MrMccoist 204 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 When you think of a waste of talent you tend to think on Charlie Miller (welcome to any other suggestions Derek Ferguson?)But just how good could he Miller have been if he screwed the nutworld class? SPL Class? Top League Abroad Class?Just watching some 95/96 footage and he was shit hot when breaking throughBut how good could he have been? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Could have been excellent, but I'm not sure how far he could have gone. Him befriending gazza etc was his downfall. When I think of wasted Rangers talent I think of Durrant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMccoist 204 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Could have been excellent, but I'm not sure how far he could have gone. Him befriending gazza etc was his downfall. When I think of wasted Rangers talent I think of Durrant.Aye I exclude Durrant as you file that under not his fault.Whereas I mean with Miller it was very much his own love of the bevvy and the company he kept.Durrant is the best natural talent ive seen us produce in my lifetime. Its difficult to see how tell how far Miller could have gone . Perhaps a top SPL player and a scotland international with far more caps than one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The only limit on Charlie Miller's potential was Charlie Miller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Mind him bursting on the scene at the first old firm game when Piggery getting rebuilt and they were at Hampden he was superb only second to Laudrup as man of the match Dunno if he soon thought he made it after that Couple of boys I know played against him at Rangers reserves level 1992/1994 and they told me he was superb an absolute ned but superb talent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Brought up in castlemilk as a tarrier, saw the light but being dragged up in a community of jakey bams will always have an impact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggleskelly 3,772 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I seen Charlie Miller walking down cambuslang Main Street puffing on a fag a couple of weeks ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Brought up in castlemilk as a tarrier, saw the light but being dragged up in a community of jakey bams will always have an impact.Correct a jump the dyke but his alliances are defo with us I've been next to him at the Rangers end at piggery before and my mate said to him "you sure your in the right end" and he replied "are you? You look like one a them" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I vaguely mind Advocaat saying something along the lines of he could have been one of the greats. What a waste. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMccoist 204 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I vaguely mind Advocaat saying something along the lines of he could have been one of the greats. What a waste.Aye but DA gave him what half a season before chucking him down to watford.Obviously didn't screw the nut Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Correct a jump the dyke but his alliances are defo with us I've been next to him at the Rangers end at piggery before and my mate said to him "you sure your in the right end" and he replied "are you? You look like one a them" Doesn't matter who they grow up supporting as long as they give their all in the shirt.Unless it's Chris Burke, Ross McCormack or Kyle Hutton of course! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,781 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Believed his own hype and a lazy uninterested boy.Wasted it because he thought he was a big shot before he actually achieved anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Brought up in castlemilk as a tarrier, saw the light but being dragged up in a community of jakey bams will always have an impact.You're a cock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Back in the day, i was a regular at the reserve and youth games and Charlie was an absolute standout. I used to tell all the guys on our bus that this boy was going to be our future. Charlie will tell you himself that he was very easily influenced and i think growing up in a dressing room with some bad influences didnt help him. He once got dropped from a Semi Final because the older players had sent him to the bookies to put all their coupons on and Archie Knox walked in and physically dragged him out and marched him back to the Hilton where Watty told him to GTF.I believe if he was coming through the now, he would be in a completely different place.Having said that, the stories he can tell about The goalie, Ally, Gazza, Derek Ferguson, Durranty and him are amazing. Its hard to imagine actually, just how good we were back in the day considering some of the shit our players used to get up to, though im sure that happened in every dressing room. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The one that surprised me (the wrong way) was George McLean. I hoped for great things from him when we got him from St. Mirren but he never really made it. Perhaps being played out of position had something to do with it. Will Rangers never learn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You're a cock.Ouch, that cut deep Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I played against him at school level and Miller was miles ahead of any player I had seen, my school had some really good players but none of them were even a million miles near Miller, there were rumours he had failed an internal drug test and that's why he was suddenly sent down to Watford and I know he was caught in the Savoy with Ectasy on him in the toilets, hard to say how far he could have went maybe not a first team Man UTD player but I think he could have got into 1 of the bigger clubs in England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Miller a cross between Durrant and Barry Ferguson imo.Swally and Gazza's arrival were his downfall.Had a great spell with Dundee utd but defo an underachiever considering his talent.Seen him at 16 playing for reserves at Ibrox and he was in a different league from everyone else on the park .Had a great football brain on the park but like Gazza had a ned's brain off it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersFanBase 611 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think Charlie Miller fell into that category of "Think they've made it" sort of players. Bursting into the first team, putting on a few good shows, and then thinking they're the Bollox, whilst clowning around with the likes of Gazza and hitting the booze, ruined himself. Such a shame too, he'd of been outstanding if he'd kept putting in 100% Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davger 52 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Off topic a bit as I know he did make it,but big Dunc's departure from us always rankled with me. I just knew he would be quality but then all the other trouble maybe made it impossible for him to stay, just thought it may calm down then we would see the best of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Off topic a bit as I know he did make it,but big Dunc's departure from us always rankled with me. I just knew he would be quality but then all the other trouble maybe made it impossible for him to stay, just thought it may calm down then we would see the best of him. If we'd signed big Dunc and loaned him back to Utd till big Hateley left then Jim McLean may have sorted him out but i agree it's sad we never got to see him in full flow at Gers caus he was a top player . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,141 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I played for Rangers boys club at same time as Charlie, best I've seen at any age level.He only played in certain games, the rest of the time Rangers worked on his fitness/stamina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Could have been excellent, but I'm not sure how far he could have gone. Him befriending gazza etc was his downfall. When I think of wasted Rangers talent I think of Durrant.Bit strong to blame Gazza is it not. Charlie Miller was a very talented individual who found 'getting pished' something he appeared proud of. I recall one evening Durie having to pour him into a taxi. This was on an evening out for the full 1st team squad and only one player was OTT. Yep pity but I reckon CM would have self-destructed without Gazza's assistance.Wasted talent Durrant - more butchered than wasted -- heartbreaking to see a guy so talented and COMMITTED not realizing his full potential due to an animal.Derek Ferguson - IMHO - a better player than his brother - never reached full potentialJohn Macdonald -- ditto DF - great talent but another 'what if' type character Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,353 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Brought up in castlemilk as a tarrier, saw the light but being dragged up in a community of jakey bams will always have an impact.Fuck all wrong with cmilk. As for CM, played against him once when l was 12 and even back then everyone knew he had something special. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think Charlie Miller fell into that category of "Think they've made it" sort of players. Bursting into the first team, putting on a few good shows, and then thinking they're the Bollox, whilst clowning around with the likes of Gazza and hitting the booze, ruined himself. Such a shame too, he'd of been outstanding if he'd kept putting in 100%What age are you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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