1 sub yesterday - a failure to manage

[Albahighlander 0]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

[THEFISH 0]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

And young Lennon against ICT with 10 mins to go.

The man is a complete clown

[stevenage bear 5]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

Probably says as much about Sebo as it does Le Guen.

He was a complete waste of ?1.8m

[MikeBlue 136]

The bottom line was that to bring Sebo on he would have had to either take off Boyd or Novo or take off Sionko and play either Sebo or Novo wide. Frankly I didn't think that any of those options would have made us more likely to get a goal so I would agree with the decision not to bring anyone on.

So not tactically wrong IMO, but a serious indictment of the signing policy.

BTW, I don't think throwing on inexperienced youngsters like Lennon in that situation is a good idea either - they need to come on when we're 3-0 up.

[californiadreamin52 339]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

Do you remember this one albahighlander why the sudden change of direction and heart..... why the born again PLG apostle is it a case of dislike Ferguson that much that you are willing to put up with in your own word "a failure to manage" possibly Barry should have undermind the manager on this occasion.... change the tactic and brought on more subs. No one can lay at Barry`s door a failure to manage if we are to go alone with what PLG says.

[Eric_Caldow 60]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

Do you remember this one albahighlander why the sudden change of direction and heart..... why the born again PLG apostle is it a case of dislike Ferguson that much that you are willing to put up with in your own word "a failure to manage" possibly Barry should have undermind the manager on this occasion.... change the tactic and brought on more subs. No one can lay at Barry`s door a failure to manage if we are to go alone with what PLG says.

Excellent post.

This has to be the post of the week.

[Canadaready 9,437]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

Do you remember this one albahighlander why the sudden change of direction and heart..... why the born again PLG apostle is it a case of dislike Ferguson that much that you are willing to put up with in your own word "a failure to manage" possibly Barry should have undermind the manager on this occasion.... change the tactic and brought on more subs. No one can lay at Barry`s door a failure to manage if we are to go alone with what PLG says.

Excellent post.

GET IN THERE ERIC! I am behind you

[Danny 9]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

This is an utterly staggering post.

Very little around here has me lost for words but you've done it twice today.

[Canadaready 9,437]

It had bec ome patently obvious yesterday that there was no prospect of us scoring in the second half.

For Mr Le Guen therefore to only make 1 change therefore signalled to me that he has lost any concept of how to change things to try something different.

Bear in mind that he had available to him his most expensive signing of the summer - Filip Sebo at 1.8 million and yet he did not feel that he had anything to contribute to a team that had run out of ideas.

That to me was the admission of failure.

This is an utterly staggering post.

Very little around here has me lost for words but you've done it twice today.

the answer ---> :wacko:

[Albahighlander 0]

Exactly my point, Monday was the day when I believe PLG finally took the leadership issue by the scruff of the neck. My post after the Saturday game was appealing foir him to manage the club - 'A failure to manage' I called it.

My concern was that he was not making the really important decisions, well By God he changed that on the Monday.

On Monday he made the most important decision at our club since we decided to sign Maurice Johnston and in that moment my backing for PLG jumped 100 fold.

The consequent actions of Ferguson saw my backing for him fall 100 fold.

[Albahighlander 0]

and to emphasise the point

my first post on the subject of PLG v Barry

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I have been one of Mister Le Guen's biggest critics in terms of his inactivity.

I have been one of Ferguson's biggest supporters

I have seen no signs of progress under Le Guen, on Saturday I was furious at what I perceived as lack pf decision making on his part

Ferguson is without doubt the best player at our club

BUT

I am genuinely pleased that Le Guen has made a significant decision even if I am baffled by it.

Here is my thinking on it however,

This is as major a decision as anyone could make

It MUST therefore have had Sir David's backing

There MUST therefore be a plan B

IT IS significant that Gavin Rae is now club captain and that it was announced at the start of the transfer window.

I suspect tgherefore that there is about to be LE REVOLUTION with MAJOR spending and surgery

IF THAT IS THE CASE then we have to back the manager

IF NOT this club will implode and MURRAY OUT will become a revolution (and I say that as a 100% Murray backer)

I cannot criticise PLG for no decision making and then criticise major decision making

[californiadreamin52 339]

?I have been one of Mister Le Guen's biggest critics in terms of his inactivity?.

Yes he does move slowly with he revolutionary ideas

I have been one of Ferguson's biggest supporte"

?I have seen no signs of progress under Le Guen, on Saturday I was furious at what I perceived as lack pf decision making on his part?

Don`t think that was progress that was us stepping in the sh!te

?Ferguson is without doubt the best player at our club?.

