Refusing to sign Hayes & Oxford was the end.

[eskbankloyal 19,446]

3 hours ago, The Dude said:

Josh Windass has four assists and he's barely played. 

Windass has the highest assists per minutes played in the SPFL which surprised me.

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, eskbankloyal said:

Windass has the highest assists per minutes played in the SPFL which surprised me.

Aye? Christ that is surprising. I've not been overly impressed tbh but think he needs a settled run.

[writingranger 1,412]

4 hours ago, Lloyd72 said:

I wonder if Warburton actually thought leaking the fact the board wouldn't need let him spend 1million+ on a pretty average player who is 29 about to turn 30 with no sell on value, would turn (more) fans against King.

I do think Warburton was losing the plot a bit. Oxford would have been excellent but Hayes? He's ok bur we already have plenty of ok players. What we were needing was a team with some of the more talented players getting game time.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,479]

hayes might have been what we needed, given we have a rep of signing the best players from the rest of scottish football why does this seem bad

walter spent 2 mill on kevin thomson when he came back, then another 2 each on whittaker and naismith, wallace, big dunc, novo, andrews there's a fucking huge list of supposed shite players we took from other scottish teams that turned out good

[Creampuff 22,628]

I can't believe Warburton wanted to spend £1m on another winger. It's baffling.

[The Dude 20,026]

29 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

hayes might have been what we needed, given we have a rep of signing the best players from the rest of scottish football why does this seem bad

walter spent 2 mill on kevin thomson when he came back, then another 2 each on whittaker and naismith, wallace, big dunc, novo, andrews there's a fucking huge list of supposed shite players we took from other scottish teams that turned out good

Almost all of them were relatively young (bar Andrews who was a freebie). Hayes is 30 in July.

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4 hours ago, The Dude said:

Josh Windass has four assists and he's barely played. 

It's been windy though.

[JockyWilsonspants 80]

All sides are trying to spin their story out to the media, even if its behind the scenes. In these situations its best to trust neither side. I would say that I was never convinced at Warburton's commitment to the cause long-term.

[kaiser1041 9,088]

Thank fuck the board learned that clown couldn't be trusted with a budget 

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Just now, kaiser1041 said:

Thank fuck the board learned that clown couldn't be trusted with a budget 

Should they not have learned that when they extended Kiernan's contract.

[rfc_watp 1,503]

5 hours ago, lazza1873 said:

I just can't take to Waghorn, he infuriates me how poor his right foot is for a professional football player.

Sick of seeing him take the wrong option or miss sitter after sitter. Seems to get a reprieve on here the days after scoring a goal and then people quickly remember how poor a footballer he is the following game.

Can't disagree with any of this.

Defenders know he will constantly try to put it on his left foot. His decision making is questionable and he misses more than he scores but he is still one of the better players we have. He gets into dangerous areas and looks to create and get at defenders so he would be in my team even with all his faults.

[SteveEarle 9,702]

1 hour ago, BlueThunder said:

I'd be happy signing Alan Carr if it stopped the filth getting 10IAR and got us 55. 

Probably harder in the tackle than Keirnan......

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2 minutes ago, Smile said:

Should they not have learned that when they extended Kiernan's contract.

Fuck don't get me started on those cunts either.i don't trust a single person on that board 

we went from a manger who doesn't do walking away to a manager that didn't do winning away.

we are as incompetent in the boardroom as we were in the dugout

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2 minutes ago, kaiser1041 said:

Fuck don't get me started on those cunts either.i don't trust a single person on that board 

we went from a manger who doesn't do walking away to a manager that didn't do winning away.

we are as incompetent in the boardroom as we were in the dugout

 

 

This for me as well it's too easy to just Blame the Management when the board also sanction every signing. It's a bit of Both.

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1 hour ago, The Dude said:

Almost all of them were relatively young (bar Andrews who was a freebie). Hayes is 30 in July.

so he's experienced in the scottish game, isnt that what we are crying out for

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2 hours ago, The Dude said:

Aye? Christ that is surprising. I've not been overly impressed tbh but think he needs a settled run.

...and a good old fashioned kick up the srse.

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5 hours ago, born a blue nose said:

It's not fun being a fucking laughing stock so yes gutted. I was also one of the people who bought right into warburtons ideology too, so add a little egg on my face to boot and it leaves a gutting feeling 

99% did mate, just some saw through him quicker than others. I wasn't the fastest either tbf.

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2 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

hayes might have been what we needed, given we have a rep of signing the best players from the rest of scottish football why does this seem bad

walter spent 2 mill on kevin thomson when he came back, then another 2 each on whittaker and naismith, wallace, big dunc, novo, andrews there's a fucking huge list of supposed shite players we took from other scottish teams that turned out good

When they were in their early twenties.

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,699]

1 hour ago, Smile said:

Should they not have learned that when they extended Kiernan's contract.

The timing of Kiernan's extension makes me think it was a contractual obligation that was probably written into his deal when we first signed him.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,479]

3 minutes ago, Big Al II said:

When they were in their early twenties.

so it was a gamble taking guys who werent that experienced in the scottish game, hayes has massive experience of the league we are struggling in,

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2 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

The timing of Kiernan's extension makes me think it was a contractual obligation that was probably written into his deal when we first signed him.

Maybe i guess.

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2 hours ago, The Dude said:

Aye? Christ that is surprising. I've not been overly impressed tbh but think he needs a settled run.

I've said it a few times now but I see a lot of similarities between Windass here and Lallana when he first went to Liverpool.

I think with a season at the club under his belt and a good pre season where he works on his own stamina he could become a pretty important player for us.

I'm not entirely convinced he's a centre midfielder though. Didn't he play as a number ten or from the left hand side for Accrington?

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Just now, Smile said:

Maybe i guess.

It's the only logical reason I can think of  

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Just now, Jimbeamjunior said:

so it was a gamble taking guys who werent that experienced in the scottish game, hayes has massive experience of the league we are struggling in,

If you think  £1m plus is what we should be paying for a 30 year old from Aberdeen then fair enough but that is incomparable with Smith and Advocaat signing the best young Scottish talent available.

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1 hour ago, Smile said:

This for me as well it's too easy to just Blame the Management when the board also sanction every signing. It's a bit of Both.

The minute they didnt, the management team resigned