Adoniram 1,919 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wasn't attempt at putting the guy down at all mate. All I'm trying to get across is I feel like Im being played and to make matters worse its not coming from a corporate suit, its coming from a man who I've idolized since I was 6 years old.I know but nice to see him being put firmly in his place. And yes he is playing the fans. He is as much to blame for our troubles as the money men.He chose a policy of recruiting over paid mercenaries which he knew would cost the club millions of pounds.All this crap about he doesnt prepare the budgets and he doesnt set a players wage doesn't wash with me either.The manager has an input and he also decides which players to go for. Green didn't choose Black or Cribari or Argyriou or Sandaza or Kyle.He's not solely to blame but neither is he blameless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norgerpd 280 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Was at the home game and we drew 1-1 (Dalziel) and decided to avoid the away game.At least when Cologne battered us 5-0 we knew they were decent but Chesterfield Hated the home game as well...........Gaw Dalziel scored!(Played at every level with him growing up so when the Gers watched him,they saw me!).Our scouts have never recognised the better player, lol! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazz1972 397 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Agree with Ally about the players. They signed the contracts in good faith and shouldn't be forced into taking cuts. From reading Wallace's Q & A it doesn't seem as if he was trying to force them. Just putting the feelers out to see if it would be an option is the impression he gives. Ally saying he has his own ideas who is responsible but would rather not say is pretty poor though. Why even say that? It's jus generating more hysteria. Who is it he blames? Is he having a go at Green? Was it not Mathers who sanctioned all the latest signings in the summer and Ally who wanted to bring all these players in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Hated the home game as well...........Gaw Dalziel scored!(Played at every level with him growing up so when the Gers watched him,they saw me!).Our scouts have never recognised the better player, lol!Still love his celebrations in front of the jungle in a 3-3 game around 81.A proper GIRUY moment or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,184 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 At this level would you not expect these players to look good/decent when up against mainly part-timers earning a fraction of what we're shelling out.?I understand that.I do expect it and the results validate my expectations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I know but nice to see him being put firmly in his place. And yes he is playing the fans. He is as much to blame for our troubles as the money men.He chose a policy of recruiting over paid mercenaries which he knew would cost the club millions of pounds.All this crap about he doesnt prepare the budgets and he doesnt set a players wage doesn't wash with me either.The manager has an input and he also decides which players to go for. Green didn't choose Black or Cribari or Argyriou or Sandaza or Kyle.He's not solely to blame but neither is he blameless.Crap? He doesn't, he came out and said as much last week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 At this level would you not expect these players to look good/decent when up against mainly part-timers earning a fraction of what we're shelling out.?One glance at the League table would validate those expectations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 1 Cammy Bell2 Steve Simonsen3 Scott Gallacher4 Richard Foster5 Andrew Mitchell6 Emilson Cribari7 Sebastien Faure8 Ross Perry9 Chris Hegarty10 Lee McCulloch11 Bilel Mohsni12 Luca Gasparotto13 Lee Wallace14 Steven Smith15 Arnold Peralta16 Kyle Hutton17 Nicky Law18 Ian Black19 Lewis Macleod20 Robbie Crawford21 David Templeton22 Fraser Aird23 Dean Shiels24 Barrie McKay25 Andy Little26 Jon Daly27 Nicky Clark28 Alan Smith29 Liam Kelly30 Jamie Wilson31 Ryan Sinnamon32 Kyle McAusland33 Kristian Gibson34 Craig Halkett35 Greg Pascazio36 Jamie Mills37 Lewis White38 Scot Whiteside39 David Brownlie40 Andy Murdoch41 Dylan Dykes42 Scott Roberts43 Darren Ramsay44 Charlie Telfer45 Tom Walsh46 Adam Wilson47 Michael Mossie48 Jordan Hamill49 Ben Reilly50 Jamie Burrows51 Calum Gallagher52 Danny Stoney53 Sam Liddington54 Junior Ogen55 Ryan Hardie56 Josh JeffriesReady for first team football? I must be confused, does being on the bench mean you have to be used as sub? When did that rule come into place?Anyway, like I said: Ally thinks he's cute. Not gonna fly with me. He has enough players to win this division and the next reasonably comfortably.PS. I named my youngest after my personal hero, Ally McCoist, I have no desire to look for reason to batter the guy over the head with. I wont however be played for a fool. End of discussion mate.Possibly the greatest reply ever posted on RM. Magnifique! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norgerpd 280 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Still love his celebrations in front of the jungle in a 3-3 game around 81.A proper GIRUY moment or two.2nd minute,wasn't it?Spoke to him that night back in the 'Well.Asked him if he planned it.He said, not at all but as he ran away all he could see was a wall of green and nature took over.Great days............hope to fuck we see the likes again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I understand that.I do expect it and the results validate my expectations.Results - YesPerformances - NoJust a personal opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieBear 204 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 And the master distances himself from any implication in the current financial quagmire in one casual move. And its lapped up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,735 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 1 Cammy Bell2 Steve Simonsen3 Scott Gallacher4 Richard Foster5 Andrew Mitchell6 Emilson Cribari7 Sebastien Faure8 Ross Perry9 Chris Hegarty10 Lee McCulloch11 Bilel Mohsni12 Luca Gasparotto13 