thehost 11,061 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Yep - me to - despite voting yes - and for SNP and being an Athiest - go figure to be fair, as a corporate turnaround specialist your vote for Marxists is simply one of personal greed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 to be fair, as a corporate turnaround specialist your vote for Marxists is simply one of personal greed!Well at least your attempt at a put down is a bit more original then 'your a cunt' - now go back to bed before your head explodes with the effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 13,977 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Why out of interest? I always believe that even the most adamant believer in a republic must surely respect the way the Queen has gone about her service over all these years.Generally speaking that would be true. The issue is the system, not the person, specifically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluedoo 2,652 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Perhaps we could all at least try to use this ideology.True equality means holding everyone accountable in the same way, regardless of race, gender, faith, ethnicity - or political ideology.Monica CrowleyI regard myself as a Scottish Unionist, the independence debate for me was lost on Economics but that doesn't mean I claim any more of a right to be a Rangers supporter than anyone else. It has led to an intense self examination of my politics, my ideologies and my beliefs. I know what they are today but I also have the wisdom to know that this may change in the future, who knows? I think of Rangers as an inclusive, forward thinking club that welcomes all who wish to follow while stating quite clearly that its tradition and Ideals are steeped in Scottish representation within the Union. You only have to look at our remembrance day and armed forces day activities to see that. The Rangers tops that have contained symbols of both the Saltire and the Union flag. We Are The People 16BlueSherbert90 and Inigo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 we've got one tory mp in scotland but have a tory government running the uk - that's democracy eh?! Every single party only cares for "democracy" when it suits them don't be fooled to think it's an snp traithopefully now that labour have been absolutely humped by the system there might be more appetite for some electoral reform in westminster - first past the post only really works for a two horse race which we don't have looking at the share of votesScotland is part of Britain, where a democratic vote was held that went in the tories favour. All this "scotland doesnt get the government it wants" is pish,were part of a union and until Scotland votes for separation we'll get the government that the Union votes for. You can tell how bitter this makes you just from reading your post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Is it no time we shut this thread down election over get used to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyDawson72 213 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 The day things like that start happening is the day we start worrying but not because of a stupid, unrepresentive poll.We've had loads of saltire displays btwFor what it's worth I find the SNP abhorrent now. I used to quite like them but they are being slavishly followed by morons who continuously drown out any voice of opposition.They are going to get swallowed up in Westminster with some of the MPs barely able to string a sentence together.D-Cam will put the ball firmly in their court giving them full fiscal autonomy. This is where the SNP will finally be answerable to the electorate as with a near 7 billion deficit we will be blowing out our arses and have an economy worse than what happened in Ireland.Sturgeon is shrewd but so is Cameron. It's the ace up his sleeve and ultimately will blow the SNP away as their figures at best, are ridiculously off the scale.It's easy to sit and preach from afar shouting about austerity without being responsible for balancing the books. Now they will have to. They will be an utter embarrassment down there like 6 th form students being all shouty and trying to block everything regardless of wether it's good or bad. They only want one thing and that is independence at any cost.There is something quite sad seeing the Nats screaming at Labour politicians and supporters as if they were scum it's disgusting. Labour (of which I'm not a supporter) at least gave more to Scotland than the SNP ever have done with the nhs, votes for women, child benefits , working tax credits, devolution to name but a few. The sense of self righteousness and entitlement from nationalists is shocking but will make it even sweeter when the bubble bursts. Thankfully I'll be back living down under again away from this horrible little country for good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Is it no time we shut this thread down election over get used to it trains 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud72 117 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I was reading an article about the picture of the Queen in the Rangers dressing room and it mentioned the east football forum. I opened the link and up popped this bile;IrishArab111-04-2008, 11:22Its bullshit they have to force their 'traditions' down players throats though. I'd spit on that picture before leaving the dressing room I suppose all you 79er Natz will be happy with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 It probably took all of Sturgeons strength to not spit on the cenotaph at the memorial ceremony yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trains 588 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I've got this feeling that we will get another referendum for independence in the next 5-10 years.The reason why is because the Tories will have to, as they promised, have an 'In/Out' referendum, on EU membership. If there is a majority in England that vote to leave the EU, and a majority in Scotland to stay in the EU, then this will give the SNP, the opportunity to put the case for another independence referendum, as if England do vote to leave EU, then it's more than likely, with them being by far the largest country within the UK, that the result of the vote will be to leave the EU.Difficult argument to have as Scotland voted democratically to remain in the Union and therefore accepts the democratic choices of the Union. