corkinator 611 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 I think we could have secured funding against the CL dosh, which would have kept the wheels spinning.It was guaranteed income, from even before that me and a most of my mates didn't want him as manager, losing a 15 point lead in 2 months secured that view and 2 years on, its still the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 It was guaranteed income, from even before that me and a most of my mates didn't want him as manager, losing a 15 point lead in 2 months secured that view and 2 years on, its still the same.Same here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 McCoist for ALL his faults is not to blame for us going into administration, to suggest as much is fucking laughable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 McCoist for ALL his faults is not to blame for us going into administration, to suggest as much is fucking laughable.your missing the point, if he wasn't so shit we may have avoided it, so IMHO he is partially to blame, of course he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 your missing the point, if he wasn't so shit we may have avoided it, so IMHO he is partially to blame, of course he is.Delaying it I thinks more accurate. It seems Whyte gambled on European income which is suicide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 your missing the point, if he wasn't so shit we may have avoided it, so IMHO he is partially to blame, of course he is.Whyte is to blame. We were £70m in debt at one point and missed out on CL football a few seasons running, it didn't effect a thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I blame godI blame the aliens who hijacked MH370 ---- Even they were brought here by Jaffa the Hutt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I blame the aliens who hijacked MH370 ---- Even they were brought here by Jaffa the Hutt.More likely Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 some topic title though eh?"If we had won the Ramsdens...."Fuck sake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 some topic title though eh?"If we had won the Ramsdens...."Fuck sake.How far we have fallen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Never know. If he wasn't such an incompetent coward of a manager and got through to the CL we might not have went into admin and went through this shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoniram 1,919 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The topic is the Raith game.He decided he had to line up 4-5-1 against the "mighty" Raith Rovers.He didn't change the shape or the personnel to counter the obvious failings in his team. Daly played 120 minutes carrying an injury as did Black.For that one game alone i would have booted him out. Instead it merely heaped further embarrassment on us under this so called manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I blame godI blame it on the fact that there is no God Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,202 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 We didn't, so there is no debate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 ......do you think we, as fans, would have had a different outlook than we do today?I kind of blame Ally McCoist for us going into Admin as if his team hadn't bottled it against euro minows to reach the UCL we would have been fine, most likely.AGAIN, his team bottling it against Raith has caused us to question EVERYTHING and I believe prevented people buying up season tickets as we've had enough dross.Ffs how far can you take your hatred of Ally - SDM shafted us by selling to the Charlatan Whyte - end of! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Ally had lost most fans before raith but the cup final was breaking point for the remaining ally defenders myself included. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 ......do you think we, as fans, would have had a different outlook than we do today?I kind of blame Ally McCoist for us going into Admin as if his team hadn't bottled it against euro minows to reach the UCL we would have been fine, most likely.AGAIN, his team bottling it against Raith has caused us to question EVERYTHING and I believe prevented people buying up season tickets as we've had enough dross.Being honest no, winning the Ramsdens would of been nice and not winning it is a scandal especially to lose the way we did but it would of changed nothing about how bad a footballing side we are and i cant see how it would affect the boardroom wars either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytes3 254 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 ......do you think we, as fans, would have had a different outlook than we do today?I kind of blame Ally McCoist for us going into Admin as if his team hadn't bottled it against euro minows to reach the UCL we would have been fine, most likely.AGAIN, his team bottling it against Raith has caused us to question EVERYTHING and I believe prevented people buying up season tickets as we've had enough dross.I think it would have helped paper over the cracks a little longer but the fundamentals of a team producing a poor product on a rgular basis and oding the bare minimum to get by would remain.If we had won it in style (and possibly not made a total bell end of ourselves by self destructing 3 times against DU) then we coudl at least show we had a team that had hte fight for the "big" games which would have reassured the support to an extent, but sadly that is not the case Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 ......do you think we, as fans, would have had a different outlook than we do today?I kind of blame Ally McCoist for us going into Admin as if his team hadn't bottled it against euro minows to reach the UCL we would have been fine, most likely.AGAIN, his team bottling it against Raith has caused us to question EVERYTHING and I believe prevented people buying up season tickets as we've had enough dross.How much money do you suppose we missed out on by not qualifying for the UCL? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearsinbath 95 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Que? He stole the Income Tax and NI money FFS! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 How much money do you suppose we missed out on by not qualifying for the UCL?£15m Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Que? He stole the Income Tax and NI money FFS!It wasn't as if there was money around to trouser!He just used the ST money, gate receipts, etc to pay players & such - there wasn't enough to go round, so he ducked the Crown payments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,845 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 "If we had won the ramsdens cup"?If ma maw had baws she'd be ma da. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
In walter we trust 228 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Ally had lost most fans before raith but the cup final was breaking point for the remaining ally defenders myself included.Fully agree mate , I think that this was our most embarrassing defeat in recent history and the sad fact is everyone at the game new what was coming Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 £15mHow much do you reckon we'd have got for Naismith, Davis, McGregor, Whittaker and Lafferty, when added to the Jelavic money? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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