Lee Wallace14 Steven Smith15 Arnold Peralta16 Kyle Hutton17 Nicky Law18 Ian Black19 Lewis Macleod20 Robbie Crawford21 David Templeton22 Fraser Aird23 Dean Shiels24 Barrie McKay25 Andy Little26 Jon Daly27 Nicky Clark28 Alan Smith29 Liam Kelly30 Jamie Wilson31 Ryan Sinnamon32 Kyle McAusland33 Kristian Gibson34 Craig Halkett35 Greg Pascazio36 Jamie Mills37 Lewis White38 Scot Whiteside39 David Brownlie40 Andy Murdoch41 Dylan Dykes42 Scott Roberts43 Darren Ramsay44 Charlie Telfer45 Tom Walsh46 Adam Wilson47 Michael Mossie48 Jordan Hamill49 Ben Reilly50 Jamie Burrows51 Calum Gallagher52 Danny Stoney53 Sam Liddington54 Junior Ogen55 Ryan Hardie56 Josh JeffriesReady for first team football? I must be confused, does being on the bench mean you have to be used as sub? When did that rule come into place?Anyway, like I said: Ally thinks he's cute. Not gonna fly with me. He has enough players to win this division and the next reasonably comfortably.PS. I named my youngest after my personal hero, Ally McCoist, I have no desire to look for reason to batter the guy over the head with. I wont however be played for a fool. End of discussion mate.Superb post Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 1 Cammy Bell2 Steve Simonsen3 Scott Gallacher4 Richard Foster5 Andrew Mitchell6 Emilson Cribari7 Sebastien Faure8 Ross Perry9 Chris Hegarty10 Lee McCulloch11 Bilel Mohsni12 Luca Gasparotto13 Lee Wallace14 Steven Smith15 Arnold Peralta16 Kyle Hutton17 Nicky Law18 Ian Black19 Lewis Macleod20 Robbie Crawford21 David Templeton22 Fraser Aird23 Dean Shiels24 Barrie McKay25 Andy Little26 Jon Daly27 Nicky Clark28 Alan Smith29 Liam Kelly30 Jamie Wilson31 Ryan Sinnamon32 Kyle McAusland33 Kristian Gibson34 Craig Halkett35 Greg Pascazio36 Jamie Mills37 Lewis White38 Scot Whiteside39 David Brownlie40 Andy Murdoch41 Dylan Dykes42 Scott Roberts43 Darren Ramsay44 Charlie Telfer45 Tom Walsh46 Adam Wilson47 Michael Mossie48 Jordan Hamill49 Ben Reilly50 Jamie Burrows51 Calum Gallagher52 Danny Stoney53 Sam Liddington54 Junior Ogen55 Ryan Hardie56 Josh JeffriesReady for first team football? I must be confused, does being on the bench mean you have to be used as sub? When did that rule come into place?Anyway, like I said: Ally thinks he's cute. Not gonna fly with me. He has enough players to win this division and the next reasonably comfortably.PS. I named my youngest after my personal hero, Ally McCoist, I have no desire to look for reason to batter the guy over the head with. I wont however be played for a fool. End of discussion mate.A fair chunk of those are 16 or under. Josh Jeffries plays for the u15's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie 205 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ally has my full support on this issue. We should be looking at trimming the non-playing budget before we look at players. That after all takes up most of the wages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Come out and say it Ally! Tell us who you thinks to blame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,735 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Come out and say it Ally! Tell us who you thinks to blame.He won't.It's always riddles Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 So you think the likes of Advocaat and Le Guen would do what Ally did? Have a word with yourself, mate.Ally is still, by far, the only one in the corridors of power at Ibrox Stadium that has earned trust... he did that long ago. And his actions over the past 24 months have only re-affirmed the trust. For me anyway.So you think we should ditch McCoist and bring in, say Neil Warnock?They may have to, after his latest sit on the fence statement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 One glance at the League table would validate those expectations.Yes we're strolling away with the league and so we should be given respective turnover/resources.QOTS won this league with a playing budget of £250k.Shouldn't be spending this much to achieve the same imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yes we're strolling away with the league and so we should be given respective turnover/resources.QOTS won this league with a playing budget of £250k.Shouldn't be spending this much to achieve the same imo.Yep, they're now 3rd bottom in the Championship.Fuck sake Ally, why didn't you follow the QOTS model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Everyone in the Charles Green camp please stand up.Has the penny dropped yet. Plenty have dropped into Charles and Imran's pockets recently.Rangersitis my feckin fat sweaty hairy spotty arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 oh what a surprise, notfootballer having a tantrum when not getting his own way shocker Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 A fair chunk of those are 16 or under.Josh Jeffries plays for the u15's.They are pro youths and are available for selection. There is no other logical reason to have a bench a player short, than to kid less informed people on that we need more players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,735 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 They are pro youths and are available for selection. There is no other logical reason to have a bench a player short, than to kid less informed people on that we need more players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 They are pro youths and are available for selection. There is no other logical reason to have a bench a player short, than to kid less informed people on that we need more players.I'd rather they were playing for the youths than sitting on the bench.Anyway, it's a common tactic used by managers who feel - rightly or wrongly - that they want more tools to do their job. Paul Ince did it with Blackpool the other week.What it has to do with our financial position and his comments in the OP is beyond me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Everyone in the Charles Green camp please stand up.Has the penny dropped yet. Plenty have dropped into Charles and Imran's pockets recently.Rangersitis my feckin fat sweaty hairy spotty arse.Green really did nothing wrong tbh, not to justify the hysteria Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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