Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I've even took all the adverts out for the moaning bastards amongst you ?... CAMMY BELL has lifted the lid on life under Mark Warburton at Rangers — and insists the axed boss was not up to the job. Former Ibrox No 1 Bell claims that Warburton was a poor man-manager who HATED any confrontation, refused to accept criticism and let the size of Rangers swallow him up. Dundee United keeper Bell — who left Gers at the end of last season — is the first dressing-room insider to reveal what was going on behind the scenes during Warburton’s reign. He said: “I’m still not sure if he got to know the size of the club. “Rangers is a worldwide institution with a great history. “But even at the end I still wasn’t convinced he understood how big it was. “As soon as he came under pressure, he struggled. It felt like he didn’t know where to go with the club. I think he had maybe taken things as far as he could. “He didn’t like confrontation. A lot of demands were placed on the players to demand things from each other — which players should do. “But there should also be a demand from a manager as well. “I felt there were times when boys needed a rocket and it didn’t happen.” In an explosive interview the former Light Blues stopper has exposed shortcomings he believes paved the way for Warburton’s Rangers exit. Friday’s loss in Inverness again laid bare the woeful weaknesses in the Ibrox team. Bell isn’t surprised to see the way things have gone for his old club this season. He had a year under Warburton before joining Dundee United last summer. It was enough to see first-hand where he felt Warburton was going wrong before being axed as manager a fortnight ago. Bell told SunSport: “Mark was a good coach on the training pitch. He and Davie Weir worked well there. “A lot of his ideas as a coach were really good but sometimes he wasn’t great in man-management. Bell spent a year under Warburton at Rangers “Looking at a few of his interviews, he didn’t like criticism. I think he was uncomfortable with criticism. “He probably took it to heart more than anything, but as a Rangers manager you’re always in the firing line. “You need to be able to deal with criticism as a Rangers manager. “You need to be able to protect your players and try to bat away any negative influences and let them try to do their job to the best of their abilities, which gets results. “He was also very stubborn in wanting plan A to work. “I understood why he said his plan B was to play plan A better. “But football is unpredictable and things happen in 90 minutes. “The best managers in the world are the ones who can identify things need to be changed. “If a formation isn’t working you need a plan B, C and D to make sure you get three points. That didn’t happen.” Bell, 30, believes the way Warburton dealt with him summed up life under the Englishman. The keeper had become No1 when Ally McCoist made his dream move happen in 2013. Bell claims Warburton told him in January last year he could go on loan with Wes Foderingham first pick. SunSport then broke the story he was wanted by Aberdeen. Bell says Warburton struggled to speak to players who were not in starting XI Bell admits there was a club ready to take him — only for that club to tell him Rangers had told them he wasn’t available. He said: “Mark always seemed close to the guys who were playing. He found it difficult to speak to guys who weren’t in the team. “From my own experience speaking to him one-to-one, he didn’t like it when you asked questions. I felt it difficult to get the right answer, or any answer out of him. “There was a time I wasn’t playing but I wasn’t going in to demand I got a game. “I was trying to go out on loan to get back after injury. I got told I could go on loan at one point then a week later found I couldn’t. “But I only found out through having a loan club available. It was the loan club that told me I couldn’t go out on loan. “It was difficult. If he’d pulled me into the office and told me I could no longer go on loan then at least I would have known. I kind of felt in the dark a little with him, as it needed a third party to tell me what was actually happening.” Bell believes the final nail in Warburton’s coffin was the way he dealt with the crisis that was beginning to envelop him in what were to be his final weeks as boss. He added: “Ultimately Rangers is all about winning games and for me nothing else was accepted the whole time I was there. “That’s the way it should be and that’s why it’s been a disappointing season so far. “He struggled towards the end and the pressure got to him. Cammy Bell is now playing for Dundee United “But I don’t think he took the pressure off the players when they were starting to get stick off the fans. It ended up a difficult period towards the end for him. “At times he possibly didn’t choose his words right in interviews. I remember watching the Hearts game and it wasn’t up to Rangers’ standard. “If he’d come out and been honest, said they’d not been good enough and it was unacceptable, the fans would have understood more. “But there were a lot of excuses getting made. Fans can detect that and there were a lot of rumbles. “Earlier in the season they lost 5-1 to Celtic. As a Rangers manager, after a defeat you sometimes need to say the players weren’t good enough. “The demands at Rangers are to win every match, no matter who it’s against. “Whether he realised that or not, I don’t know. Even though it was the first season back in the top flight it was never going to be acceptable to lose a game to anybody. “Definitely not in the manner they have lost some games this season. “Mark’s first season went well and