chinaman 1 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 lets debate itim pretty certain there wont be any debate but crack onbring it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 What data was used in formulating the opinions and how many proffered an answer in the sample group? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumnockbear 2,446 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Do you have proof that most Rangers minded supporter disagees with RM ? Its healthy that not all think the same and keep each other on their toes rather than all being brainwashed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Because you give priests a wank with your arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 They do? In what regard? it's quite a broad bunch on here compared to Rangers outlets where they seem to me like they are pre-programmed, brainwashed and a bit sheep like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 What exactly is a Rangers minded fan? Is that not what a Rangers supporter would just call a Rangers supporter. Where as you.....fail fail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The OP has a negative rep btw, for anyone who can't see it.Anyone who still has a negative rep on here is as good as a paedophile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The OP has a negative rep btw, for anyone who can't see it.Anyone who still has a negative rep on here is as good as a paedophile.He was 20 when he had his first communion and they made him wear a wee white dress to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 RM.Outing the taigs for many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 He was 20 when he had his first communion and they made him wear a wee white dress to itMemorable day for him as it was the first time he swallowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 lets debate itim pretty certain there wont be any debate but crack onbring itI dont think you will find the debate you are looking for. Let's face it, it's an argument you want. However I will offer a responseThe mistake you seem to make is that RM is a single minded entity. I have only ever spent time on here and briefly on Gersnet so can't comment what other sites are like but RM is not a single minded entity. Here people are given a lot of freedom to say what they want to say. The Rangers support is a broad church and cuts across a massive swathe of society so it is inevitable that we get all sorts in our support. Now. Assuming other forums are less tolerant of opinions that differ from the single minded approach of their moderators then people who voice their differing opinions will soon be ostracised and either banned or leave of their own volition. They will soon end up here where they can speak more freely. But then because they have been marginalised from other forums, those other forums will resent that they have found somewhere to express themselves. There is no party line here. There is much argument and not a small amount of abuse hurled around and because of the free nature it is inevitable too that there will be timfestations from time to time. But the majority are good Rangers supporters some of whom can often have some unique viewsI joined here back in 2006. It has grown and grown due to the moderation and tolerance that allows all Rangers fans to express their views. It can be fucking annoying at times but why get annoyed about what some people are saying on an Internet forum? The great thing about the Internet is it is free for each of us to chose what we want to do. If You feel this is not the place for you then move on somewhere else. But if you don't like freedom of expression and you think that this makes a place out of step with your fellow fans then perhaps you should try moving somewhere more controlled. Like Iran or North Korea. Or Follow Follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Another sleeper account goes active Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'll not set myself up for a shit storm by going into too many details but in my honest opinion the topic statement is bang on.I genuinely believe a lot of the collective opinions on RM are not shared by most if not all the bears I know (and believe it or not there are many ).While there are many diverse opinions on a lot of Rangers subjects, when it comes to Houston,king boycotts ,Brown and Murray for eg I've found the vast majority of bears I've encountered have polar opposite views of RM.Must be admitted that any Forum has members who strive for a party line and also there's the fear factor of going against it which can't be a healthy thing.Houstons situation is a typical example as I've rarely heard a word said against him yet if you mention his name on here it's like a red rag to a bull and you'd better get your tin hat on,and as a three year member on here mines is never far away . Honestly this post is not meant to agitate but just couldn't count the amount of times I've quoted a view which seems to be shared by many on RM only to be told "that's a lot of shite " Don't shoot the messenger.Tin hat fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Another sleeper account goes activeYou mean me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'll not set myself up for a shit storm by going into too many details but in my honest opinion the topic statement is bang on.I genuinely believe a lot of the collective opinions on RM are not shared by most if not all the bears I know (and believe it or not there are many ).While there are many diverse opinions on a lot of Rangers subjects, when it comes to Houston,king boycotts ,Brown and Murray for eg I've found the vast majority of bears I've encountered have polar opposite views of RM.Must be admitted that any Forum has members who strive for a party line and also there's the fear factor of going against it which can't be a healthy thing.Houstons situation is a typical example as I've rarely heard a word said against him yet if you mention his name on here it's like a red rag to a bull and you'd better get your tin hat on,and as a three year member on here mines is never far away . Honestly this post is not meant to agitate but just couldn't count the amount of times I've quoted a view which seems to be shared by many on RM only to be told "that's a lot of shite " Don't shoot the messenger.Tin hat fixed.I think a lot of it is human nature i.e surrounding yourself (even subconsciously) with people you relate to most.I can say the opposite of yourself truthfully, with hand on heart, that the vast majority of Rangers fans I know have no time for your SOS/RST/boycott's/Dingwall/Craig Houston etc.But then again, as I said at the start, I wouldn't hang around with people who bored the tits off me with the stuff I mentioned above - so it's all down to the individual really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 951 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 RM like all forums has its supporters