james_85 656 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, Smile said: Wallace should never be in front of McKay he should leave that to the more Creative player and concentrate on defending. Especially when Wallace's final ball is rank rotten. The amount of times he gets to cut it back he never finds a Rangers player its so fustrating Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleh1872 87 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Not sure if this point has been made previously but...Nae fuckin danger would aberdeen have sold hayes to us for a million quid. They were holding out for a million from clubs down south. Now if we went sniffing around that would have been a different ball game, they would not have sold him to us for a million quid. Would they sell their best player to their closest (league) rivals half way through the season for what they view as there minimum valuation of him? Would they shite, It makes me wonder why MW thought he could even get him for a million. The board probably realised as that they would have to pay well over the odds, something MW always said he never wanted to do, but he tried to do it anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Smile said:  We could still get seven seasons out him then. Probably.  I don't think McKays anywhere near as good as made out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: They were happy with him in May. By December they weren't. Which makes perfect sense after the start we had/ season we're having. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, WeirFleckNRothen said: He's a good player, Hayes, but he doesn't look like a Rangers player. He's no Davie Dodds right enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Probably. Â I don't think McKays anywhere near as good as made out. Â I like him but he has to improve up against anyone with similar pace he struggles should work more on tricks/skills to beat a man rather than just outpace him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Hayes is nowhere near the level of player we need. He isn't even as good as the kid Christie who can't get near the Celtic team. We really have to aim higher than this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 hours ago, graeme_4 said:  £1m for Hayes. Even I couldn't have defended that.  His Current market value is £680k, was the price inflated because Rangers asked? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobham 1,569 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:  His Current market value is £680k, was the price inflated because Rangers asked? According to whom? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cobham said: According to whom? http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jonny-hayes/profil/spieler/52380 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jonny-hayes/profil/spieler/52380 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/niko-kranjcar/profil/spieler/16746 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/barrie-mckay/profil/spieler/208934 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/philippe-senderos/profil/spieler/4277 There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason to their figures. Senderos and Kranjcar are worth more than McKay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/niko-kranjcar/profil/spieler/16746 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/barrie-mckay/profil/spieler/208934 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/philippe-senderos/profil/spieler/4277 There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason to their figures. Senderos and Kranjcar are worth more than McKay? How does transfermarkt value the players? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/niko-kranjcar/profil/spieler/16746 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/barrie-mckay/profil/spieler/208934 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/philippe-senderos/profil/spieler/4277 There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason to their figures. Senderos and Kranjcar are worth more than McKay? Will probably go on their CV/stats rather than actually what they're like just now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobham 1,569 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jonny-hayes/profil/spieler/52380 Barrie Mckay £595k Wes £390k Senderos £638k  You are telling me this site is the benchmark for player values? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, Sweetheart said: How does transfermarkt value the players? From what I see they don't give any explanation on how they arrive at their figures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: From what I see they don't give any explanation on how they arrive at their figures. Agreed. They need to put something on there website at how they arrive to those valuation figures Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobham 1,569 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: From what I see they don't give any explanation on how they arrive at their figures. https://www.google.co.uk/search?site=&source=hp&q=random+number+generator&oq=random+number+generator&gs_l=hp.3..0l10.1300.6091.0.6215.24.11.0.13.13.0.130.1134.3j8.11.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..0.23.1131.0..0i131k1.zDyv_QDpYR0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,493 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Sweetheart said: I think the board were right to say no to signing Hayes and Oxford. Rangers weren't making money on the transfer market side of the business compared to our biggest rivals. A DoF would ensure these goals were met. Â Â Â Â Â whos the DoF for the tarriers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,493 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Tenerife Bear said: Hayes is nowhere near the level of player we need. He isn't even as good as the kid Christie who can't get near the Celtic team. We really have to aim higher than this. aim higher? what like above us in the league higher? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: whos the DoF for the tarriers? dunno, didn't see that on transfermarkt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,493 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Sweetheart said: dunno, didn't see that on transfermarkt just curious as you said a DoF would help us try and match what they are achieving in the market, so their DoF must be well known given the amount they make on a yearly basis from the transfers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just now, Jimbeamjunior said: just curious as you said a DoF would help us try and match what they are achieving in the market, so their DoF must be well known given the amount they make on a yearly basis from the transfers The reason i feel a DoF would be best for us is that we've had 2 inexperience managers that have failed to make a profit in the football transfer side of the business. A DoF would ensure this is done and would work with the board to achieve it. He would take over the business side and a decent head coach or temp manager would be able to give his full focus on the first team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,748 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: How does transfermarkt value the players? Some clown he plays too much FM probably pulls the figures out of his arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: Some clown he plays too much FM probably pulls the figures out of his arse. Seriously, can anyone explain how player values are calculated? I'm interest to see if the values were increased because Rangers were interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,493 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: The reason i feel a DoF would be best for us is that we've had 2 inexperience managers that have failed to make a profit in the football transfer side of the business. A DoF would ensure this is done and would work with the board to achieve it. He would take over the business side and a decent head coach or temp manager would be able to give his full focus on the first team didnt neil lennon and ronny deila both make a mint in the market, both were inexperienced managers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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