Guardian 4,281 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Or should they take a hard line on Ally and enforce the necessary cuts ?About the only thing both the rebels and the board fans agreed on was the need to curb spending.Yet Ally, and now some stirring fans, now think they shouldn't.What changed ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Its a bit like in 2010 when the tory/lib dem goverment came in and started cutting, everybody supported cuts until something they used or needed got cut then all hell broke loose. Instead of a mature debate about how to cut costs we have people screaming cut their budget but not mine. Allys doing the same and its unacceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How does ally say they shouldnt curb spending? The financial troubles are McCoists fault now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How does ally say they shouldnt curb spending? The financial troubles are McCoists fault now?I think it more the point if ally doesn't want to get rid of no one and keep filling the squad up, the old board backed ally to the hilt now ally doesn't want to back the board in what is competent to the secured future of the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How does ally say they shouldnt curb spending? The financial troubles are McCoists fault now?Ally is saying that, but as usual he plays games and gets others to say what he wants Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grfc1872 56 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 fringe players must go,management team costswage cap on future contractsseason ticket increasesfootball academy ajax stylewere these not the things chucky was going to introducein his dossier to move us on without mccoist Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Of course they shouldn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yes, its the Rangers way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 They should take a hard line in all types of spending, not just Ally's.If we aren't going to get back more than we put in then it isnt justifiable, same as with this new finance consultant we brought in. I would also love a cap on players wages above 30, the length of contract offered, and only bosmans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,238 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The proposed players wage cuts is the only proposal that has been leaked, there will be a lot more to come including admin,cleaning, maintenance,groundstaff,catering (not pie stall catering) and yes the boards wages/bonuses etc will all be possible candidates for cuts, it can only be for the benefit of the club so not sure why anyone would complain unless you are in one of the stated positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 How does ally say they shouldnt curb spending? The financial troubles are McCoists fault now?Ally is against player wage cuts.Ally is against selling players.Ally is playing the victim against the board to rally fans behind him.He clearly wants the team costs to remain the same and has publicly declared he will have nothing to do with cost cutting.That is a prelude to cuts being enforced by the big bad board and greeting from Ally in the papers.If he's not man enough to manage the team, and all that entails, then he should walk away and make room for someone who can.NOBODY thinks the spending on the team is at an acceptable level.The board will now get pelters for doing what everyone demanded they do before the AGM.Go back and read the posts. Especially those from folk who now disagree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,621 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 So now Ally's responsible for the financial management of the club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 So now Ally responsible for the financial management of the club?Where did anyone say that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Graham Wallace and the board are at this moment responsible for the well being of the club. McCoist as an employee is entitled to his views but at the end of the day must 'toe the corporate line' or find a new job for himself.Wallace said after the AGM that we must cut costs and seek new investment. No way will we see any new investment whilst costs are spiraling out of control, so obviously cutting spending is our #1 priority. Expect cuts across the board and a reduction in the size of our squad through the sale of players and attrition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,237 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The Board should make cuts in every department (including themselves) immediately whilst seeking major investment as a matter of urgency. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 McCoist liked Mather because he agreed to every signing he wanted. Now we have to cut costs because of that. Does McCoist not see this. He shouldn't be our fucking manager end of. All this talk of admin and McCoist is still trying to keep his highly paid signings and if he could add more. The fans can see we don't need anyone else, the fans can see who needs to go why can't he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KojakMF 18 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 We should have never got into this position, it was mind boggling why we are paying certain guys the money we are now. We had the chance to build slowly, we should have used more of the youth players in the team - sure some of them are not going to set the world of football on fire but for the leagues we were playing in they could have done a job. It would of course would lose a bit of certainty about promotion aspects but still we would keep the costs low and move up the leagues.Investment should have went into scouting and training (be it better coaches etc). All I see right now is quick fixes and as the resent news suggests even that was potentially done the wrong way as well. The cuts are needed I hope the board makes the decisions that need to be made to steady the ship, put us on a firm financial footing to then progress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Neither. How about taking time to review the Business then introduce cost savings as required.Are these continued knee-jerk threads helping to calm down an already anxious support?I thought not. If it was Speirs et al stirring it we would all be shouting about it.How about giving it a rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Of course mccoist wants to keep his team with a budget higher by a 1000 times more than any side bar the tims. He can only just manage this team. What would it be like if there is cuts? Still though the blind will have the next roll of excuses ready Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,248 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Why dress it up under the guise of a stupid board question?Just title it Ally Bash 18/01/2014 or let's just pin a daily thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ally's not responsible for managing the bank account but turn the clock back to last summer, Ally wanted a bigger squad, if the board had refused him a lot of Bears would be blaming the board for not giving Ally what he needed (or thought he needed), blame lies on all sides and that includes the some of the support for demanding too much....IMO of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,841 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Aye that'll be amazing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ally is against player wage cuts.Ally is against selling players.Ally is playing the victim against the board to rally fans behind him.He clearly wants the team costs to remain the same and has publicly declared he will have nothing to do with cost cutting.That is a prelude to cuts being enforced by the big bad board and greeting from Ally in the papers.If he's not man enough to manage the team, and all that entails, then he should walk away and make room for someone who can.NOBODY thinks the spending on the team is at an acceptable level.The board will now get pelters for doing what everyone demanded they do before the AGM.Go back and read the posts. Especially those from folk who now disagree.While the club has to work within its means - the manager should ALWAYS be trying to get the best squad he can and in the modern world that is finance - that is not a failure of McCoist - it's a strength - and it's his job to fight the footballing corner, why you want to see this as a negative trait in Aly I don't understand that! Ally is Also on record that he will get on with the Job no master he cuts or budgets or do you conveniently forget that in your list of what he says? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Personally i'm amazed that Ally doesn't offer to personally pay off all the players out of his own cash, pull on a number 9 jersey and play for the club for free.Why the hell shouldn't he fight for his staff and his budget? Have any of you moaners had to deal with staff in a time of company cost cutting? You do your best for them, and you fight for your team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rfc#1. 1,877 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 They should take a hard line and ensure the continuity of the Club. If ally doesn't think he can cope with that its time for him to move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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