The Louden Tavern 1,765 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 We will be collecting proxies in The Louden this Friday night at the televised game and also on Saturday !!am to 7pm and also Sunday 11am to 6pm, if you sign your forn and mark on it RF or RST, I will make sure it gets to the right people. let's get our votes in.RM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mongoose 1,007 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 What happens if you have already sent the form away? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 We will be collecting proxies in The Louden this Friday night at the televised game and also on Saturday !!am to 7pm and also Sunday 11am to 6pm, if you sign your forn and mark on it RF or RST, I will make sure it gets to the right people. let's get our votes in.RMWhat is the benefit of proxying votes?If I agree in which Rangers First will vote, then it makes no difference if I proxy or vote that way myself.If I disagree with the way Rangers First would vote, then why would I proxy my shares? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 What is the benefit of proxying votes?If I agree in which Rangers First will vote, then it makes no difference if I proxy or vote that way myself.If I disagree with the way Rangers First would vote, then why would I proxy my shares?The 'only' benefit I see is it gives a stronger position to those holding the proxy - so their voice may be heard - it's a different discussion if that is a good thing or bad.I am just sending my votes in - even tho' my replies will be identical to RF / RST. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 As a group you will have a much stronger voice. Though I appreciate that you might not agree with the results of any vote but that is democracy. It is great to see nearly 11k members Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Is the proxy collection a one off and only for the GM or is it for all future voting?I know it's Capita and it's supposedly straight down the line but I just don't trust the board 100% due to the London location and I would rather proxy but only if it's a one off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallochBear 1,613 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 As a group you will have a much stronger voice. Though I appreciate that you might not agree with the results of any vote but that is democracy. It is great to see nearly 11k membersYou need to explain that logic. If we all vote then we all have a voice dependent upon the number of shares each shareholder has so it doesn't give the individual any more say. If we proxy our vote to whomsoever then we are at the mercy of what way they choose to vote, is that not reminiscent of "Stalinist" type regimes. I would argue each shareholder makes up their own mind and sends in their proxy duly authorised or else attends the EGM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,095 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Already proxied(is that even a word) mine to RF.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Louden Tavern 1,765 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 The 'only' benefit I see is it gives a stronger position to those holding the proxy - so their voice may be heard - it's a different discussion if that is a good thing or bad.I am just sending my votes in - even tho' my replies will be identical to RF / RST.If the votes are with capita early enough then there could (should) be no need for the egm to be held if the votes pass the 50% mark.So the proxy helps make that simpler I think.GM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Louden Tavern 1,765 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 You need to explain that logic.If we all vote then we all have a voice dependent upon the number of shares each shareholder has so it doesn't give the individual any more say.If we proxy our vote to whomsoever then we are at the mercy of what way they choose to vote, is that not reminiscent of "Stalinist" type regimes. I would argue each shareholder makes up their own mind and sends in their proxy duly authorised or else attends the EGM.Well RF's vote is known at this stage (and was never really in doubt imo as its representative of the majority of the fanbase) - proxies only hold for one GM so I think comparing it to totalitarian regimes is a bit of a stretch lolStrengths in coming together as a collective go beyond GMs.If the previous average contribution has maintained with current numbers RF is raising well in excess of £1m a year that benefits the club (currently through the purchase of shares) and hopefully will continue to increase beyond the EGM.GM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 If the votes are with capita early enough then there could (should) be no need for the egm to be held if the votes pass the 50% mark.So the proxy helps make that simpler I think.GMBut that goes wether I proxy to RST / RF or just do it myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Louden Tavern 1,765 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 But that goes wether I proxy to RST / RF or just do it myself.As long as you post the vote in then yes I think you are right GM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 There's no obvious benefit of using a proxy over using a postal vote yourself other than removing the hassle of having to actually do the postal vote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 i've voted by proxy,and i never kept the form that gets me into the egm, how now can i get into the egm at ibrox without it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,178 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 i've voted by proxy,and i never kept the form that gets me into the egm, how now can i get into the egm at ibrox without it. Why would you want to if you have already voted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 because i just want too be thei r. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Louden Tavern 1,765 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 There's no obvious benefit of using a proxy over using a postal vote yourself other than removing the hassle of having to actually do the postal vote.I do think there are benefits over voting in person though so either postal vote or proxying is probably best at this time I would think.Just make sure and use your vote!GM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIE8CH 296 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 mines is slightly different to that of RF so I,ll post it myself. no use loosing my say by proxying my vote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I do think there are benefits over voting in person though so either postal vote or proxying is probably best at this time I would think.Just make sure and use your vote!GM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Louden Tavern 1,765 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Over 350,000 shares have been proxied to RF so farGM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Jock Wallace 858 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Sent mine off to RF yesterday. Each to their own but I want RF to grow from strength to strength & no better way to do that than grouping together Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1873bear 192 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'm attending can't wait to see the scummy rats depart with my own eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Is this proxy and one off ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,208 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You need to explain that logic.If we all vote then we all have a voice dependent upon the number of shares each shareholder has so it doesn't give the individual any more say.If we proxy our vote to whomsoever then we are at the mercy of what way they choose to vote, is that not reminiscent of "Stalinist" type regimes. I would argue each shareholder makes up their own mind and sends in their proxy duly authorised or else attends the EGM.I think the theory is: join an organisation run by supporters to buy as many shares as possible to increase fan ownership.Where does Stalin come into that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordov 17 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 We will be collecting proxies in The Louden this Friday night at the televised game and also on Saturday !!am to 7pm and also Sunday 11am to 6pm, if you sign your forn and mark on it RF or RST, I will make sure it gets to the right people. let's get our votes in.RMI have shares through RST, how do I arrange to proxy them? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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