VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,321 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I admire Malverns passion in standing up for all that has been eroded over the years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I admire Malverns passion in standing up for all that has been eroded over the years.What, by saying "what about them lot, officer?" How about we start to defend our own rights without eroding anybody elses? Or is that not possible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistleman 52 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 What's good for the goose Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,321 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Our rights come before all others, we use leniancy toward others as examples of bias. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 How many different ways can you phrase 'tit-for-tat?'Football fans in the West of Scotland are a bunch of point-scoring big weans. What the fuck happened to us...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Truth is, no cunt would be bothered even if it was a non-European flag like the Canadian flag or the Honduras flag...I mean, how many of us have waved Croatian and Dutch and Danish and Spanish and Italian and Bosnian flags over the years?Thanks for calling me a cunt, I appreciate that from a fellow bear.I do not care about the flags you mentioned, why should the red hand be cared about? Or for that matter why should a song asking the Irish-Scots to go home if they are not happy, or the Billy Boys?It is not us that care about these wee things in life so we should just be silent like we have for years? Let the wee pebble roll down the hill and become an avalanche. You may be able to allow a policeman to force a member of our British public to dispose of a perfectly legitimate flag (unless you can prove otherwise) or your arguement is flawed and your appeasing for them.The rest of your statements are just "Let aapathy be the way" to me, where the hell has that got us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 when a supporter of ours gets stopped at Ibrox with a Red Hand of ulster flag obtained from across the road at a licensed vendor, yeah i would say it is relevant. By what right did the Police stop him?Of course we could just say sh1t happens i suppose.It really pisses me of when this sort of shit happens and we're not smart enough for everyone to pull out their phone cameras and film this. Film everything, ask questions, ask for police numbers, ask what law etc. and do all this in a calm and non confrontational manner. I have a professional job but I would need to take a stand and risk getting the jail if they tried this with me. I love the Red Hand flag and I love the Union Flag and they are both worth fighting for.Check out the flag flying in the official fifa site:http://touch.fifa.com/world-match-centre/nationalleagues/nationalleague=northern-ireland-premiership-2000000003/standings/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiBunny 441 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 How many different ways can you phrase 'tit-for-tat?'Football fans in the West of Scotland are a bunch of point-scoring big weans. What the fuck happened to us...?I don't see this as TFT in this instance. It's basically just asking for a level playing field....and I suppose demanding action be taken on the tricolour in turn does act as a defence as it shows the powers that be that if they want to enforce this they have to follow it through ie. start banning tricolours.................. which will see all sorts of allegations of anti-Irish racism ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It is odd that they confiscated the flzg given that we had two players from Northern Ireland playing today. Answers are needed - well done Malvern! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I would also say that anyone complaining to Police Scotland about their shitty tricolour tomorrow will just come across as small minded. Complaining about the march is completely different though as our soldiers were in the middle of a war zone and had a very difficult job to do back then. Irish terrorism is resurfacing and this march is propaganda to their dirty cause and should never have been allowed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac4443 87 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 No blackmanredemption, your telling me what you think I should not be doing, which for me is standing up for our own in this issue.Oh yeah we can all cry in our beer that we were kicked to the third tier of the ars3 end of football, we can complain that we do not have the right board to run our institution, we can complain that Septic might get sporting advantage and everything their own way while we play on plastic pitches.God forbid we actually try and DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.Yeah alright, if your not interested don't fecking entertain it and move along.malvern you are saying what we all believe somebody else disny like it to bad more power to your elbow Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The Ulster 'Banner'(red hand Flag)was the governmental Flag of NI until 1972,when Stormont was suspended.Now Stormont is the devolved Govn once again,the Flag is legitimate.The Redhand is recognised world wide as the Flag of Northern Ireland and this treatment of it is pure Timmery.NS.PS, letter to Gregory Campbell MP in the offing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutonblue 1,974 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 malvern you are saying what we all believe somebody else disny like it to bad more power to your elbowthis Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesblue 42 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Take their three striped rags from them and build a bonfire, shocking we can't display flags of constituent nations but they get away with flying the flag of a foreign land, scumbags Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairo1 63 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 How many different ways can you phrase 'tit-for-tat?'Football fans in the West of Scotland are a bunch of point-scoring big weans. What the fuck happened to us...?BMR. I don't normally respond to what, in my opinion, are nit picking posts, but, I'm reluctantly making an exception here because I'm lost with your posts. Why should a legitimate flag of the United Kingdom be binned at the hands of the police, the people who are supposed to uphold order in this country. Do you really not see what Malvern is saying here? Don't you think taking this stance outside Ibrox could in itself be seen as inflammatory and cause offence. Because if you don't then Scotland really is fcucked. Please don't start nit picking this post or play point scoring, just ignore it if as you declare - you don't give a fluck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Why? If the Police state that bottles of juice are not permitted in the stadium and if they also state that the RHOU flags are not permitted, the refusal of either is the same.My point might be made in jest but it is simply put that if an item is not permitted at Ibrox, then unless the club push to change that, the club don't want it in the stadium either.Its not Police Scotland who state that bottles aren't allowed in its part of the terms and conditions of buying your ticket and applies equally to any bottle at any ground. Its seen as a safety issue and is quite different from not allowing a flag in because of its colours. I have never seen a regulation that bans the RHOU on safety grounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Its not Police Scotland who state that bottles aren't allowed in its part of the terms and conditions of buying your ticket and applies equally to any bottle at any ground. Its seen as a safety issue and is quite different from not allowing a flag in because of its colours. I have never seen a regulation that bans the RHOU on safety grounds.Regardless of the grounds in which an item is banned, if it is banned - it is banned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairo1 63 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Regardless of the grounds in which an item is banned, if it is banned - it is banned.Who says the RHoU is banned? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Who says the RHoU is banned?Obviously the police who removed it today? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Rfc 557 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 There's a big difference with a bottle and a flag. You can exactly skelp a player on the park with a flag now can you. Nonsense comparison Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid6 77 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Next week, 1st Feb everyone should take along a red hand of ulster flag to Ibrox. This would mean the police Scotland action today will have spectacularly back fired on them.Image, Ibrox full of Northern Ireland flags in the name of Police Scotland. I wonder how their colleagues in the PSNI feel about their actions today?Ps did the flag they removed have any additional lettering upon it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowrangersno1 468 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Are we talking about the national flag of NI or something else? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The RHOU is not the national flag of Northern Ireland and has not been since 1972.However, I do not understand why it would be confiscated or deemed offensive by anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ 743 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 There's a big difference with a bottle and a flag. You can exactly skelp a player on the park with a flag now can you. Nonsense comparisonThe comparison is not with the object but the decision by law enforcers.By the way, my wife was refused entry with a Capri Sun - can you skelp a player with a pouch of juice too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairo1 63 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Obviously the police who removed it today?Canny be that obvious or the vendors widnae be allowed to sell them. I think yer guessing that this police officer has the law on his side, I will ask the question before I say yer definitely talking shite but I think you are talking shite that the RHoU is banned because 'obviously' I have not heard about that law being introduced onto the statute or Rangers declaring that The RHoU is banned from Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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