The Beast 9,207 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Scottish Conservatives are the only logical choice. Unless you're a socialist of course which I'm very glad I'm not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersfc77 170 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Ah BA we are not spoilt for choice and precisely the reason to go independent A coalition gvt no one in the Scottish nation want vs Labour mis-management or promoter of Septic football Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,236 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Ah BA we are not spoilt for choice and precisely the reason to go independent A coalition gvt no one in the Scottish nation want vs Labour mis-management or promoter of Septic footballDisagree and would never vote for smug Salmond's fantasy independence.Worse off?Employment?Eurozone?Euros?Defence?Foreign policy?Just a few examples that they haven't a clue about.The SNP took a pounding at the last General Election and hopefully the Scottish people will see through the independence bullshit and vote No and end Salmond and Sturgeon's careers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Disagree and would never vote for smug Salmond's fantasy independence.Worse off?Employment?Eurozone?Euros?Defence?Foreign policy?Just a few examples that they haven't a clue about.The SNP took a pounding at the last General Election and hopefully the Scottish people will see through the independencebullshit and vote No and end Salmond and Sturgeon's careersIm fairly confident they will BA - but it will leave our club pretty much in the same vacuum.Funnily we had this discussion amongst some of the FF writers years ago - re-build Labour from the inside or go with another party. I wasnt convinced then, am still am not to this day that such an option would work.Im not even certain we need to cosy up to any particular party - simply raise our politcal profile somehow Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Educator 1,572 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 "Where I live, the politics is, on the main, between SNP, & Labour. Both parties ranks are swollen with good church going, Rangers supporting Protestants. I could NEVER vote for SNP, so I choose Labour, in an area where there are 100 COS affiliated churches, for every 1 RC chapel. Are the Western Isles an anomaly? ( The staunchly Protestant Lewis, Harris, & North Uist) Are we different to the rest of Scotland? I believe yes. "Yet when the BBC decided to bring their program "An Island Parish" north of the border for two series they chose an island with what we are led to believe has a majority of RC's as their community. In the episodes that covered their yearly celebration of the island's fishermen many of the boats openly flew the Irish republican flag with many of the crowd sporting c****c tops. Tbh, I found it sad that this program had become part of the propaganda machine that would portray Scotland as a predominantly catholic community. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersfc77 170 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 BA ye have to be kidding Scotland has died as a nation for employment due to consecutive Labour/conservative London-centric policies Defence has been cut by Tories with more promisedIt was Labour policy that tied us to EU law with Cameron still supportingWorse off more like never had it so badLondon wants to take even more off us under the Barnett Formula if we remain Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 BA ye have to be kidding Scotland has died as a nation for employment due to consecutive Labour/conservative London-centric policies Defence has been cut by Tories with more promisedIt was Labour policy that tied us to EU law with Cameron still supportingWorse off more like never had it so badLondon wants to take even more off us under the Barnett Formula if we remainThe EU don't give a fuck about the UK never mind Scotland and that's why DC will be putting it to the vote if they don't change their way. How much of a voice do you think Scotland will have in Europe as an independent ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,236 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 BA ye have to be kidding Scotland has died as a nation for employment due to consecutive Labour/conservative London-centric policies Defence has been cut by Tories with more promisedIt was Labour policy that tied us to EU law with Cameron still supportingWorse off more like never had it so badLondon wants to take even more off us under the Barnett Formula if we remainThe UK Governments have been far from perfect but I don't share your view that Scotland has died as a nation etc.The SNP have no credible policies just bullshit and fantasies.The Scottish people have played a vital role in the UK and in my opinion we would be much worse off leaving the UK. There would be even less of a choice with independence and we would be stuck with the Krankies (Salmond and Sturgeon) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Educator 1,572 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 "Scottish Conservatives are the only logical choice. Unless you're a socialist of course which I'm very glad I'm not."The Scottish Conservatives have been a busted flush since their involvement in the Thatcher regime and quite rightly so. Sadly as the Labour party has ceased to be representative of all Scott's here has been no real mainline avenue for the centre ground voter in Scotland. Likewise the Lib Dem's have soiled themselves by propping up a conservative government that has less understanding of the world of finance than the board of RFC so they are also a busted flush. For the Conservative party of Scotland to regain any prominence at the ballot box it would have to totally divorce itself from the party south of the border and redraw it's ideological outlook to represent all in society and not just the ones it has in the past. Personally I see there being more chance of the pope making a public appearance in a Rangers top than that happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,236 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Im fairly confident they will BA - but it will leave our club pretty much in the same vacuum.Funnily we had this discussion amongst some of the FF writers years ago - re-build Labour from the inside or go with another party. I wasnt convinced then, am still am not to this day that such an option would work.Im not even certain we need to cosy up to any particular party - simply raise our politcal profile somehowIt's how we raise our political profile that is the problem D'Art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchibaldLeitch 380 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I will never vote labour nor any other party that has links to celtc fc, communism or socialism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersfc77 170 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I now note that after I pointed out that your credible reasons for not wanting independence were infact Westminster policies ye