K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, Virtuoso said: There's only two 'bigger games or teams' per season, bheasts and the sheep or are we now classing the likes of Motherwell as a bigger game / team? One goal against the bheasts this season doesn't constitute 'doing it against bigger teams' imo. I agree with you but I don't think he was saying Motherwell bigger game, think it was more because of him we turned 1 point into 3. I think. I might have misread mate. It shows you the extent of what we need when it all starts getting laid out like this. Scary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 This isn't a surprise. Joey Barton was sacked for showing some fight in the dressing room. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Gilks reminded me of Alexander in the UEFA Cup Final season. When he signed I was a bit "meh" but when Gilks stepped into the big game, that Celtic one, I was happy to be proved wrong. That was a performance and a half. Goram-like against Celtic. Agreed. Just a pity it did not have the same outcome as the majority of games during Goram's era. *Special mention to the game at Parkhead when Brian O'Neil slipped on his arse and Laudrup scored the winner. Van Hooijdonk could still be playing that game right now and still wouldn't have found a way past Andy Goram. The Goalie had that special type of big-game mentality, especially in the derby games. He just decided he wasn't going to be beaten, no matter what... And most of the time, he was proved correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: This isn't a surprise. Joey Barton was sacked for showing some fight in the dressing room. Was thinking this after seeing Bell's comments yesterday and these comments today. Andy Halliday must be the ultimate lick-arse tbh. It would explain a few things such as the Barton fiasco and his undroppable status. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, WadeWilson said: Agreed. Just a pity it did not have the same outcome as the majority of games during Goram's era. *Special mention to the game at Parkhead when Brian O'Neil slipped on his arse and Laudrup scored the winner. Van Hooijdonk could still be playing that game right now and still wouldn't have found a way past Andy Goram. The Goalie had that special type of big-game mentality, especially in the derby games. He just decided he wasn't going to be beaten, no matter what... And most of the time, he was proved correct. That save from Van Hooijdonk the season before in the 3-3 Ibrox game. Still the best save I've ever seen and that game was at a time when I was a teenager, right into football and watching every game of football under the sun on Sky and Eurosport. Thinking about it now I don't think I've seen a better one period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Was thinking this after seeing Bell's comments yesterday and these comments today. Andy Halliday must be the ultimate lick-arse tbh. It would explain a few things such as the Barton fiasco and his undroppable status. Halliday, apparently, comes out of it ok. It's our vaunted former manager who over-reacted to a wee argument Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,488 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 hour ago, K.A.I said: Can't copy and paste but he's saying his Rangers move was a nightmare because there was no fight in the dressing room. He seen more fight in the Blackpool team and there was more team spirit there than there is/was at Rangers. Again, can't really argue with the guy as it's probably obvious. Interesting comments though. It puts the focus firmly on guys like Wallace, Wilson, Holt, Halliday, Miller, McKay etc who are either meant to be captains, young/Scottish and knows about the size of our club or self-confessed Rangers fans. Not one of them are good enough to be at our club. We'll he's a supposedly Scottish, international who was at the club. Step up and be a leader yourself Matt, rather than chucking it after 6 months because you couldn't displace a far superior keeper. As little fight / balls as any of them. Same with Bell yesterday. Easy to say it after the fact when you're away. Do it at the time, either privately or publicly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,488 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Was thinking this after seeing Bell's comments yesterday and these comments today. Andy Halliday must be the ultimate lick-arse tbh. It would explain a few things such as the Barton fiasco and his undroppable status. Daft comment. You've no idea about him in the dressing room or how he interacts with the managerial team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 ex players have came out, got paid money to get a dig in at their former club....that should be the headline. Aye maybe what they're saying is absolutley spot on, been things fans have been saying for a while, maybe it's absolute shite and they're saying it because they've spat the dummy at getting punted by the club, point is you'll never know. Said the same thing when it was Cammy, if it comes from a current player or even one who left on good circumstances, then i'll listen to what's being said....if it comes from somebody who isn't happy they weren't getting played and got let go then not interested in what's being said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, graeme_4 said: Daft comment. You've no idea about him in the dressing room or how he interacts with the managerial team. Daft comment? how would you describe him being so un-droppable then? playing ability? please say playing ability so I can ram the daft comment, comment back at you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,488 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 40 minutes ago, The Godfather said: You said he wasn't good enough to be here just now but he clearly is, this isnt Rangers of 5/6 year ago, we are where we are. Right now he is one of our better players so he doesn't fall under the names you mentioned in your OP. Ideally yeah we would have a far better squad than we do but we don't because we are skint and we aint likely to get much £ to better it. I'd rather have Miller here next season than most of the shite we have. Pretty simple I thought, guess not.... He's marginally better than some of them, but he's been pretty much anonymous for 3 in every 4 games. Scoring a few last minute winners doesn't make him infallible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Gilks reminded me of Alexander in the UEFA Cup Final season. When he signed I was a bit "meh" but when Gilks stepped into the big game, that Celtic one, I was happy to be proved wrong. That was a performance and a half. Goram-like against Celtic. OK we'll forget him trying to dribble Rogic in the six yard box and nearly costing a goal. Gilks is a journeyman and no more and please refrain from comparing him to the Goalie in any shape or form?