WadeWilson 4,670 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 hours ago, writingranger said: don't know where I'd keep any of them. In the fridge? Aye, but only after you open the tin... and consume within two days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontoblue76 120 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 14 hours ago, williamcarvel9 said: Warburton this season could have spent money on a couple of real quality players. Instead he wasted money on numbers. Next season I think we should address the spine of the team not numbers, so bring in a quality centre back, centre mid and striker. Spend 5-6 million in doing so and there should be some improvement. Therefore, I don't think we should have a massive clearout. Just get rid of shite like Senderos, O'Halloran, Dodoo etc Agree and in practical terms this is what it will be. Tearing up contracts is expensive (Barton?) - not sure Dodoo is one of the shite ones, though. With Kenny, it will probably come down to brutal economics: he will be on a decent wage & you can probably get a younger player with more future in him for the same price. Defintely should be goodbye to Senderos, O'Halloran and some others though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontoblue76 120 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said: Spine of the team is physically weak. We have a good keeper but we are powderpuff in midfield and right that we need a big fucker in defense. A take no prisoners centre half and a commanding CM and a goal scorer yes. You can see him bringing in his Godson (CB), the Portuguese boy we were linked with because he worked with him in Mexico (sorry, can't remember name) as a functioning mid and then either Weiss or the Hungarian guy from Saudi as the striker. Those buys alone would burst our budget but also (probably) materially improve the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennyBlueNose 652 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Actually I don't think this squad is too far away. I know this season has been dismal but let's cast our mind back to last season's semi-final when we matched them to a man. The only difference this season is Brenda and that they've added a couple of decent players to their squad bringing up the overall standard of their squad.  I think the same would apply to us, if we can add a few decent players then we're on the right path. Let's be honest the 'stars' of their squad arent exactly world class, Sinclair is ripping it up and was relegated from the EPL the year before, Dembele is a prospect and wouldn't get a game in most EPL teams so let's not think we need some world beaters to compete. If we can add 4-5 players of lower/mid EPL quality then I'm convinced we'll be fighting for 55 next season.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil1418 60 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 None, this lot has had their chance, obviously not talented enough poor squad sorry to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,799 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Wes. But it would depend on how many and who came in. Â In reality there isn't going to be a mass clear out or many players coming in so Pedro better get his finger out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The thing about Miller and Hill's contracts are, how likely is it we're going to get rid of players like Kiernan, Waghorn, Garner etc. If we can get rid of Kiernan and Senderos, I'm happy to keep Hill and if we can get rid of 2 of Waghorn/Garner/Dodoo then I'm happy to keep Miller. Imo, we need at least 3 new starting defenders, 2 new CMs, a RW and 2 strikers. Are we going to sign that many players AGAIN? I don't know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennyBlueNose 652 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 18 hours ago, Torontoblue76 said: yes. You can see him bringing in his Godson (CB), the Portuguese boy we were linked with because he worked with him in Mexico (sorry, can't remember name) as a functioning mid and then either Weiss or the Hungarian guy from Saudi as the striker. Those buys alone would burst our budget but also (probably) materially improve the team. I'd quite like to be linked with someone I don't have to Google for once. Is there any truth in that Weiss rumour do you know? Boy at my work said he's said he wants to come. And any idea how he's got on since he left us? Is he still a good wee player or what? Can't have gone too well for him if he's ended up in the middle east Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Contract ends 2017  I'd keep Kenny but have him coaching and covering injuries, Id try to get Hyndman's loan extendedKenny Miller (37)/31.05.2017/£340k Philippe Senderos (32) /31.05.2017/£638k Clint Hill (38)/31.05.2017/£340k Emerson Hyndman (20)/31.05.2017/loan Jon Toral (22)/31.05.2017/loanTOTAL £1,318,00 Contract ends 2018 I'd sell or loan these player outDanny Wilson (25)/31.05.2018/£425k Rob Kiernan (26)/31.05.2018/£340k David Bates (20)/31.05.2018/ £43k Niko Kranjcar (32)/31.05.2018/£850k Barrie McKay (22)/31.05.2018/£595k Martyn Waghorn (27) 31.05.2018 £638kTOTAL £2,891,00 Contract ends 2019 I'd only keep Wes