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 It's Ben a good debate but this is a football forum so ...Nicola Sturgeon?Yes!I would! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 won't be long before we have folk on here lionizing Gerry "semtex" Adamswe already have half the board bumming up "bomber" mandela so its a natural progressionWhat's Turnbull Hutton got to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Scotland is part of Britain, where a democratic vote was held that went in the tories favour. All this "scotland doesnt get the government it wants" is pish,were part of a union and until Scotland votes for separation we'll get the government that the Union votes for. You can tell how bitter this makes you just from reading your post.Blinded by your bitterness you have completely missed the point of my post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud72 117 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Nicola Sturgeon?Yes!I would! I see your taste in women is as good as your politics, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMT 546 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 won't be long before we have folk on here lionizing Gerry "semtex" Adamswe already have half the board bumming up "bomber" mandela so its a natural progressionI am a Unionist, fundamentally disagree with the SNP, but it's just ridiculous to slur fellow Bears with a different opinion like that.The SNP, with all their faults, want Scotland to achieve independence through the democratic will of the Scottish people. Irish Republicans tried to shoot and bomb the Northern Irish people into a unification with a country most of them found alien.Unfortunately, I believe that some plastic Irish Republicans have attached their support to the SNP. They don't give a fuck about Scotland or it's people, but their only aim is the destruction of everything British.. Bobby Hume, CottonRunt, Inigo and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Lorenzo 10 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Seems like Nick backed the wrong horse...got it wrongWonder how much more she'll get wrong?She pinned her colours to the labour mast and scared the shit out of the English labour vote, well done NickAnd BTW they may have won 94% of the seats but they only won 50% of the vote, meaning 50% of the vote didn't wantThe reason that the SNP backed working with Labour and not the Torries is that the parties stance on just about every major issue is fundementally different. Unlike the lib dems the SNP made it clear that their party could never work with the Torries due to austerity. My point is that had Labour stood against austerity like the so-called 'left wing party' that it claims to be they could have been the alternative party England was crying out for. As this wasn't the case they effectively set out their stall as less extreme Torries and surrendered the protest party status to UKIP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Never mind what team you support, not voting SNP should be a conclusion reached simply by the fact they're a bunch of raving loonies, sadly there is a good chunk of stupid and/or easily led people in Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Never mind what team you support, not voting SNP should be a conclusion reached simply by the fact they're a bunch of raving loonies, sadly there is a good chunk of stupid and/or easily led people in Scotland.I think you'll find they have their own political party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I think you'll find they have their own political party. Aye and I'd have voted for them to keep out the SNP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 As I said in another post 64% of the UK got a government they did not want - but that's our system and we all have to live with it.No we don't. We can demand change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Perhaps we could all at least try to use this ideology.True equality means holding everyone accountable in the same way, regardless of race, gender, faith, ethnicity - or political ideology.Monica CrowleyI regard myself as a Scottish Unionist, the independence debate for me was lost on Economics but that doesn't mean I claim any more of a right to be a Rangers supporter than anyone else. It has led to an intense self examination of my politics, my ideologies and my beliefs. I know what they are today but I also have the wisdom to know that this may change in the future, who knows? I think of Rangers as an inclusive, forward thinking club that welcomes all who wish to follow while stating quite clearly that its tradition and Ideals are steeped in Scottish representation within the Union. You only have to look at our remembrance day and armed forces day activities to see that. The Rangers tops that have contained symbols of both the Saltire and the Union flag. We Are The People Good way to put it, that. Seems reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Nicola Sturgeon?Yes!I would! I see your taste in women is as good as your politics, leave him alone, not many men would own up to wanting to shag the wee jimmy kramkie lookalike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud72 117 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 If the comments from a some internet mongo Irish Dundee Utd fan influence your decision for who to vote for in a general election, then I'm afraid I can't help you.Just felt you needed reminding who you are siding with, ref 79 group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 33,996 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Just felt you needed reminding who you are siding with, ref 79 group.a. I'm not siding with them. I voted No, and Consevative. b. Because he hates the queen doesn't mean he votes SNP, and voting SNP doesn't mean you hate the queenc. There are bawbags in all political parties, football teams and religions - because you hate an individual, doesn't mean you should hate what they support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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