SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 He really was rank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, bam74 said: They're both hopeless. £1.8 million for Garner just seems like a bad joke. Spends most of the game arguing or on his arse. Kenny Miller, at 36, is our best striker. Frightening This is it, we brought in 11 players and are having to go with most of the team from last season as the players are either injured or considered not better than what we have by the Manager who signed them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersfansmediawatch 1,055 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Smile said: 1 minute ago, Smile said: This is it, we brought in 11 players and are having to go with most of the team from last season as the players are either injured or considered not better than what we have by the Manager who signed them. Still not convinced by Garner,Think he's pretty poor in what i've seen of him and never off his arse ... Pretty hard to believe the money that was paid for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Rangersfansmediawatch said: Still not convinced by Garner,Think he's pretty poor in what i've seen of him and never off his arse ... Pretty hard to believe the money that was paid for him. He must look better in training as i've yet to see him have a good game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Waghorn was more of a threat than Gardner, at this stage looks like he is not cutting it at all. Waghorn needs to work on shooting at the moment, he gets into positions but his finishing is woeful. Gardner just looks lost in every game at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,236 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Waghorn was awful tonight. I would play him through the middle or not at all. Not impressed with Garner so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Waghorn is best through the middle. Whether he is up to this level is another matter. Garner on the other hand apart from a few scraps and tussles has looked garbage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smell the glove 55 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Waghorn has bulked up to much and as a result is less mobile Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
00gunn00 7 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Pearson83 said: I do not rate waghorn and always felt he would struggle this season. Of course ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 951 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Waghorn is definitely off form at the moment, just does not seem to strike the target when under pressure. Not impressed by Garner, seems more interested in diving and trying to be the hardman up front. Fodringham Tavenier Wilson Hill Wallace Halliday Windass Holt Kranjcar Dodoo Miller Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens 11 127 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 4 hours ago, MasterD said: Neither are helped when they don't get a run of games in 1 position. Waghorn starts in the middle 1 game then moved to the right the next to make way for Garner or Miller, then the next game Garners a sub again and someone else comes in. No spine to the team in general. From CBs, CMs, "front 3", rarely any of them are the same 2 or 3 games in a row. But it's all about the squad bro, they aw need a wee shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,680 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 5 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: Waghorn and Mckay just aren't up to it. great against Allloa, East stirling etc but posted missing when it matters. Someone wants to tell Garner that his job is to score goals, not fall about looking for free kicks.. BTW, Miller is still comfortably our best striker.. Am quite sure Garner is looking for some mongo on a Rangers forum to tell him how to play as a striker Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Dodoo looks better than both of them. I'd start him. He makes things happen. Waghorn is rotten, offers nothing to the team at all. Garner needs more chances and he'll start putting them away. Dodoo actually comes on and plays like an guy with a point to prove, he's impressed me a lot the past two appearances he's made Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_Ibrox_Preacher 2,812 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Waghorn needs a hand, better service or a bit of space (yes he can play on the right but he's not gonna score much there what's it to be?!). Garner needs space, low level defense and cross balls for the head. (Not seen much from him to prove his former fans wrong that he's a League 1 player tops and effective primarily where a teams defense goes on holiday. I also think my suspicions that the rumoured £1.8M was nonsense are proving to be true.) Dodoo needs 1 or 2 more seconds than what he's got. I personally think we'd see far more from all of them if we changed to attacking more directly with pace rather than walking it to the edge of the area but I'm not the manager. I also think O'Halloran should be on the right at present or tried through the middle in my suggested approach even if his subs appearance at left wing the other week made him shite and other things in the eyes of many, he creates goals and can run like a whippet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,680 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Why do they never shoot? We should have been up 2.0 if waghorn wasn't trying to run the ball in to row z. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TunnyLoyal 1,136 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said: Why do they never shoot? We should have been up 2.0 if waghorn wasn't trying to run the ball in to row z. U been tae ur bed yet? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Waghorn playing wide right makes about as much sense as having an ashtray on a fucking motorbike. His right boot is only for standing on and half decent defenders can read him like book and make him either go wide or try his luck at going through them. Just as Barton and Rossiter were a liability in our system, Miller and Waghorn are not a good mix against Premier league defences and make us lopsided. I'm not sure whether Waghorn has the ability to get us goals playing through the middle, but sure as fuck he won't get them playing wide right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 3 hours ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said: Am quite sure Garner is looking for some mongo on a Rangers forum to tell him how to play as a striker Get in touch with him then. I'm sure your advice will be appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana100 335 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 9 hours ago, siamthedanger said: Don't rate either. Waghorn is not quick/clinical/decisive enough and Garner pisses me off with his constant diving and getting involved in stuff he shouldn't, not seen any bit of play from him that even suggests he is worth the 1.5 million we paid for him. Garner over acting is pissing me off also. He needs a stern warning on both the fronts you mention, diving and involvement. Tom Daly's diving partner at this rate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 If i was manager i'd try 2 up top. Too many players look stale and we need to freshen things up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerblue 1,716 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 As others have said,garner spends more time on the deck looking for fouls,play to the whistle ffs, dodoo looks a better prospect,at least he was having a go Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthemod 31 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Noticed when Dodoo and Garner came on looked as if they were indicating to the team to get crosses in for Garner to attack. Waghorn has been hopeless! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,531 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 The Gaffer is a fidget. Fidgeting with our selection, where and who does what, fidgeting with strikers, subs and what not. No wonder half our team run about not knowing/forgetting what this weeks game plan is all about. Thing is - I think MW thinks this is "management" when it's actually just "fidgeting". Nothing the matter with not disrupting our momento with subs Nothing the matter with playing players in their strongest position Nothing the matter with speculative shots as every striker wants to Like my old mum used to say "leave that alone or it will fall off". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Garner is the better option IMO but he needs service. Stop trying to walk the ball into the net and start whipping crosses into the box for him to attack and he'll thrive. He looks isolated at times and, when he's already a bit of a fiery character, the frustration that will bring isn't going to help his temperament any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,680 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 4 hours ago, TunnyLoyal said: U been tae ur bed yet? Lol Was talking to the bomb last night, the boy never misses a game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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