have resorted to offering no reason as to why we are better together Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,236 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I now note that after I pointed out that your credible reasons for not wanting independence were infact Westminster policies ye have resorted to offering no reason as to why we are better togetherI note that you didn't come up with any reasons all you said was the Tories cut defence and Labour were responsible for EU. Separatists don't have any credible policies all they do is blame and criticise the UK Government. They also use the "London" patter to create the English nonsense. I don't feel the need to be liberated....especiallyby the Krankies !!Reasons for staying in the UK, I would be here all night typing !! but here's a few.Greater choiceEU (for now) Lower taxesPublic Services (will be worse by independence)Keeping the pound EmploymentBetter offSecurityDefenceEconomyNATOThe UK of Scotland, England, Northern Ireland and Wales has been in the main a success (far from perfect) for over 300 years.Put smug Salmond and Sturgeon on the dole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 "Scottish Conservatives are the only logical choice. Unless you're a socialist of course which I'm very glad I'm not."The Scottish Conservatives have been a busted flush since their involvement in the Thatcher regime and quite rightly so. Sadly as the Labour party has ceased to be representative of all Scott's here has been no real mainline avenue for the centre ground voter in Scotland. Likewise the Lib Dem's have soiled themselves by propping up a conservative government that has less understanding of the world of finance than the board of RFC so they are also a busted flush. For the Conservative party of Scotland to regain any prominence at the ballot box it would have to totally divorce itself from the party south of the border and redraw it's ideological outlook to represent all in society and not just the ones it has in the past. Personally I see there being more chance of the pope making a public appearance in a Rangers top than that happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 All those calling for a Tory vote tell me what have the Scottish torys or the UK Torys done to deserve a Rangers vote if i can put it that way? They didnt bother a damn to even speak out about our mistreatment during admin. As we and them are the only two major instiuions left who are unashamedly Unionist would have expected a litke more sympathy and support from them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,207 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 "Scottish Conservatives are the only logical choice. Unless you're a socialist of course which I'm very glad I'm not."The Scottish Conservatives have been a busted flush since their involvement in the Thatcher regime and quite rightly so. Sadly as the Labour party has ceased to be representative of all Scott's here has been no real mainline avenue for the centre ground voter in Scotland. Likewise the Lib Dem's have soiled themselves by propping up a conservative government that has less understanding of the world of finance than the board of RFC so they are also a busted flush. For the Conservative party of Scotland to regain any prominence at the ballot box it would have to totally divorce itself from the party south of the border and redraw it's ideological outlook to represent all in society and not just the ones it has in the past. Personally I see there being more chance of the pope making a public appearance in a Rangers top than that happening.Pinko propaganda. The Thatcher years were golden years for all of the UK apart from a few malcontents.I would never vote for any socialist party which includes Labour and SNP, if you want to see a real busted flush look at socialism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps95v7 387 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 This might be off topic, but you would think being a member of the Orange Order you would be for the Union of these islands i.e. The United Kingdom not so.There are members of the Orange Order who are based in the East of Scotland (where I now stay, coming from Glasgow originally) are Rabid SNP voters.Surely with this forthcoming scam of a referendum coming up, we are all voting for a Unionst Party (Labour/Tory/LibDem) but then again each to their own. :uk: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,207 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 This might be off topic, but you would think being a member of the Orange Order you would be for the Union of these islands i.e. The United Kingdom not so.There are members of the Orange Order who are based in the East of Scotland (where I now stay, coming from Glasgow originally) are Rabid SNP voters.Surely with this forthcoming scam of a referendum coming up, we are all voting for a Unionst Party (Labour/Tory/LibDem) but then again each to their own. :uk: Genuinely don't understand this. They must be very confused individuals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Pinko propaganda. The Thatcher years were golden years for all of the UK apart from a few malcontents.I would never vote for any socialist party which includes Labour and SNP, if you want to see a real busted flush look at socialism.Elaborate on malcontents! as i might be one of them under Her Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,207 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Elaborate on malcontents! as i might be one of them under HerMiners, Tommy Sheridan types, provos..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Miners, Tommy Sheridan types, provos.....Miners? i was idle for 18 months through her policies when that twat tebbit told me to get on my bike if i wanted work, they destroyed the Scottish Industry and didnt give a Dam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,207 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Miners? i was idle for 18 months through her policies when that twat tebbit told me to get on my bike if i wanted work, they destroyed the Scottish Industry and didnt give a Dam.More myths I'm afraid. Heavy industry on a large scale was doomed, she had the balls to deal with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 More myths I'm afraid. Heavy industry on a large scale was doomed, she had the balls to deal with it.Myths! what age are you? or were you spoon fed growing up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,207 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Myths! what age are you? or were you spoon fed growing up.No need for insults. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,621 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It's seems obvious that there is a connection between Catholics and Glasgow Labour or is it just a coincidence?Has there been years of discrimination where appointments/selections were influenced by the religion of candidates for election or senior positions within GDC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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