Douglas Cameron 179 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 The thread on Billy Davis has set me thinking about just how painfully obvious the suggestions for Rangers manager always are. Do they really need to be ex-players or at a stretch Scots we know/believe to be Bears?Billy Davis, Terry Butcher, Derek McInnes… each one has had success but equally can't dodge notable failures on their CVs. A cup win here, promotion from a lower league there but no experience of handling the pressure of a genuinely big club, no real experience in Europe.We need someone to do what Paul Le Guen tried to do and overhaul the culture of the club, the style of play, the scouting network and the youth academy. We need a back room staff and youth coaches there on merit not because our list of potential appointments (rarely) stretches beyond guys the current manager has worked/played with.There can't be many who wouldn't agree the last couple of years have been a missed opportunity. If we are to have any chance to return to the standards of previous years the professionalism of the club simply must be improved. Constantly talking of "2 or 3 more players" will take us nowhere. Work with what you have and improve what is coming through.I don't think I'm saying much that most of the board wouldn't agree with. Criticising is easy though, coming up with realistic suggestions far harder. So let me stick my neck out...Glen HoddleHear me out… The guy has managed big clubs. He has also had success (Swindon) with a small club. He has managed his country at the World Cup and indeed only lost his job due to his religious views. He knows how to handle the press. He tries to play good football and seems like a football intellectual who understands crazy concepts like tactics and using subs to change the shape/pattern of a game.Most importantly for me is the football academy he established in Spain to give discarded players a second chance - Ikechi Anya being the most obvious example I can think of. He has seemingly turned down jobs before because this is his focus. Could he say no to one last big job? A club crying out for a youth development focus?Feel free to shoot me down. If you do though please suggest an alternative and why you think they represent the radical change most of us crave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Ian Durrant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I dont think 'most of us' crave radical change. I think 'most of us' Rangers supporters are happy with a Rangers manager who has an almost 80% win rate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well the next one is crucial and has to be well thought out. No more rookies please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I dont think 'most of us' crave radical change. I think 'most of us' Rangers supporters are happy with a Rangers manager who has an almost 80% win rate.You speak for yourself, you have no clue what 'most of us' think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,748 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 There's a reason that Hoddle hasn't managed in nearly a decade. He simply isn't very good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 You speak for yourself, you have no clue what 'most of us' think.And in a stunning piece of irony you manage to agree and disagree with me at the same time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Cameron 179 Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 There's a reason that Hoddle hasn't managed in nearly a decade. He simply isn't very good.According to him he has turned down 20+ opportunities to focus on the academy.I have no particular liking for Hoddle I just think he is an interesting candidate who meets a lot of my criteria.We've not progressed in how we play or think about the game in two decades. Football has moved on.Maybe we could really go mental and have someone like Hoddle as Sporting Director and someone else as head coach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 And in a stunning piece of irony you manage to agree and disagree with me at the same time You clearly stated 'most of us' which is complete gueswork is it not?What do you base this on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 You clearly stated 'most of us' which is complete gueswork is it not?What do you base this on?You're doing it again mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 You clearly stated 'most of us' which is complete gueswork is it not?What do you base this on?It's that reading thing again GF, if you look at the OP you will see that he states 'most of us', I used this phrase, putting it in quotation marks to emphasise that I was quoting it, and emphasising that the OP could not possibly speak for 'most of us'. I was being facetious, you were just being a bit dim. Situation normal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 It's that reading thing again GF, if you look at the OP you will see that he states 'most of us', I used this phrase, putting it in quotation marks to emphasise that I was quoting it, and emphasising that the OP could not possibly speak for 'most of us'. I was being facetious, you were just being a bit dim. Situation normal Both sides who say 'most of us' are way off the mark. The OP and anyone who try to get a guage of what the fans on a whole think base it on nothing.It changes on here game by game. One loss or draw and the number jump to one side then again same when we have a good result or display. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well the next one is crucial and has to be well thought out.No more rookies please.Aye those rookie managers have worked terribly for us in the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Aye those rookie managers have worked terribly for us in the past.I'm not talking about the past, i am talking about currently.Ally McCoist has showed nothing in his time here to suggest to me he can get our place back at the top. He made an arse of it when we were on a equal footing with them never mind being where we are now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnstone Burgh 1,637 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I dont think 'most of us' crave radical change. I think 'most of us' Rangers supporters are happy with a Rangers manager who has an almost 80% win rate.I can guarantee you 'most of us' aren't. Maybe if you ever went to a game you'd find out what 'most of us' think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Fathers Scarf 1,144 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 'Only lost his job due to his religious views'.He implied that people born with disabilities were paying for wrongs done in a previous life.Wouldn't let him into Ibrox never mind employ him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 According to him he has turned down 20+ opportunities to focus on the academy.He would say that though, wouldn't he? . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I can guarantee you 'most of us' aren't. Maybe if you ever went to a game you'd find out what 'most of us' think.I can guarantee 'most of you' can't read and 'most of you' have no idea how often I go to the game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Both sides who say 'most of us' are way off the mark. The OP and anyone who try to get a guage of what the fans on a whole think base it on nothing.It changes on here game by game. One loss or draw and the number jump to one side then again same when we have a good result or display.Eureka Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 He would say that though, wouldn't he? .There was a big push to get him in for Spurs before Shwerwood was appointed, I don't know if it was based on sentiment or actual belief he still has what it takes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'm not talking about the past, i am talking about currently.Ally McCoist has showed nothing in his time here to suggest to me he can get our place back at the top. He made an arse of it when we were on a equal footing with them never mind being where we are now.When has McCoist challenged with them on an equal footing? When Whyte was kidding us all on that we had millions to spend? Or later that season when we sold our best player and lost another to injury? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Cameron 179 Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 He would say that though, wouldn't he? .I don't disagree.Listen guys my bad for saying "most". I should have said "many" or "a sizeable section of our support". If you're happy to go on as we have been in recent times that's fine. If you want genuine change I'd welcome suggestions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanCurtis 155 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Im being serious when I say this, but I sometimes wonder if the PLG "revolution" wouldn't be ideal for now. A top to bottom overhaul, be professional, be fit, be serious....and adopt professional habits as a club and as staff.Would be very intersting...(never happen but still....) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Take McLeish back with Ferguson as a midfield coach and Weir as defensive coach. That or take Butcher when he inevitably gets the sack from Hivs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 When has McCoist challenged with them on an equal footing? When Whyte was kidding us all on that we had millions to spend? Or later that season when we sold our best player and lost another to injury?Before administartion. He had the same squad that Smith had which won the title the previous year. He already blew Europe twice, lost the lead in the SPL and got punted out the cup by Falkirk before anything happened.That does not fill me with optimism given how much the tables have turned now, we have also had 2 and a bit seasons of utter souless football being played which again leave me thinking he is 100% not the man for the job.We will not be on an equal footing for quite sometime unless a manager pulls a masterstroke and McCoist has proved thus far he isn't capable of such feats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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