Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 One member one vote is flawed too as it will become propaganda wars like we seen in the build up to the AGMOur fans are too easily influenced from the media to rebels and blazer chasers - they successfully got almost everyone to a man at Ibrox turning on the "spivs" with sheer liesThis will become a massive continuation of all these same dirty politics IMO one person one vote it doesn't even matterwhereas the last AGM with capitalists scrabbling about wasn't in any way a propaganda war.....right ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 whereas the last AGM with capitalists scrabbling about wasn't in any way a propaganda war.....right !I don't think you have a clear grasp on reality never mind capitalism or propaganda Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I don't think you have a clear grasp on reality never mind capitalism or propagandayou said that fan ownership would lead to a propaganda war at AGM'sI put it to you that under the present ownership there already was a propaganda war at the AGM so your point is null and void.Now why don't you answer the question instead of trying to derail the argument with idiotic insults Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 you said that fan ownership would lead to a propaganda war at AGM'sI put it to you that under the present ownership there already was a propaganda war at the AGM so your point is null and void.Now why don't you answer the question instead of trying to derail the argument with idiotic insultsWhat propoganda were the current Board and owners puting out pre AGM ? Genuine question by the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 There was no propaganda war til the rebels started one with their smear campaigns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 you said that fan ownership would lead to a propaganda war at AGM'sI put it to you that under the present ownership there already was a propaganda war at the AGM so your point is null and void.Now why don't you answer the question instead of trying to derail the argument with idiotic insultsThere was no propaganda war from the board or investors ya fuckin nutter only the occasional statement on the website refuting some of the proven lies and smears that were driving the share price down Honesty waken up and step into the real world Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Any propaganda war was absolutely started by the requisitioners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Any propaganda war was absolutely started by the requisitioners.100% fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Any propaganda war was absolutely started by the requisitioners.thank you for confirming that there WAS a propaganda war Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 thank you for confirming that there WAS a propaganda warYou were saying it was the board though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 There was no propaganda war til the rebels started one with their smear campaigns.thank you for confirming there WAS a propaganda war Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 If you consider the board issuing statements responding to the rebels lies in their defence propaganda of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 You were saying it was the board thoughthis is what I said"you said that fan ownership would lead to a propaganda war at AGM'sI put it to you that under the present ownership there already was a propaganda war at the AGM so your point is null and void."dolly English class at school I take it ?you know the cunts that canny read Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 this is what I said"you said that fan ownership would lead to a propaganda war at AGM'sI put it to you that under the present ownership there already was a propaganda war at the AGM so your point is null and void."dolly English class at school I take it ?you know the cunts that canny read"Under the present ownership".The propaganda didn't come from them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 With JH's atitude to the Establishment, I bet he cringes every time he hears GSTQ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govansw1 326 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Aye, you're right. It should have went into another thread. What's it got to do with SDS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Aye, you're right. It should have went into another thread. What's it got to do with SDSNot sure if serious but it's a question about the SDS ya walloper Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 This has happened in some places (the MyFootballClub ownership of Ebbsfleet is an example), I don't think fan ownership is necessarily workable but fan representation should be achievable and workable. The nature of the representation is the key. Personally I would look to bring soeone in with the best skill set (maybe someone like Gordon Smith) to represent fan interests on the board. Then a one member one vote set up to decide what the fans want to bring to the table.DDs dropping off would not change the value of the share holding and would only be an issue if the club were 100% fan owned and relied on the income to operate day to day. Any funds not used for buying shares should be ringfenced (other than admin costs) for capital purchases and Rangers should make a request for funding then the membership decides on the case put forward.What I wouldn't want is the 'blazer chasers' using this scheme as a way to get their feet under the table. We would need, and deserve, someone who is professional and understands their responsibilities to the fans but also their duties as a board member.Only One Man and only would I support with this Scheme.Sandy Jardine legend.He without doubt Loves our Club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govansw1 326 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Serious. Think you mean rangersfirst.org. Further down the line SDS wont be involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 govansw1. Oh aye. Shit in the pan then fuck off without flushing it. Can't get sttraightforward answers fron rea. Definate smell of the bheast there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govansw1 326 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Corky. I'm listening to RangersChat. No good at multi tasking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 "Under the present ownership".The propaganda didn't come from them.who cares where the propaganda came fromthere was propaganda on both sides..............it's not a reason for being against fan ownership Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Never been one to support fan ownership.It's not that I'm inherently against the idea, but I have never been convinced that it's viable (at least not within our fractious support)Having said that, someone having ~80% of shares and complete control (or as much control as 80% gets you) doesn't sit well with me eitherI would also say that I fully support fan representation, but to be honest, a lot of what I've read from fan groups and 'what the majority of Rangers fans want' isn't actually what I want, so I'm not sure whether that would work either (as I said, fractious)In short, as long as I have the team to support and we're moving forward, I'm happy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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