First great decision by PLG Why drop your best player and weaken an all ready weak team

BUT

?I am genuinely pleased that Le Guen has made a significant decision even if I am baffled by it?.

Took him 3 or 4 months to make it so in 3 years he`ll have made about 12 or 15 decisions if were lucky or unluck..... to baffle us further

Here is my thinking on it however,

?This is as major a decision as anyone could make?

Look like a no brainer

?It MUST therefore have had Sir David's backing?

Must have had SDM backing depends how it was put to him ?

?There MUST therefore be a plan B?

What happened to plan A ?

?IT IS significant that Gavin Rae is now club captain and that it was announced at the start of the transfer window?.

Gavin Rae is just a poor unfortunate pawn in this why not select a player who has been selected every week injury permitting and therefore can hold down a first team spot or ever one of our new buys to kick start the brave new world of PLG

?I suspect tgherefore that there is about to be LE REVOLUTION with MAJOR spending and surgery?.

Major surgery does this include Boyd and any another player he does not like because I`m sure there must be a lot of players and managers at other club how do not see eye to eye but work throught it for the good of the club. With regards to spending that fills me with dread if his last little shopping trip is anything to go by or have you also changed your opinion on Sebo.

Do you think any player would come to Rangers in the knowledge the manager is only surviving on a game to game basis.

IF THAT IS THE CASE then we have to back the manager

?IF NOT this club will implode and MURRAY OUT will become a revolution? (and I say that as a 100% Murray backer)

So we now we keep PLG and get shot of Murray because it was his fault all along?

I cannot criticise PLG for no decision making and then criticise major decision making

PS enjoy your little debate??. nothing personal

[Albahighlander 0]

?I have been one of Mister Le Guen's biggest critics in terms of his inactivity?.

Yes he does move slowly with he revolutionary ideas

I have been one of Ferguson's biggest supporte"

?I have seen no signs of progress under Le Guen, on Saturday I was furious at what I perceived as lack pf decision making on his part?

Don`t think that was progress that was us stepping in the sh!te

?Ferguson is without doubt the best player at our club?.

First great decision by PLG Why drop your best player and weaken an all ready weak team

BUT

?I am genuinely pleased that Le Guen has made a significant decision even if I am baffled by it?.

Took him 3 or 4 months to make it so in 3 years he`ll have made about 12 or 15 decisions if were lucky or unluck..... to baffle us further

Here is my thinking on it however,

?This is as major a decision as anyone could make?

Look like a no brainer

?It MUST therefore have had Sir David's backing?

Must have had SDM backing depends how it was put to him ?

?There MUST therefore be a plan B?

What happened to plan A ?

?IT IS significant that Gavin Rae is now club captain and that it was announced at the start of the transfer window?.

Gavin Rae is just a poor unfortunate pawn in this why not select a player who has been selected every week injury permitting and therefore can hold down a first team spot or ever one of our new buys to kick start the brave new world of PLG

?I suspect tgherefore that there is about to be LE REVOLUTION with MAJOR spending and surgery?.

Major surgery does this include Boyd and any another player he does not like because I`m sure there must be a lot of players and managers at other club how do not see eye to eye but work throught it for the good of the club. With regards to spending that fills me with dread if his last little shopping trip is anything to go by or have you also changed your opinion on Sebo.

Do you think any player would come to Rangers in the knowledge the manager is only surviving on a game to game basis.

IF THAT IS THE CASE then we have to back the manager

?IF NOT this club will implode and MURRAY OUT will become a revolution? (and I say that as a 100% Murray backer)

So we now we keep PLG and get shot of Murray because it was his fault all along?

I cannot criticise PLG for no decision making and then criticise major decision making

PS enjoy your little debate??. nothing personal

Can you translate into English please ?

[Orangeclement 619]

To all the Whiney glory hunters why dont you fuck off and support someone else because with fans like you the club can only go one way.

in Fact i can't b arsed with this you all sicken me with your pish <angryy>

[californiadreamin52 339]

Sorry did I not put enough miss spelt work or like the other chap enough bad language to be understood so I will type this slowly.... what you said is in inverted commas or quotation marks and my reply is below it

[Orangeclement 619]

Sorry did I not put enough miss spelt work or like the other chap enough bad language to be understood so I will type this slowly.... what you said is in inverted commas or quotation marks and my reply is below it

the bad language emphasises my view towards the glory hunters and puts my point across very well i think and i didn't understand the tripe you wrote either

[californiadreamin52 339]

To all the Whiney glory hunters why dont you fuck off and support someone else because with fans like you the club can only go one way.

