Murray Loyal 26 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 6 hours ago, OhW said: Why do people say things like "very average" when they really mean "shite"? You can't say that 90% of players in a league are average. An average player is someone around the middle. I said "now apart from us and savco everyone is at the very most average" e.g Jamie Walker, Louis Moult, Liam Boyce, Niall Mcginn. Players like that who can be good on some days and be shite the next. But apart from a select few i would agree with you that most of the leagues players are pretty shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFunke 401 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 On 13/02/2017 at 11:48 AM, In Dungeons Deep said: Warburton is a rat Magic rat.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowrangersafc 432 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 14/02/2017 at 11:32 AM, DBBTB said: I struggle to believe that we've been keeping an eye on a player for six years (especially considering be moved under freedom of contract during that period) and have only decided to move for him now tbh. Rangers, celtic and some russian mob all expressed interest whiles hayes was at inverness then he got a knee injury and all decided against it and aberdeen took a punt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowrangersafc 432 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 14/02/2017 at 6:01 PM, Murray Loyal said: I said "now apart from us and savco everyone is at the very most average" e.g Jamie Walker, Louis Moult, Liam Boyce, Niall Mcginn. Players like that who can be good on some days and be shite the next. But apart from a select few i would agree with you that most of the leagues players are pretty shite. Arrogance like statements of the rest of the teams player are shite is one of many reasons for the wide spread hatred of rangers. Our current team is pretty awful you could argue a case that there is a better, keeper, whole backline, holding midfielder, winger and striker to be had by selecting from other scottish clubs than what we have at present. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,444 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 £1m for Hayes. Even I couldn't have defended that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,444 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 59 minutes ago, Glasgowrangersafc said: Arrogance like statements of the rest of the teams player are shite is one of many reasons for the wide spread hatred of rangers. Our current team is pretty awful you could argue a case that there is a better, keeper, whole backline, holding midfielder, winger and striker to be had by selecting from other scottish clubs than what we have at present. But we've sat in 2nd for most of the season, and still with a good chance of finishing there. The reason these players play for Scottish clubs (apart from a few gems here and there) is that they are bang average. You see them at their best because they lift their game against Rangers, you don't then see them not kick their own arse for the next 3 or 4 games because you don't watch them week to week. Also, fuck giving these scumbag bastard chairmen or clubs any money at all. I'd rather wee looked elsewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: But we've sat in 2nd for most of the season, and still with a good chance of finishing there. The reason these players play for Scottish clubs (apart from a few gems here and there) is that they are bang average. You see them at their best because they lift their game against Rangers, you don't then see them not kick their own arse for the next 3 or 4 games because you don't watch them week to week. Also, fuck giving these scumbag bastard chairmen or clubs any money at all. I'd rather wee looked elsewhere. We're 3 points and a fuck ton of goals behind a team whos attacking midfield player we are seemingly laughing at for being not good enough for us Reminds me of the adam rooney debate years ago, scored every week in the spl yet he wasnt good enough for us seemingly, so we spunked a million on james beattie instead Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWBear 1,640 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 14/02/2017 at 0:59 PM, In Dungeons Deep said: Call me whatever you like. Ok cunt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I think the board were right to say no to signing Hayes and Oxford. Rangers weren't making money on the transfer market side of the business compared to our biggest rivals. A DoF would ensure these goals were met. Celtic Squad made up mostly of players on loan a couple of free transfers and half a dozen were transfer fees were paid. Total Market Value of squad £45.69m Squad size 27Manager made a profit Sum: £7.99m Average age of arrivals: 23,0 Total market value arrivals: £17.79m Sum: £2.98m Average age of departures: 23,1 Total market value departures: £19.57m Aberdeen Squad made up of free transfers and players on loan Total Market Value of squad £7.35m Squad size 20Manager made a profit Sum: 0 Average age of arrivals: 22,6 Total market value arrivals: £4.00m Sum: 0 Average age of departures: 23,6 Total market value departures: £4.19m Rangers Squad mostly made up of free transfers and players on loan Transfer fees were paid for Joe Garner £1.47m and Jak Alnwick £247k Total Market Value of squad £10.53m Squad size 24Manager made a loss Sum: £1.72m Average age of arrivals: 23,1 Total market value arrivals: £9.11m Sum: 0 Average age of departures: 23,2 Total market value departures: £5.27m Info from http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On Tue Feb 14 2017 at 0:52 AM, In Dungeons Deep said: I don't hate Rangers you mess. I hate the cunt that took us for a ride and was never fully committed to us as he had one of his snakey eyes down south at all moments. Last season is the most overrated season in Rangers history, after January we were fucking pish and lost one of the easiest cup finals we have ever played due to the fact he's a bald worstcunt that's shirt at managing. Dont even mention the Old Firm, the worst thing that happened to us as it bought that cunt another few months. We lost the cup final because he is bald? What does that even mean? That bemuses me as much as warburton wanting to spend a million on hayes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giffnockger 4,840 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Who is Hayes anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobham 1,569 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Can't be arsed reading through the thread and this has probably been said before but..... The reason the board were correct in not sanctioning these signings were 1. They were already unsure of Warburton and not keen on spending money on his signings when he was unlikely to be in charge the following season. 