BEE 4,880 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 The NIFL is a semi professional league, however I don't think that makes much difference. We have won more trophies than any other club in world football, does the fact that 54 of these 117 titles relate to winning a national league that is considered as a lesser league diminish the importance of them? I understand your point but I don't think it matters in the historic context. Linfield have actually won more titles/trophies than us but we are considered most succesful as they are semi pro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionMen 411 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 You are missing a Trophy that in it's time was as important as the League Cup or Scottish Cup. (I'll give you a clue; We are the record holders of it and will never be overtaken by the mhanks.) That's actually an u17's tournament now so technically we could be overtaken by bheasts :o Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 That's actually an u17's tournament now so technically we could be overtaken by bheasts :oTechnically we can't because since it went to youth games it is no longer counted in the records since the last senior final in 1989 when Partick Thistle defeated Clyde 2-0. The scum have won the Trophy 32 times and we have won it 51 times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 And the Scottish Junior Cup Or any of the junior leagues. Or any of the amateur leagues for that matter. We've got so much work to do here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dan Ey 48 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 We're dammed if we do and dammed if we don't. Not that I care what they think, but the yahoos will take the pish if we get knocked out and take the pish if we win it, such is the mentality of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 So what have we won 54 times?The Scottish top flight. We won it 47 times whilst the old trophy (now the Championship's) was in use. The other 7 times was with the new modern trophy, pretty simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 The Scottish top flight. We won it 47 times whilst the old trophy (now the Championship's) was in use. The other 7 times was with the new modern trophy, pretty simple.Not as simple as him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 So what have we won 54 times?The top flight. It's not really that hard to understand is it? But I'll go into retard mode just for you.The Scottish Football League (SFL) was founded in 1890. The Scottish Premier League (SPL) broke away from the SFL and started in 1998, for the 1998/99 season. The SPL commisioned a new trophy for the breakaway league, the same way the Premiership down south did when they broke away in the early 90's, as the SFL owned the trophy (it also owned the league cup). The old premier division pre-SPL days then became the first division. The trophy for winning the first division is the same trophy they used since 1890. We won that trophy 47 times, between 1890-1997. In 2014, the SPL and SFL merged, ending both organisations and become the SPFL. The SPFL now runs the Scottish football set up, and owns the trophies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 We've not lifted the Challenge cup before so naturally I want to see us do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionMen 411 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 The top flight. BOOM. Fucking idiot. How simple can it be, the Clean Sweep is every available competition in the country. On 1 hand you're saying we've already won it, then on another lumping it in with "top flight".It's really this simple;We've won the top flight 54 times.We've won the 4th tier once.We've one the 3rd tier once.Hey Sheep, or goat or donkey or whatever fucking farm animal you want to be called, answer this;how many times have Rangers won the 2nd tier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry739 267 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 In the 1921–22 season, Linfield FC achieved a clean sweep of all the domestic competitions they entered – the Irish League, Irish Cup, County Antrim Shield, Alhambra Cup, Belfast Charity Cup, Gold Cup and the City CupAND 7 trophies again in 1961-62 (although the North-South Cup was a carry over from 60-61 season!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 After last seasons fuck up let's just concentrate on the job in hand. Talk of clean sweeps, quadruples, how many goals we'll score etc has bitten us too many times the last 4 years.I expect MW to win the league, or at least win the play offs, and instil a structure that the club can build on for years to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 BOOM. Fucking idiot. How simple can it be, the Clean Sweep is every available competition in the country. On 1 hand you're saying we've already won it, then on another lumping it in with "top flight".It's really this simple;We've won the top flight 54 times.We've won the 4th tier once.We've one the 3rd tier once.Hey Sheep, or goat or donkey or whatever fucking farm animal you want to be called, answer this;how many times have Rangers won the 2nd tier?Your original post says trophies. We've lifted that trophy just in a different format as has been explained to you by more than one poster. You've now changed your post to say that the clean sweep is every competition because you've made an arse of yourself again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 BOOM. Fucking idiot. How simple can it be, the Clean Sweep is every available competition in the country. On 1 hand you're saying we've already won it, then on another lumping it in with "top flight".It's really this simple;We've won the top flight 54 times.We've won the 4th tier once.We've one the 3rd tier once.Hey Sheep, or goat or donkey or whatever fucking farm animal you want to be called, answer this;how many times have Rangers won the 2nd tier?You really are a mongo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 So what have we won 54 times?The highest division in Scotland. Until the Premier League began in the 70's, what is the Championship now was the highest division in the country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowsHisOwnSpunk 7,798 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I honestly couldn't give a fuck about a clean sweep its the same mistake mccoist and many of our fans made with obsessing over a meaningless unbeaten run in the league breaking his promise to give youth a chance once the league was won.Our long term future should take priority over a shitty little cup that no one could give a flying fuck about. Also there is no reason we cannot win the thing with a strong youth presence anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imodium 410 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Winning the Scottish Cup this year would be a massive statement of intent and progress made and would give us a crack at Europe.anything outwith that and the league would be a bonus imo.Happy with the signings, a few more decent bodies in and can see us strolling the league like Hearts done Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Said before we should be winning the challenge cup and the championship, and maybe even sneak one of the major cups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionMen 411 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 The highest division in Scotland. Until the Premier League began in the 70's, what is the Championship now was the highest division in the country."The highest division in Scotland" and what we currently compete in, are 2 entirely different things, unless what Hearts won last season you put on a par with our 54 wins.It's a different competition, a different tier, regardless of what hunk of metal they give the players to get a photo with at the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionMen 411 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 The division we currently compete in has a 122-year history dating back to 1893.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_winners_of_the_Scottish_Championship_and_predecessorsAny clown who thinks we've won it before, feel free to show me Rangers on the above list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,865 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 "The highest division in Scotland" and what we currently compete in, are 2 entirely different things, unless what Hearts won last season you put on a par with our 54 wins.It's a different competition, a different tier, regardless of what hunk of metal they give the players to get a photo with at the end of the season.Until the 70's the Scottish Football League Scottish First Division (which later became known as the SPFL Ladbrokes Championship) was the top tier in Scottish Football. Once the Premier Division began it became tier 1, the existing tier 1 became tier 2 and so on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyruff 622 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Wanted to win everything up until last seasons disappointments, now, I see the value and importance of promotion, so would settle for that.My expectations are still the same though and I expect Rangers to compete for everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,127 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Linfield are pish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnionMen 411 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Until the 70's the Scottish Football League Scottish First Division (which later became known as the SPFL Ladbrokes Championship) was the top tier in Scottish Football. Once the Premier Division began it became tier 1, the existing tier 1 became tier 2 and so on.Irrelevant to the point at hand.There is a 122 year history associated with the division we're currently in, show me where we are in the record books as winners?If we win the Petrofac cup this year and gain promotion via the play-offs then the 2nd tier of Scottish football will be the only one missing from the proverbial "Clean Sweep", as the official record books will show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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