Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Oh my. Just because he can play at the back doesn't mean he ever has for us, or ever will. When he plays even one second for us at the back then I'll consider including him among our defenders.so a player that HAS played at the back before, on numerous occasions cannot be counted as a covering centre half wonder what you thought when jig went to centre half, having not played there ever before Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieG54 812 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 So he will be a bench warmer with Luca whilst Jig Daly and McCulloch play as our 3 centre backs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 so a player that HAS played at the back before, on numerous occasions cannot be counted as a covering centre half wonder what you thought when jig went to centre half, having not played there ever before I thought 'hey look, Jig at centre half - never seen him play there for us before'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Always thought Zaliukas was a good player in the old days with Hearts, if he still has that going on, he will be a good signing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clan macrae 292 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Working in Haddington at the moment loads of Hearts fans on the site.Every one of them have told me he is a smashing CH.Jig is passed it Moshni is well London.We need a commanding CH that is a natural.He fits the bill.let's be honest Rangers don't have the cash to lay out on top class centre halfs.Some of you want to stop mumpin and just get behind our team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodebear 85 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Working in Haddington at the moment loads of Hearts fans on the site.Every one of them have told me he is a smashing CH.Jig is passed it Moshni is well London.We need a commanding CH that is a natural.He fits the bill.let's be honest Rangers don't have the cash to lay out on top class centre halfs.Some of you want to stop mumpin and just get behind our team.Spot on with this post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz 78 918 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 First game of the season Zal,Wallace,Black and Templeton score in a 4-0 win.Pleasing...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 First game of the season Zal,Wallace,Black and Templeton score in a 4-0 win.Pleasing......Now that would be pretty funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Why bother spending money training them then?Surely we should release all youth centre backs at the club? They are never going to become 'experienced pros' with a little loan spell here and there.Even Walter showed this with his introduction of the boy Wilson even though all he had was potential.Quite often they are introduced at full back then gradually moved to cb Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Quite often they are introduced at full back then gradually moved to cbwhen have we ever did that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Our senior squad is 25 players and that includes McGregor, Miller and Boyd and players like Luka, Gallagher and McKay who are now all classed as part of the senior squad.fuck me thats brutal given that more than half are not good enough for the premiership Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 fuck me thats brutal given that more than half are not good enough for the premiershipWhen did the Premiership turn into Serie A i must have missed all the superstars playing in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 fuck me thats brutal given that more than half are not good enough for the premiershipSo who are the 13 or more players not good enough for the Premiership? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 we include daly because mcculloch ended up there, plus daly is a centre half as well, so he can cover there for one or two games if neededand wether jig is a centre half or not, he's played there for a full season,so again we do have a total of 7 centre halves that are available for the first teamSurely then Seb Faure is a right back not a CB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Surely then Seb Faure is a right back not a CB.he was a centre half before joining us, he can cover there if needed in a desperate situation, so he counts as a potential centre half Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasa_Papac_No1_Fan 605 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 So who are the 13 or more players not good enough for the Premiership?Mckay, luca, foster, smith, galllagher, gallagher, aird, clark, daly, halkett, mohnsi, jig, murdoch thats my 13 going by the north scotland tour of the 25 not counting bouzid and zaliukas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 So who are the 13 or more players not good enough for the Premiership?FosterSmithJigMoshniShielsDalyPeraltaHuttonBlackFaurethere's 10 right away, i could include the likes of gasparotto, gallacher, mckay, crawford and other young boys in the first team as they havent had anywhere near enough games yet, and will likely not get them this season, to make them good enough for the premiershipso taking out the young guys, 10 imo wont be good enough to challenge for the premiership Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 he was a centre half before joining us, he can cover there if needed in a desperate situation, so he counts as a potential centre halfLee Wallace could move in one if needed too. Lets make it 8 cbs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 FosterSmithJigMoshniShielsDalyPeraltaHuttonBlackFaurethere's 10 right away, i could include the likes of gasparotto, gallacher, mckay, crawford and other young boys in the first team as they havent had anywhere near enough games yet, and will likely not get them this season, to make them good enough for the premiershipso taking out the young guys, 10 imo wont be good enough to challenge for the premiershipThe same Shiels and Daly who were nominated for the Scottish PFA player of the year award a 2 years ago?Faure made his senior professional debut in the same season as Luca. Why isn't he considered a youngster?Smith and Foster are able back ups and both already possess a winners medal from the competition they aren't good enough for.So does Kyle Hutton (although I do agree he isn't good enough)Jigs on the road out. I have a feeling he'll see much less game time this year.I think Peralta could do a good job at RB for us. Certainly wouldn't be any worse than Broadfoot or Whittaker were.Black will do fine in the Premiership. Again no worse than others who have played there for us and won league titles.Mohsni could be if he screwed the head a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Mckay, luca, foster, smith, galllagher, gallagher, aird, clark, daly, halkett, mohnsi, jig, murdoch thats my 13 going by the north scotland tour of the 25 not counting bouzid and zaliukasWell done on not counting two players who dont play for us.Several of those are still teenagers, Even the much vaunted Dundee United rarely play teenagers week in week out. Those players will unlikely be the core of our side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,327 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 FosterSmith *Jig *MoshniShiels *DalyPeraltaHuttonBlack *FaureSmith, Shiels and Black could all be good enough, whether they are is a differen't question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,500 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 The same Shiels and Daly who were nominated for the Scottish PFA player of the year award a 2 years ago?Faure made his senior professional debut in the same season as Luca. Why isn't he considered a youngster?Smith and Foster are able back ups and both already possess a winners medal from the competition they aren't good enough for.So does Kyle Hutton (although I do agree he isn't good enough)Jigs on the road out. I have a feeling he'll see much less game time this year.I think Peralta could do a good job at RB for us. Certainly wouldn't be any worse than Broadfoot or Whittaker were.Black will do fine in the Premiership. Again no worse than others who have played there for us and won league titles.Mohsni could be if he screwed the head a bit.shiels and daly are now 2 years older, daly is one sharp turn away from retiring and shiels has been so poor for us its hard to see where he'll fit in now, especially given that we'll likely play a 4-4-2faure has actually played decent amount of game time for our first team, but him being moved around the field alot means he hasnt been able to develop any sort of consistency etc, i actually think he could be a player but he'll never get enough CB time to show itsmith and foster will not be good enough for the premiership, well not good enough for a team wanting to win itperalta at right back? why? he hasnt been given much if any game time at his centre defensive mid position nevermind being a right back, certainly it wont be a chance ally will take moving a midfielder into defence, we'll see mcgregor at right back before peraltacant see where black will work for us, he hasnt really in 2 seasons imo, the ian black at hearts used to take games by the scruff of the neck (excuse the cliche) and dictate things, for us he just seems to drop deep, pick the ball off the centre halves and pass it wide (something the centre halves could easily do)moshni is a bombacare, i thought he was good at the start but as the season wore on his inability to concentrate for the full 90 was evident more and more, he's a goal a game against us in the premiership imothis subject wont ever be won though, its simply peoples opinions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowrangersno1 468 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 There is some amount of negative bollocks being spouted here.Yes we have a big squad, but we are a big club with a big fan base.Plenty of contracts are due up at the end of the season freeing up funds and space in the squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasa_Papac_No1_Fan 605 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Well done on not counting two players who dont play for us.Several of those are still teenagers, Even the much vaunted Dundee United rarely play teenagers week in week out. Those players will unlikely be the core of our side.Are they on the tour? As I said the 25 players that went up excluding the 2 players that are on trial, then I had to add daly as his knees are fucked. Also your question was what 13 players are not good enough, theres 13 players that arent good enough in my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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