there weren’t too many hiccups, but losing the Scottish Cup final to Hibs maybe dragged into this season. “I don’t think he got the signings he’d have probably wanted and his recruitment hasn’t worked. “I obviously wasn’t there at the end but it was plain as an outsider they weren’t playing fluently. “The gameplan wasn’t working and players looked frustrated. “You only had to look at the reaction of boys when they came off the pitch, they didn’t look happy. “They were frustrated one way or another. You could see them moaning. “That didn’t happen last year. When everything is going well obviously it’s a lot easier to deal with, but for me that’s when managers earn their money. “When things aren’t going well it’s about being able to turn it around and change things when they’re going wrong on the pitch. “It was clear to see that hasn’t been happening a lot this season because results haven’t gone the way Rangers would have hoped.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billythebear77 10,386 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Cammy bell can fuck off! Does he no remember the way he played for us aswell, fuck my 83 year old gran could have caught that one in the play offs!!! another ex player who should shut the fuck up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Billythebear77 said: Cammy bell can fuck off! Does he no remember the way he played for us aswell, fuck my 83 year old gran could have caught that one in the play offs!!! another ex player who should shut the fuck up The fact that he's pish doesn't make what he's saying any less true Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal-Bear 229 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Saying what we all knew the job was too big for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar 13,676 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 He is the worst goalkeeper I've ever seen play professional football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Okay, explains a lot as to why the ideas were maybe good but couldn't be implemented or the players motivated. Poor man-management by Warburton. But what the fuck was Davie Weir doing to help ? As an ex captain and professional there should have been no doubt about Davie's man management skills. and there is surely no excuse for that awful defending. Should Davie Weir not have had a more positive effect there ? In my view he should have. As for Cammy Bell he has every right to say what he thinks, and the clearer us fans become about what has gone on in the past 2 years the better, both on and off the field. Why would posters above want him to keep quiet or slag him off as "Being the worst keeper ever etc"? He was only a small part of what we are now starting to realise was a huge problem with our management team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,485 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: The fact that he's pish doesn't make what he's saying any less true The fact he wasn't very good and that fuck up v Motherwell, means he can fuck off with whatever he wants to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 An honest interview from Cammy and a pretty damming one on Warburton's part. It pretty much confirms what a lot of us already suspected about him - that he couldn't handle criticism and he had his favourites in the team. Surely one of the first things you'd expect when you become the manager of a club of our size is that you're going to get criticism from a lot of angles. The fact he thought he was untouchable and refused the change things when they clearly weren't working I think shows he had totally the wrong mentality to be our manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just another bitter cunt who felt he didn't get a chance. If guys like Wes Foderingham came out and said this then I'd listen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic191 4,438 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Seems very evident from the barton situation that he couldn't handle criticism so what Cammy Bell is saying is hardly surprising and given the team selections it seemed like he had his favourites as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, SuperPapac05 said: Just another bitter cunt who felt he didn't get a chance. If guys like Wes Foderingham came out and said this then I'd listen. How is he a bitter cunt? He says in this interview that he wasn't demanding to play and wanted to go out on loan, but Warburton didn't let him after initially allowing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Captain Hilts said: How is he a bitter ***? He says in this interview that he wasn't demanding to play and wanted to go out on loan, but Warburton didn't let him after initially allowing it. There you go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 He's confirming what a lot of folk have been saying on here, no plan B, no man management, didn't appreciate the size of the job and panic buy signings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Captain Hilts said: How is he a bitter cunt? He says in this interview that he wasn't demanding to play and wanted to go out on loan, but Warburton didn't let him after initially allowing it. Knee jerk reaction on here to blame the messenger not the message. But that just shows the anger the fans are now feeling as the true story comes out. God forbid, but maybe Barton was right to criticize the management, no-one else appears to have the confidence to do it, including those higher up. No, especially those higher up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, SuperPapac05 said: There you go. He doesn't sound bitter to be. He