in Fact i can't b arsed with this you all sicken me with your pish <angryy>

I think as a survivor of The Ibrox disaster I have more than payed my dues and have a right to my opinion as do you

[Leiper 0]

Sorry did I not put enough miss spelt work or like the other chap enough bad language to be understood so I will type this slowly.... what you said is in inverted commas or quotation marks and my reply is below it

I think he is commenting on your grammar and punctuation rather than your spelling...I found it quite hard to understand as well

[THEFISH 0]

Jock Wallace must be turning in his grave...Murray has made RFC the laughing stock of British football, I never thought we would end up the same way as the scum in the 90s but here we have it

[cooper1989 0]

Exactly my point, Monday was the day when I believe PLG finally took the leadership issue by the scruff of the neck. My post after the Saturday game was appealing foir him to manage the club - 'A failure to manage' I called it.

My concern was that he was not making the really important decisions, well By God he changed that on the Monday.

On Monday he made the most important decision at our club since we decided to sign Maurice Johnston and in that moment my backing for PLG jumped 100 fold.

The consequent actions of Ferguson saw my backing for him fall 100 fold.

Dear oh dear Alba.

The point is... He didn't manage. And he has taken the easy way out by blaming the highest profile player -- who was probably his biggest critic. Bazza was just telling the truth -- and PLG can't deal wiht the truth.

Was it Barry who only made one sub? Is it Barry who tells who to warm up and get ready to get into the game? Is it Barry who kept picking Letizi and Papac and bought Sebo?

No wonder the guy was/is so frustrated. He can see what a pathetic, incompetent manager PLG is. And apparently, so can you.

'Sacking' Barry ain't the answer here. Sacking PLG might very well be. Getting them both on the same page is definitely a step in the right direction.

[Eric_Caldow 60]

Exactly my point,  Monday was the day when I believe PLG finally took the leadership issue by the scruff of the neck.  My post after the Saturday game was appealing foir him to manage the club - 'A failure to manage' I called it.

My concern was that he was not making the really important decisions, well By God he changed that on the Monday.

On Monday he made the most important decision at our club since we decided to sign Maurice Johnston and in that moment my backing for PLG jumped 100 fold.

The consequent actions of Ferguson saw my backing for him fall 100 fold.

Dear oh dear Alba.

The point is... He didn't manage. And he has taken the easy way out by blaming the highest profile player -- who was probably his biggest critic. Bazza was just telling the truth -- and PLG can't deal wiht the truth.

Was it Barry who only made one sub? Is it Barry who tells who to warm up and get ready to get into the game? Is it Barry who kept picking Letizi and Papac and bought Sebo?

No wonder the guy was/is so frustrated. He can see what a pathetic, incompetent manager PLG is. And apparently, so can you.

'Sacking' Barry ain't the answer here. Sacking PLG might very well be. Getting them both on the same page is definitely a step in the right direction.

Excellent post mate.

[J_RFC87 762]

Sebo is verging on a disastor anyway, ?2million could be put to much better use.

[Muff 245]

Sebo is verging on a disastor anyway, ?2million could be put to much better use.

Sebo is a disaster.

[J_RFC87 762]

Sebo is verging on a disastor anyway, ?2million could be put to much better use.

Sebo is a disaster.

He could do worse, history judges disastors.

[Albahighlander 0]

Exactly my point,  Monday was the day when I believe PLG finally took the leadership issue by the scruff of the neck.  My post after the Saturday game was appealing foir him to manage the club - 'A failure to manage' I called it.

My concern was that he was not making the really important decisions, well By God he changed that on the Monday.

On Monday he made the most important decision at our club since we decided to sign Maurice Johnston and in that moment my backing for PLG jumped 100 fold.

The consequent actions of Ferguson saw my backing for him fall 100 fold.

Dear oh dear Alba.

The point is... He didn't manage. And he has taken the easy way out by blaming the highest profile player -- who was probably his biggest critic. Bazza was just telling the truth -- and PLG can't deal wiht the truth.

Was it Barry who only made one sub? Is it Barry who tells who to warm up and get ready to get into the game? Is it Barry who kept picking Letizi and Papac and bought Sebo?

No wonder the guy was/is so frustrated. He can see what a pathetic, incompetent manager PLG is. And apparently, so can you.

'Sacking' Barry ain't the answer here. Sacking PLG might very well be. Getting them both on the same page is definitely a step in the right direction.

and how do you answer the fact that we never lose league games when someone other than Barry captains the side ?

a helluiva coincidence that.

and indeed Sebo is another disaster in the mould of previous disasters from all of our managers