage....

He got rattled every second of every round!

Of course, the real joke is that Stallone's facial damage and slurred speech from birth complications have given the impression that he has had brain damage from day one.

Ok, that's not really very funny at all.

[The Godfather 71,874]

Of course, the real joke is that Stallone's facial damage and slurred speech from birth complications have given the impression that he has had brain damage from day one.

Ok, that's not really very funny at all.

He also gave his mother brain damage from his birth judging by the look of her

[Rangers#1 5,459]

Sugar Ray Leonard

[theweebluenose 4,332]

Didn't McGuigan have support from both communities in NI? And gave his gratitude back to both.

Yep, refused to take sides on the religious divide at a time when some Athletes might have - took a peace flag to the ring rather than a Tri-Colour or UJ. It also probably helped that he married a Protestant and became a British Citizen with many people.