graeme_4 34,315 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Classic Rangers, players in recent years join us and gradually get worse and worse. Makes you wonder what happens at training. Can't remember the last player we signed who actually improved considerably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,669 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We are not motherwell. He isnt as good as the standard of players we lost. He is good enough to be a rotational players for us but not much more imoAway and don't talk a load of shite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,669 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Classic Rangers, players in recent years join us and gradually get worse and worse. Makes you wonder what happens at training. Can't remember the last player we signed who actually improved considerably.Jelavic? Naismith? Mohsini? Lee Wallace? There just off the top of my head.Think before you speak Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,669 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Wasn't at his best the day. Shit game though in generally but we battled throw. Would disagree about him being poor recently minus today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Ruining a top class player, it's Matt McKay all over again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thought he was off the pace in midweek, too many poor touches. Maybe a bit of rotation would be no bad thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Classic Rangers, players in recent years join us and gradually get worse and worse. Makes you wonder what happens at training.Can't remember the last player we signed who actually improved considerably.That's nonsense. So many players have proved their worth at Rangers time after time. What is certain is that playing for Rangers will find a player out, and that is still the case; playing in a smaller league hasn't diminished that in any way whatsoever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 That's nonsense. So many players have proved their worth at Rangers time after time. What is certain is that playing for Rangers will find a player out, and that is still the case; playing in a smaller league hasn't diminished that in any way whatsoever.Ok then, name me a player who under our current management team has significantly improved as a player after signing for us??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Ok then, name me a player who under our current management team has significantly improved as a player after signing for us???That's not the point he was making. Was he talking about us under Ally, or Rangers over a longer period? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 That's not the point he was making. Was he talking about us under Ally, or Rangers over a longer period?He clearly said "in recent years".. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He clearly said "in recent years"..How recent? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 How recent? well I tell you what....you define 'recent' as whenever you want and then come back and answer who was the last player to significantly improve after signing for us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superally07 387 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Id say the last player to significantly improve after joining us was Naismith. As much as I hate him he was fantastic for us before he left and definitely better than he was when he joined. More down to Walter probably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 well I tell you what....you define 'recent' as whenever you want and then come back and answer who was the last player to significantly improve after signing for us!But I did set it. And his point was that players got worse. How could they have got worse when we won leagues? If you are asking me to which players has Ally signed in the last year that have 'significantly improve[d]' then that becomes a bit more difficult because there are issues still facing the club when it comes to who he can buy, and the job he expects them to do to get us back to the top league. Apart from Ally's signings, then some of the other players have improved. Lewis MacLeod has improved; we can't really appreciate if Lee Wallace has improved as a player, his Scotland form seemed fairly impressive in a match he played in, so we can take it he has not got 'worse'. If you say players have got worse under Ally, I don't think any manager is going to get every signing right, at the best of times, and I don't think there is anything out of the ordinary as regards Rangers compared to any other club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Id say the last player to significantly improve after joining us was Naismith. As much as I hate him he was fantastic for us before he left and definitely better than he was when he joined.More down to Walter probably.I agree. Whether a player has got worse or not obviously can't be fairly gauged if it is a subjective thing, so it would have to be on statistics of games/wins ratios, games/goal for and against ratios. The problem in this league is that many of our wins don't signify great progress in the eyes of many, and it is hard to tell how each player would perform against the best. Ally's first couple of seasons in the top league will be a fairer assessment of these things possibly. Right now, we can only play who we are up against, and we are doing well in that regard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy1872 0 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I don't understand Macleod on the left. If anything I'd have Law there.Ally McCoist said that Lewis will eventually slot into the middle of the park but for now he feels that game time is most important for him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Been our best player this season after Wallace and Daly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christchurch Rangers 1,229 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Been our best player this season after Wallace and Daly.dont forget Ian Black Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeting_glimpse 21 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Could have sworn that I read somewhere that he's carrying an injury. Although a quick Google search doesn't prove that hypothesis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We have a thing about taking the footballing ability out of players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He was signed on the back of 1 good season at Motherwell, how was the rest of his career?There's an endless list of players who have a good season or 2 in the SPL then move on and never reach the heights again. It's up to him to show that he's more than a 1 season wonder.You really cant say we have ruined a player who has 1 good season in 8. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We have a thing about taking the footballing ability out of players.That's probably why we haven't won much in the last couple of decades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Needs to be played further up the park, he's playing too deep just now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,479 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We have a thing about taking the footballing ability out of players.Punt it up the park mentality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I still rate Law highly. Very good player. I'd rather see him and Macleod swap roles but. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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