and detractors.But to make a statement as the OP has done, most Rangers minded fans disagree with RM, is clearly looking for an argument.The statement infers that the OP is in contact with a higher percentage of Rangers fans than those that are members on here. Even if there was consensus on any subject on here, which there never is, how can the OP speak for the other 4,000,000 Worldwide.How was your poll conducted.How was the question framed.What numbers of fans were surveyed.I for one was never asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 RM like all forums has its supporters and detractors.But to make a statement as the OP has done, most Rangers minded fans disagree with RM, is clearly looking for an argument.The statement infers that the OP is in contact with a higher percentage of Rangers fans than those that are members on here. Even if there was consensus on any subject on here, which there never is, how can the OP speak for the other 4,000,000 Worldwide.How was your poll conducted.How was the question framed.What numbers of fans were surveyed.I for one was never asked.If forums only dealt in facts they'd be pretty dull,I'm pretty sure the op was only offering his opinion on how people view RM and it's an opinion I share. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_n1 536 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 lets debate itim pretty certain there wont be any debate but crack onbring itWhat's a Rangers minded fanIs that just a Rangers fanSounds a bit taigy in your wording Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 There are not many moderate fan, like myself, on here. There are a good few, vociferous posters, who try to dominate the debate on here and oft, due to the volume of posts they make, on every subject, make those views look like a RM position - but it's not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 There are not many moderate fan, like myself, on here. There are a good few, vociferous posters, who try to dominate the debate on here and oft, due to the volume of posts they make, on every subject, make those views look like a RM position - but it's not really.I'm really glad that no matter what people's views are and the way the fans are split on the likes of King, RST and SOS - there's no cunt I've ever met that's like you A couple of you in the comfort of your little online bubble but that's it - thank fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Wilmot's Wedding Brek 299 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 There are not many moderate fan, like myself, on here. There are a good few, vociferous posters, who try to dominate the debate on here and oft, due to the volume of posts they make, on every subject, make those views look like a RM position - but it's not really.I think this pretty much sums it up. We're subjected to a very vocal minority on here that just abuse any Rangers fan that is supportive of the current regime. They're incredibly tedious to listen to and will spout patently absurd nonsense just so that they can avoid giving the new board any credit. It's sad that Rangers fans (if they are indeed fellow fans, as I genuinely know no bear in real life that shares their views) have become brainwashed into thinking that the likes of Ashley, Somers, Green and others have been anything other than a terrible influence on our club. Instead, they attack our present board for actually trying to inform the fans of dodgy dealings and onerous contracts, blaming them for going toe to toe with Ashley. They're beyond a parody, and I genuinely couldn't imagine any normal bear giving them more than a minute of their time in real life. Their negative, unreasonable views surely means that they have no genuine friends. The forum seems to be the only place they can force their views on others with likeminded individuals. It's little wonder really that they have the time to rack up thousands of posts on here because no-one in the real world would listen to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think this pretty much sums it up. We're subjected to a very vocal minority on here that just abuse any Rangers fan that is supportive of the current regime. They're incredibly tedious to listen to and will spout patently absurd nonsense just so that they can avoid giving the new board any credit. It's sad that Rangers fans (if they are indeed fellow fans) have become brainwashed into thinking that the likes of Ashley, Somers, Green and others have been anything other than a terrible influence on our club. Instead, they attack our present board for actually trying to inform the fans of dodgy dealings and onerous contracts, blaming them for going toe to toe with Ashley. They're beyond a parody, and I genuinely couldn't imagine any normal bear giving them more than a minute of their time in real life. Their negative, unreasonable views surely means that they have no genuine friends. The forum seems to be the only place they can force their views on others with likeminded individuals. It's little wonder really that they have the time to rack up thousands of posts on here because no-one in the real world would listen to them.I've gotta be honest I've not seen one person defend those guys People seem to think legitimate concerns about King and Murray equate to being pro Ashley - that's mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think this pretty much sums it up. We're subjected to a very vocal minority on here that just abuse any Rangers fan that is supportive of the current regime. They're incredibly tedious to listen to and will spout patently absurd nonsense just so that they can avoid giving the new board any credit. It's sad that Rangers fans (if they are indeed fellow fans, as I genuinely know no bear in real life that shares their views) have become brainwashed into thinking that the likes of Ashley, Somers, Green and others have been anything other than a terrible influence on our club. Instead, they attack our present board for actually trying to inform the fans of dodgy dealings and onerous contracts, blaming them for going toe to toe with Ashley. They're beyond a parody, and I genuinely couldn't imagine any normal bear giving them more than a minute of their time in real life. Their negative, unreasonable views surely means that they have no genuine friends. The forum seems to be the only place they can force their views on others with likeminded individuals. It's little wonder really that they have the time to rack up thousands of posts on here because no-one in the real world would listen to them.Spot on m8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I've gotta be honest I've not seen one person defend those guys People seem to think legitimate concerns about King and Murray equate to being pro Ashley - that's mentalYou'd not need to go too far back to find RM members who did back these guys over the present regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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