is an awful 'keeper but after being treated like that I don't blame him for criticising MW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,883 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Warburton was shite Cammy Bell was shite /thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, tannerall said: Knee jerk reaction on here to blame the messenger not the message. But that just shows the anger the fans are now feeling as the true story comes out. God forbid, but maybe Barton was right to criticize the management, no-one else appears to have the confidence to do it, including those higher up. No, especially those higher up. Barton acts like a bell end too often, but he's played at a very high level pretty consistently throughout his career and he would've known that we were a mess when he was here. He allegedly had a barney with Warburton and one of his golden boys Halliday, so it's no surprise that it was Barton who got punted. If only the board had seen back then how poor Warburton and Halliday were, we could've still had an excellent midfielder on our books. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, The Godfather said: Warburton was shite Cammy Bell was shite /thread Sweep, sweep, let's ignore what Bell is saying and move on ? Don't think so, unfortunately those comments are probably only the tip of an iceberg and there's a lot more to come out. And those at the top will need to be answerable themselves for allowing the fiasco to continue so long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grfc1872 56 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 ? end Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Captain Hilts said: Barton acts like a bell end too often, but he's played at a very high level pretty consistently throughout his career and he would've known that we were a mess when he was here. He allegedly had a barney with Warburton and one of his golden boys Halliday, so it's no surprise that it was Barton who got punted. If only the board had seen back then how poor Warburton and Halliday were, we could've still had an excellent midfielder on our books. One thing about getting angry is the truth tends to come out. Not like Barton to keep quiet about anything he does not like, obviously did a deal to say nowt and be allowed to leave at his convenience, which very conveniently was back to Burnley quite quick. Our board really has a lot to answer for, basically oversaw a shambles for the last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 14,850 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Seems he did have his favourites as we all pointed out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,883 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, tannerall said: Sweep, sweep, let's ignore what Bell is saying and move on ? Don't think so, unfortunately those comments are probably only the tip of an iceberg and there's a lot more to come out. And those at the top will need to be answerable themselves for allowing the fiasco to continue so long. Well who actually Cares? Bell will have his nose up because he was shipped out for being a complete mess We all know Warburton didn't have a plan B or C, we knew he picked his favourites like Halliday, Kiernan and Tav and we all know his man management was shite....we don't need a juggler like Bell to tell us what was going on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, The Godfather said: Warburton was shite Cammy Bell was shite /thread Probably sums it up in simplistic terms! I guess there's always 2 sides to every story and it's certainly not uncommon for players who were not playing to come out and be critical of an ex manager. Therefore in that respect he will probably view things from a different perspective to others. I'm sure some parts are accurate and some are probably through his own tinted glasses, which is fine. Regardless both ultimately failed in their respective roles and IMO I don't see much benefit we gain from going through everything that has gone before in every detail. We just need to get our shit together and move forward asap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, The Godfather said: Well who actually Cares? Bell will have his nose up because he was shipped out for being a complete mess We all know Warburton didn't have a plan B or CH and we all know his man management was shite....we don't need a juggler like Bell to tell us what was going on We as fans care, are you happy the board was aware of all this shite but chose to carry on regardless. Are you happy just to ignore what he says and carry on with more of the same to come out, pretending all the fuck ups don't matter. Only thing irrelevant is whether he is bitter or not. He's telling the truth. Unlike our board...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,883 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, tannerall said: We as fans care, are you happy the board was aware of all this shite but chose to carry on regardless. Are you happy just to ignore what he says and carry on with more of the same to come out, pretending all the fuck ups don't matter. Only thing irrelevant is whether he is bitter or not. He's telling the truth. Unlike our board...... Erm who's ignoring It? It's not news Tannerall, we all knew this month's ago. We don't need Bell coming out a year after he was ditched spouting this, why not when he left? Bit convienet for him to spill now Warburton is away eh? No one is saying he's lying, it's hardly news though unless you have been living under a rock for 2 seasons Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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