SeparateEntityMyArse 53,714 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, K.A.I said: I'm not basing anything on 1 game though if that was the case I'd free transfer Fod in the morning Aye fair point, I just wonder if he's a luxury player when things are going well rather than a game changer. He's dipped in form since PC came in, I'm not sure it's a coincidence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,333 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Foderingham Tavernier Wallace Hill McKay Miller Dodoo Not all as first picks but the squad, the rest can go, problem is we don't have the dough to replace them with the quality needed, it'll be quantity over quality for a few windows yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DESGER 241 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Aye fair point, I just wonder if he's a luxury player when things are going well rather than a game changer. He's dipped in form since PC came in, I'm not sure it's a coincidence. Think he would benefit with an older/stronger enforcer type Centre mid beside him. Won't be with us anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHaw 513 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Our whole squad is made up of squad players outwith maybe Wes, we need a full evaluation and gutting of the squad. None of the players except possible Wes should be in our starting 11 next year if we are looking to push for a competitive title race. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietspam 733 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Who do we keep? How to we sell? Who in their right mind is gonna buy our shite players? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,481 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The problem is if we punt 10 players we will do exactly what we've kept doing, bring in another 10 cheap/freebies. Punt 4/5 and bring in 4/5 quality players. A striker and a RW would be my two priorites, followed by CMs and a CB. But make each signing at the quality good enough. I'd rather we signed 3 quality players than 8 barrel scrapes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: Tell them all tomorrow that they are going onto the transfer list, either prove themselves to the next employer or prove their Rangers standard. They have 5 games left to do either. They have reached their level and they are all the player that they are going to be. Maybe a player in Beerman and of course Hyndman is quality, but he isn't ours. As for the rest, not good enough now and never will be. including Fod's, as he has too many weaknesses. Great shot stopper, but does have two left feet, his distribution is abomniable and embarassing at times, doesn't command his area and could be held responsble for both goals today, whilst at the same time he saved us from an even more embarrassing defeat, but he is not what we need. Top keepers just don't have that many weaknesses. So it's Beerman for me and the rest can get to fuck, not they we will be able to move on so many due to contractual obligations and then we are limited by whatever King decides is a budget and I doubt it will be much, with two court actions hanging over our heads. We are not in a good place and we will not be in a position to challenge the scum next season or for the foreseeable whilst we are strapped for cash, so we either accept that and lower our expectations or seriously challenge this board, as it all comes down to money at the end of the day, to replace the squad we are left with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,238 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 For me only two, Fod and Tav, with Tav there's a player in there somewhere, just needs better players around him, only pass marks today was for these two also, the rest can fuck off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Get Rid: Hill, Kiernan, Garner , Miller, Halliday, Waghorn, Holt, Senderos, Kranjcar, Rossiter and MOH Keep: Wes, Hodson, Alnwick (assume he is ok), Wilson, Tav, Wallace, McKay, Windass and Dodoo Try and keep: Toral and Hyndman Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Foderingham only. But realistically, no more than 3 or 4 of that entire squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, cushynumber said: Get Rid: Hill, Kiernan, Garner , Miller, Halliday, Waghorn, Holt, Senderos, Kranjcar, Rossiter and MOH Keep: Wes, Hodson, Alnwick (assume he is ok), Wilson, Tav, Wallace, McKay, Windass and Dodoo Try and keep: Toral and Hyndman I'd keep all of them you suggest apart from Hodson- I can't see why you would keep him when he barely gets a game as it is. I'd keep Halliday, Holt, Waghorn, and Garner, because do we have the option of getting better with the budget we operate on. It is definitely the end of the line for the others, although if Rossiter were to get fit then who knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, williamcarvel9 said: It's fairly obvious that there will be a revolving door this summer. Who do we let go. Personally mine is Toral/Hyndman will go back obviously Senderos Hill Halliday Windass Garner Waghorn O'Halloran Crooks Dodoo Who the fucks going to take them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Turnberry18 said: I'd keep all of them apart from Hodson; I can't see why you would keep him when he barely gets a game as it is. I'd keep Halliday, Holt, Waghorn, and Garner, because do we have the option of getting better with the budget we operate on. It is definitely the end of the line for the others, although if Rossiter were to get fit then who knows. mate there are better than those three currently playing for other teams in the SPFL and to be honest I am not that fussed re Hodson, he can go as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, cushynumber said: mate there are better than those three currently playing for other teams in the SPFL and to be honest I am not that fussed re Hodson, he can go as well. If only we had a decent budget, that is what we really need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, Turnberry18 said: If only we had a decent budget, that is what we really need. yup. Someone I think said in another thread - we need someone who wants to blow £20 Million on players, not continue counting shares and loans and god knows what as "investment" and then act as if he is doing us all a favour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,708 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, cushynumber said: mate there are better than those three currently playing for other teams in the SPFL and to be honest I am not that fussed re Hodson, he can go as well. Halliday, Waghorn and Garner would be high on my list of being shown the door None of them anywhere near the quality we need. Thought they were awful today. I'm fed up with Waghorn missing good chances over an extended period, you know he is going to fuck it up. Garner doesn't even look like a football player. Halliday, no pace, no bite in a tackle and no vision. 