Inigo 32,526 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I call it match fixing and beyond the pale. We might as well pack in if the integrity of the game cannot be relied upon. I'd hate it to be done to us so can't condone it in any form. Anyone guilty of such a thing should be prosecuted.Never said I'd condone it or that it should happen. All I said is it's not straight forward and it's not necessarily got anything to do with hate. I have a feeling that human nature would come in to play. If you don't have any motivation, and in fact all the motivation is against winning, it would be difficult to fight that. I think I would want Rangers to lose though, in our own interests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Actually think about it Go onI have mate. I think the whole concept is repulsive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 As opposed to us allowing the team who are already ahead of us in second place to get that money and go further ahead?I'm reading the question like its a team that shouldn't be there anyway like its a one off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I have mate. I think the whole concept is repulsive.So for the sake of losing one game you'd happily see Celtic wrap up another title and get 15m CL money Aye that's rational Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 So for the sake of losing one game you'd happily see Celtic wrap up another title and get 15m CL money Aye that's rationalIt's not one game is it though. The act would be repeated in future, as an act of revenge, probably at our expenseI truly believe you are being irrational. It still is just a game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 It's not one game is it though. The act would be repeated in future, as an act of revenge, probably at our expenseI truly believe you are being irrational. It still is just a game.In what way would it happen again and again if it's a one off?I think it's the most rational thing to do for the sake of Rangers and our superiority - no doubt about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I don't think you can look at it in this way. If you do it in this scenario what about other times will we end up with a game more about trying to hurt others than win ourselves? What happened to the. "beautiful game" ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue1872 463 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Quinty, ~Jordz and Jamie, must all be releated, surely? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I think it's the most rational thing to do for the sake of Rangers and our superiority - no doubt about itWhich only supports my theory that fans should never have positions of power at football clubs.If we have to resort to cheating, I'd walk away from the SPORT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 In what way would it happen again and again if it's a one off?I think it's the most rational thing to do for the sake of Rangers and our superiority - no doubt about itIt could easily happen again what if the next season it was the same would we throw the game again? Giving the sheep stick for lying down to the scum but this is the same mentality. Not for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I don't think you can look at it in this way. If you do it in this scenario what about other times will we end up with a game more about trying to hurt others than win ourselves? What happened to the. "beautiful game" ?I don't think he said it was about hurting others. He said it was about benefiting ourselves.The 'beautiful game' is riddled with immorality as it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I don't think he said it was about hurting others. He said it was about benefiting ourselves.The 'beautiful game' is riddled with immorality as it is.It sure is, as I know to my personal cost.So let's not make it worse. I thought Rangers were special and did things the right way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 It sure is, as I know to my personal cost.So let's not make it worse. I thought Rangers were special and did things the right way.I agree. And on balance I probably wouldn't want us to throw a game. But I can understand people thinking we should if it benefits us. As a fan, however, I'm fairly sure I'd want us to lose as I hate to see Rangers harmed. And it WOULD harm us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I agree. And on balance I probably wouldn't want us to throw a game. But I can understand people thinking we should if it benefits us. As a fan, however, I'm fairly sure I'd want us to lose as I hate to see Rangers harmed. And it WOULD harm us.Can't argue with that mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Can't argue with that mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 If their is nothing to play for I would gladly field an understrength team.I do hate the sheep and dundee hivs, but I totally loathe septic so it's ano brainer for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilstonloyal 186 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Did this not happen with Liverpool when man utd lost the league to Blackburn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Which only supports my theory that fans should never have positions of power at football clubs.If we have to resort to cheating, I'd walk away from the SPORT.It's not cheating if it benefits you in the ways being mentioned Think of the big picture Did Hibs cheat that day Helicopter Sunday? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Even better let me throw this in here Many on here keep telling me fuck the unbeaten run throw the kids in even if we lose a game they don't care as they think it will benefit us in the long run Stopping Celtic getting 15 million CL cash and adding to their dominance would benefit us a lot more in the long runWhat's the difference? There's none - it's both accepting defeat for something greater Some people buzz off being dignified and proper than actually doing something that will benefit us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,093 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Something very close to this happened back in 1982-3 where c....c , aberdeen and dundee utd were head to head for championship. The sheep came to Ibrox with 4/5 games to go needing a win to stay top and remember thinking it might be best to lose this. They took then lead but Gers went on to win ( not very often in those days ) 2-1 . When the last minute winner went in the whole place went wild , forgetting all about the league positions. So trust me , what you may plan before the game , gets blown away with the passion for wanting Rangers to win every time - no matter what the cost. As it happened united pipped the tims for the league that year anyway so it didn't matter . The sheep were only a point away too ( if I remember right ) and that win at Ibrox could have won them the league . . . . fuck ' em ! ! ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
285miles 499 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Throwing a game could land the club in deep s**t and the powers that be at Torbert Towers would push an investigation as far as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Throwing a game could land the club in deep s**t and the powers that be at Torbert Towers would push an investigation as far as possible.Maybe we should have carried out an investigation after they did it to us against Hearts but as usual we've no spine against them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Did this not happen with Liverpool when man utd lost the league to Blackburn?No, Liverpool defeated Blackburn 2-1 and the red scum drew 1-1 with West Ham Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 of Rangers in this hypothetical scenario:At a date in the future, the final game of the SPFL approaches. Aberdeen/Hibs/Dundee Utd/Partick Thistle take your pick are one point clear of Celtic at the top. Celtic play the bottom team and we have the top team at Ibrox. We cannot win the league no matter the result.Question - do we deliberately lose the game to ensure that Celtic cannot win the League? Question - would it make a difference to your answer above depending on which team was top?Please be sure that you understand what the words, hypothetical and ensure mean before answering this post.You don't half post some amount of pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinty 1,445 Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 You don't half post some amount of pish.Thank you very much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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