2. They already gave him money from a future budget, against a plan they had already agreed. 3. He signed two centre backs in the summer and two the summer before, why after signing 4 centre backs are we still in desperate need for 2 centre backs? 4. £1m for Jonny fucking Hayes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 14/02/2017 at 6:35 PM, DrFunke said: Magic rat.? That's what the Chinese call him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Cobham said: Can't be arsed reading through the thread and this has probably been said before but..... The reason the board were correct in not sanctioning these signings were 1. They were already unsure of Warburton and not keen on spending money on his signings when he was unlikely to be in charge the following season. 2. They already gave him money from a future budget, against a plan they had already agreed. 3. He signed two centre backs in the summer and two the summer before, why after signing 4 centre backs are we still in desperate need for 2 centre backs? 4. £1m for Jonny fucking Hayes! They were unsure of him yet gave him an extended contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_85 656 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 it funny people saying that the board should never have bid 1 million for Hayes but when there was talk of selling McKay people were hoping to get 6 million. Mckay has 2 goals and 4 assists in 23 games and Hayes has 6 goals and 13 assists in 20 games. Stats dont lie and they put our best prospect to shame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, james_85 said: it funny people saying that the board should never have bid 1 million for Hayes but when there was talk of selling McKay people were hoping to get 6 million. Mckay has 2 goals and 4 assists in 23 games and Hayes has 6 goals and 13 assists in 20 games. Stats dont lie and they put our best prospect to shame. Agree they are fucking stupid, at the start of the season McKay struggled in the League and is still having just as many good games as Bad, And i Rate the Player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromff 19 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 hours ago, graeme_4 said: £1m for Hayes. Even I couldn't have defended that. Couldn't you? He got more assists last season and has more assists this season than any player in the league, including the ones that have been bought for millions. So who is worth more than him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirFleckNRothen 1,789 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 He's a good player, Hayes, but he doesn't look like a Rangers player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_85 656 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Smile said: Agree they are fucking stupid, at the start of the season McKay struggled in the League and is still having just as many good games as Bad, And i Rate the Player. I like McKay, but I think Wallace hinders him at times by bombing forward so much. His best spell was when Wallace was out injured. Him on one wing and Hayes on the other would have worked well. Also when looking at the 1 million figure, we spent 500,000 on MOH so 1 million doesnt actually look that bad in comparison Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, bannedfromff said: Couldn't you? He got more assists last season and has more assists this season than any player in the league, including the ones that have been bought for millions. So who is worth more than him? Josh Windass. Hayes has two more assists this season than Windass who has started less than half the number of games Hayes has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Smile said: They were unsure of him yet gave him an extended contract. They had no choice after the semi final last season and Scottish cup run last season. That's the way I see it anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, james_85 said: it funny people saying that the board should never have bid 1 million for Hayes but when there was talk of selling McKay people were hoping to get 6 million. Mckay has 2 goals and 4 assists in 23 games and Hayes has 6 goals and 13 assists in 20 games. Stats dont lie and they put our best prospect to shame. Hayes is 30 in July, McKay has just turned 22. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, james_85 said: I like McKay, but I think Wallace hinders him at times by bombing forward so much. His best spell was when Wallace was out injured. Him on one wing and Hayes on the other would have worked well. Also when looking at the 1 million figure, we spent 500,000 on MOH so 1 million doesnt actually look that bad in comparison Wallace should never be in front of McKay he should leave that to the more Creative player and concentrate on defending. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, jackrfc95 said: They had no choice after the semi final last season and Scottish cup run last season. That's the way I see it anyway. They were happy with him in May. By December they weren't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: Hayes is 30 in July, McKay has just turned 22. Just now, The Dude said: Hayes is 30 in July, McKay has just turned 22. We could still get seven seasons out him then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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