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,488 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Daft comment? how would you describe him being so un-droppable then? playing ability? please say playing ability so I can ram the daft comment, comment back at you. He's not undroppable. He was dropped at the start of the season when we had better options (e.g. Barton and Rossiter) in the holding role. Its tough to drop him at the moment because we've literally no alternative 'holding' midfielder. He's in no way good enough, but to call him 'the ultimate lick arse' is a daft comment. You've no idea of how he conducts himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, K.A.I said: That save from Van Hooijdonk the season before in the 3-3 Ibrox game. Still the best save I've ever seen and that game was at a time when I was a teenager, right into football and watching every game of football under the sun on Sky and Eurosport. Thinking about it now I don't think I've seen a better one period. World class and one of the best you'll ever see... McCloy Woods Klos Goram McGregor even An outstanding line-up of goalkeepers who have worn the jersey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Daft comment? how would you describe him being so un-droppable then? playing ability? please say playing ability so I can ram the daft comment, comment back at you. Ah but he's a Rangers man Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,581 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: Sorry, but one goal against the bheasts this season can hardly be classed as 'being relied on in bigger games'. Scored against the sheep, two goals to get us through in the cup and just about every goal he's scored this season has been in a game where we've won by a single goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,878 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: He's marginally better than some of them, but he's been pretty much anonymous for 3 in every 4 games. Scoring a few last minute winners doesn't make him infallible. Of course it doesn't but he at least shows up in some when most show up in none, that's the difference. At his age it's impossible to be what he was a decade ago in his prime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, graeme_4 said: He's not undroppable. He was dropped at the start of the season when we had better options (e.g. Barton and Rossiter) in the holding role. Its tough to drop him at the moment because we've literally no alternative 'holding' midfielder. He's in no way good enough, but to call him 'the ultimate lick arse' is a daft comment. You've no idea of how he conducts himself. Shut up ya blouse it was a throwaway comment. In fact do you know how he conducts himself? naw ye don't so shut the fuck up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, ianferguson said: OK we'll forget him trying to dribble Rogic in the six yard box and nearly costing a goal. Gilks is a journeyman and no more and please refrain from comparing him to the Goalie in any shape or form?. Can you no even give him credit for that game he was outstanding? it's meant to be me that get's it for not giving any credit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, K.A.I said: That save from Van Hooijdonk the season before in the 3-3 Ibrox game. Still the best save I've ever seen and that game was at a time when I was a teenager, right into football and watching every game of football under the sun on Sky and Eurosport. Thinking about it now I don't think I've seen a better one period. I have two games mixed up as I thought that point-blank-range save was in the same game as the penalty save (and Gascoigne's penalty miss) and also Van Vossen etc. You are absolutely spot-on with the comments about that save, regardless of which game it was in. I get slated all the time on here for saying this, but I have never seen a better shot-stopper in my lifetime than Andy Goram. Kahn, Schmeichel and Buffon can all fuck off. But maybe I am biased... I do mind this wee guy running rings around the hooped hordes. The fox in the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Funny how us fans can question the fighting spirit but god forbid anyone else especially ex players say anything!! gilks proved how good he was in the little game time he had but foderingham has been bar the odd mistake the difference between us sitting 3rd or lower down the league. its no coincidence that these 2 say similar things that the Brentford player said after warburton had finished there. The one common denominator in all 3 stories was the manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, WadeWilson said: I have two games mixed up as I thought that point-blank-range save was in the same game as the penalty save (and Gascoigne's penalty miss) and also Van Vossen etc. You are absolutely spot-on with the comments about that save, regardless of which game it was in. I get slated all the time on here for saying this, but I have never seen a better shot-stopper in my lifetime than Andy Goram. Kahn, Schmeichel and Buffon can all fuck off. But maybe I am biased... I do mind this wee guy running rings around the hooped hordes. The fox in the box. Just a tad biased Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,488 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Shut up ya blouse it was a daft throwaway comment. In fact do you know how he conducts himself? naw ye don't so shut the fuck up Fixed that for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, graeme_4 said: Fixed that for you. This is you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,488 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Of course it doesn't but he at least shows up in some when most show up in none, that's the difference. At his age it's impossible to be what he was a decade ago in his prime. Yeh, he offers marginally more than most. But he's not great, or even good anymore. He's dour faced and moans a lot, but it doesn't make him a leader or motivator. It's clearly not working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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