and sell the restLee Wallace (29)/31.05.2019/£850k James Tavernier (26)/31.05.2019/£553k Lee Hodson (25)/31.05.2019/£298k Wes Foderingham (26)/31.05.2019/£383k Harry Forrester (26)/31.05.2019/£298k Joe Garner (28)/31.05.2019/£510kTOTAL £2,892,000 Contract ends 2020 I'd keep these player but sell in 2019Jason Holt (24)/31.05.2020/£425k Andy Halliday (25)/31.05.2020/£638k Jordan Rossiter (20)/31.05.2020/£638k Jak Alnwick (23)/31.05.2020/£255k Josh Windass (23)/31.05.2020/£255k Joe Dodoo (21)/31.05.2020/£213k Michael O'Halloran (26)/31.05.2020/£425kTOTAL  2,849,000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,760 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 @Sweetheart a don't want to sound too forward but I'll make you cum the way your man can't. Pm me. Geo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Contract ends 2017  I'd keep Kenny but have him coaching and covering injuries, Id try to get Hyndman's loan extendedKenny Miller (37)/31.05.2017/£340k Philippe Senderos (32) /31.05.2017/£638k Clint Hill (38)/31.05.2017/£340k Emerson Hyndman (20)/31.05.2017/loan Jon Toral (22)/31.05.2017/loanTOTAL £1,318,00 Contract ends 2018 I'd sell or loan these player outDanny Wilson (25)/31.05.2018/£425k Rob Kiernan (26)/31.05.2018/£340k David Bates (20)/31.05.2018/ £43k Niko Kranjcar (32)/31.05.2018/£850k Barrie McKay (22)/31.05.2018/£595k Martyn Waghorn (27) 31.05.2018 £638kTOTAL £2,891,00 Contract ends 2019 I'd only keep Wes and sell the restLee Wallace (29)/31.05.2019/£850k James Tavernier (26)/31.05.2019/£553k Lee Hodson (25)/31.05.2019/£298k Wes Foderingham (26)/31.05.2019/£383k Harry Forrester (26)/31.05.2019/£298k Joe Garner (28)/31.05.2019/£510kTOTAL £2,892,000 Contract ends 2020 I'd keep these player but sell in 2019Jason Holt (24)/31.05.2020/£425k Andy Halliday (25)/31.05.2020/£638k Jordan Rossiter (20)/31.05.2020/£638k Jak Alnwick (23)/31.05.2020/£255k Josh Windass (23)/31.05.2020/£255k Joe Dodoo (21)/31.05.2020/£213k Michael O'Halloran (26)/31.05.2020/£425kTOTAL  2,849,000 So where's the rest of the money gone? Far less others, but Halliday one of the top earners on £638k? Some cunt needs sectioned! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Blue Avenger said: So where's the rest of the money gone? Far less others, but Halliday one of the top earners on £638k? Some cunt needs sectioned! That figure is their 'worth' on Transfermarkt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Kranjcar on an hourly rate of £425,000 then... Sweet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,283 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 2 hours ago, born a blue nose said: @Sweetheart a don't want to sound too forward but I'll make you cum the way your man can't. Pm me. Geo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,152 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Id like to make wholesale changes , but the reality is , unless DK opens his wallet that won't happen . Of those here , I think Wes and Barrie McKay are worth a start for our new manager . The sad thing is , I think if we are to make the kind of money available to make big changes , then those two are the ones that will probably finance it . Outside of that I'd keep the likes of Holt , Wallace and Miller ( even at that age ) . As squad members , Tavernier , Waghorn , Wilson and I'd like to see Forrester , Dodoo and O'Hallaran given a run to see what they can do . Actually think the board are as up for scrutiny here as much as the playing squad . The onus is very much on them right now to see what the future holds for us all . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 McKay, Wes, Tavernier (when he shows up) I still think Windass has a bit about him and would like to see more. If Rossiter ever gets fit again then him. Garner I'd keep but get a better forward to play beside him. And push the boat out to get Hyndman for another season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontoblue76 120 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 On 2017-04-07 at 2:29 PM, DennyBlueNose said: I'd quite like to be linked with someone I don't have to Google for once. Is there any truth in that Weiss rumour do you know? Boy at my work said he's said he wants to come. And any idea how he's got on since he left us? Is he still a good wee player or what? Can't have gone too well for him if he's ended up in the middle east No idea if it's true but I'm sure he wants to come. Has scored twice in World Cup Qualifiers for Slovakia recently so he's still got it. He is in the middle East because he is on US$40,000 a week tax free - end of. Their league is shite and he will be desperate to come. Same with the god-son and Kristian Nemeth, their Number 9, who has played for Hungary full international side and I think was once on the books at an EPL team. If I were Pedro I would say to them; "Listen boys. I was on two million a year and I more than halved my wages to make the step up and get a shop window. Do the same.' He also knows good guys from Mexico and FC Tigres (for instance) are a stick-on to win the North and Central American Champions League. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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