1 minute ago, cushynumber said: yup. Someone I think said in another thread - we need someone who wants to blow £20 Million on players, not continue counting shares and loans and god knows what as "investment" and then act as if he is doing us all a favour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Custer 516 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, cushynumber said: Get Rid: Hill, Kiernan, Garner , Miller, Halliday, Waghorn, Holt, Senderos, Kranjcar, Rossiter and MOH Keep: Wes, Hodson, Alnwick (assume he is ok), Wilson, Tav, Wallace, McKay, Windass and Dodoo Try and keep: Toral and Hyndman I'd also add Bates and Berman to that list. Ideally we'd cull the lot of them but who's going to sign all that deadwood, plus there's no way we'd build a squad from he haw barring a 30 million cash injection and obviously that'll never happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, General Custer said: I'd also add Bates and Berman to that list. Ideally we'd cull the lot of them but who's going to sign all that deadwood, plus there's no way we'd build a squad from he haw barring a 30 million cash injection and obviously that'll never happen Hill, Miller senderos and krancjar will be gone - probably into retirement. We would need clubs to go for Kiernan, Garner, Halliday waghorn, Holt, Rossiter and MOH I think we could get buyers or release most of them back down south to the lower divisions with the exception or Rossiter who appears permanently injured and nobody in their right mind would take at the moment Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Custer 516 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, cushynumber said: Hill, Miller senderos and krancjar will be gone - probably into retirement. We would need clubs to go for Kiernan, Garner, Halliday waghorn, Holt, Rossiter and MOH I think we could get buyers or release most of them back down south to the lower divisions with the exception or Rossiter who appears permanently injured and nobody in their right mind would take at the moment I'd take any kind of fee for most of them tbh. We've spunked enough cash on these shiftless chancing bastards to have to pay them off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,714 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Only the 2 loanees and those out of contract in Miller Hill and Senderos are likely to go. The others most agree have been shite so we'll be lucky if they're in demand elsewhere. They'll go if THEY want to go rather than if we want them to. Or we pay them off whilst funding new signings which we all know isn't going to happen. We're in a mess for this summer unless PC can get better than the 5 I'd expect to leave as above, and gets more out of the rest who will likely go nowhere. Shambles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Only the 2 loanees and those out of contract in Miller Hill and Senderos are likely to go. The others most agree have been shite so we'll be lucky if they're in demand elsewhere. They'll go if THEY want to go rather than if we want them to. Or we pay them off whilst funding new signings which we all know isn't going to happen. We're in a mess for this summer unless PC can get better than the 5 I'd expect to leave as above, and gets more out of the rest who will likely go nowhere. Shambles. That's exactly what needs to happen. We need rid of them. The board have to step up and pay, for contract pay offs and new players. This squad needs ripped apart and rebuilt. Again. That will be 4 or 5 times in the last 5 or 6 years. Diabolical operating of any football club at any level never mind one as historically great in stature like ours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Only the 2 loanees and those out of contract in Miller Hill and Senderos are likely to go. The others most agree have been shite so we'll be lucky if they're in demand elsewhere. They'll go if THEY want to go rather than if we want them to. Or we pay them off whilst funding new signings which we all know isn't going to happen. We're in a mess for this summer unless PC can get better than the 5 I'd expect to leave as above, and gets more out of the rest who will likely go nowhere. Shambles. they shouldnt be on contracts that are that big. We keep hearing how rich clubs are down south even in some of the lower divisions, so i would be surprised: 1. that we have them on big contracts in the first place given our finances 2. clubs down south couldnt match them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,631 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 quicker telling you who id keep here goes.... His coaching staff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,435 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Think all of our squad is much the same level. No one really stands out. If we put a bit of quality in the squad and a few proven winners, we might see more from some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'd keep fods hill (unless bringing quality centre halfs in ) miller tav and hodgson that's it maybe doodo but no convinced he's good enough either Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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