Blue72 1,097 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I've written the following letter to the Herald Scotland after reading their article about the FAC campaign to put Roll of Honour to the top of the I-Tunes chart.Before anyone gets wide and types "bears den?" - it is important that we as the Rangers support keep up the pressure on the media, politicians and make our views heard about what is and isn't acceptable to us.If you want to keep up the pressure write a letter to letters@theherald.co.ukDear Sir,The article published in the Herald Scotland on 14th February entitled “Chart Success for Celtic Fans” was not an acceptable piece of journalism and offered no objective analysis of the wider context of the campaign by FAC (Fans Against Criminalisation).Although the article mentioned that the song is an “Irish Rebel Song” that has been “banned at Scottish football matches” it is in fact a song which sung in any public context may in fact be deemed to cause distress and alarm to any decent minded people who do not accept celebrating terrorists and convicted murderers, regardless of their ideology, appropriate in Scottish society.Your article failed to mention that Fans Against Criminalisation is made up solely of Celtic fans and its core aim is to fight the attempts of the criminal justice system to convict those that breach the peace and incite disorder by singing songs commemorating men who have killed British and Irish citizens.Part 1, Section 1 of the provisions of the Terrorism Act 2006 prohibits indirect encouragement of terrorist acts and states that this includes, "every statement which glorifies the commission or preparation (whether in the past, in the future or generally) of such acts or offences; and is a statement from which those members of the public could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated by them in existing circumstances.”Section 2 prohibits, "the dissemination of a publication which is either (a) likely to be understood as directly or indirectly encouraging terrorism, or (b) includes information which is likely to be understood as being useful in the commission or preparation of an act of terrorism.”The song mentions by name several well known and convicted terrorists, closing with the line, "Remember, our deaths were not in vain.Fight on and make our homeland a nation once again !” The closing lyric of this song urges listeners on to fight in the manner in which the named terrorists have done so and clearly, after reading the excerpts from the Terrorism Act 2006, is clearly in breach of this. The maximum sentence for each of these offences is seven years in prison.At the very best this song is offensive and most likely illegal if a challenge was made through the courts. The fact that the Herald newspaper gave no comment or analysis of this new story is unforgivable and it must be assumed that, risking the fall out that might be caused by criticism of this song from groups like FAC, ‘ Irish diaspora’ associations and certain politicians, the newspaper has shed its responsibility to comment and cowed to the belligerence of groups who are supporters of murder as a means of progressing political aims.Regards,xxxxx xxxxxx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Fuck the ira, the pope and the Fenian brotherhood Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Fuck the ira, the pope and the Fenian brotherhoodThis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Fuck yer iraMon the sons of the magnificent William Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 look out, RFC52 is aff his tits again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 look out, RFC52 is aff his tits againHe hates the tims ohhhhhhh ohhhh rfc52 he hates the tims Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 RFC on the rampage tonight it seems. Well in OP. Slightly off topic but my boys are playing in Coatbridge on Sunday morning resplendent in their Orange tops, which should go down well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,515 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The Gherald will not print this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 RFC on the rampage tonight it seems. Well in OP. Slightly off topic but my boys are playing in Coatbridge on Sunday morning resplendent in their Orange tops, which should go down well.In about them mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue72 1,097 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 The Gherald will not print this.No doubt. I've also contacted apple customer services to make them aware they are hosting potentially illegal material likely to be seen to be inciting terrorism.Next step Police Scotland.But seeing as apple's offices are registered to a certain country and Police Scotland are run by Nats I don't hold out hope. If enough of us did this we'd get somewhere.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 In about them mateAlways mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 No doubt. I've also contacted apple customer services to make them aware they are hosting potentially illegal material likely to be seen to be inciting terrorism.Next step Police Scotland.But seeing as apple's offices are registered to a certain country and Police Scotland are run by Nats I don't hold out hope. If enough of us did this we'd get somewhere....Apple are doing fuck all mate, me and Phil have tried, Phil more so shower of bastards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,515 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 They have printed a condemnation in Belfast. A victim's group has written to the bheats demanding their condemnation of this initiative!http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/anger-at-celtic-fans-support-for-song-glorifying-hunger-strikers-1-5879323#.Uv68UwCAW4M.twitter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 They have printed a condemnation in Belfast. A victim's group has written to the bheats demanding their condemnation of this initiative!http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/anger-at-celtic-fans-support-for-song-glorifying-hunger-strikers-1-5879323#.Uv68UwCAW4M.twitterWell highlighted BNB Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue72 1,097 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Apple are doing fuck all mate, me and Phil have tried, Phil more so shower of bastardsPolice is the last option. But I'm not keen on that because it won't do nothing and it tends to come back on you from that lot so to speak.There's not even any MSPs that might take this up. SNP no doubt love the song, Labour love the song, Tories will see it as the petty squabbles of poor folk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Hadn't even heard about this until the other day, really shows just how safe they feel that they would push this so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,515 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Well highlighted BNB It must be done. If the MSM will not touch it, we will find who does! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Police is the last option. But I'm not keen on that because it won't do nothing and it tends to come back on you from that lot so to speak.There's not even any MSPs that might take this up. SNP no doubt love the song, Labour love the song, Tories will see it as the petty squabbles of poor folk.Need to go above apple. Pm "Phil" he's doing a great job mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,515 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The sun have something but I am not fucking paying to read it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue72 1,097 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Hadn't even heard about this until the other day, really shows just how safe they feel that they would push this so far.That's what is worrying, and if you read the offences in the Terrorism Act it's blatantly illegal to publish the song and yet no-one does anything.Imagine the outroar if we pushed to get certain songs up there on iTunes, we'd be rounded up and up against the wall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The sun have something but I am not fucking paying to read it.Probably how fucking good it is, beeling describes how I feel. BNB would Fenian bastards be a good description this time since it's about a Fenian movement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,643 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Phil is reading hope he posts he's a good lad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 1,150 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 No doubt. I've also contacted apple customer services to make them aware they are hosting potentially illegal material likely to be seen to be inciting terrorism.Next step Police Scotland.But seeing as apple's offices are registered to a certain country and Police Scotland are run by Nats I don't hold out hope. If enough of us did this we'd get somewhere....I'm half asleep just now, but once I'm up in the morning I'll PM you all my correspondence with Apple and a few email addresses for their UK managing director and head of PR Need to keep it up, the Herald are also getting a lot of complaints about this apparently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,515 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Probably how fucking good it is, beeling describes how I feel. BNB would Fenian bastards be a good description this time since it's about a Fenian movement?It could be argued, I guess since the context may be right.But if you want to be without doubt just refer to them as fucking dirty, scummy terrorist loving bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 1,150 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Phil is reading hope he posts he's a good ladAw shucks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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