mully10 8 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 After attending the recent public meeting I was deeply saddened that three good, committed Rangers people had chosen to walk away on a point of principle, and the way that the remaining board members choose to ignore their concerns and in truth show a negativity towards them. I attended as an individual Rangers supporter, I am not a member of any clique, faction, supporters club or self-interest group, I am just somebody who has passionately supported my club for over 30 years and was proud to be one of many thousand Rangers fans. Since the three directors have left the organisation doesn't appear to be functioning with little or no day to day operations visible and no social media presence. The sitting directors must be aware that there are a lot of unhappy members but their silence is deafening. Overtures have been made by some of the resigning directors to come back on board but this doesn't seem to be going anywhere. So here we have an organisation with over 8000 members and a large quantity of shares and money which appears to have stalled. Like a lot of people I am going to reluctantly cancel my monthly payment as I don't have faith in the majority of the sitting directors. We have seen the resigning directors honesty be questioned, anonymous twitter accounts make schoolboy taunts at them, one of the sitting directors breach data protection/privacy laws by recording the recent public meeting without the consent of those present, an inability for directors to quantify the exact membership numbers and an apparent disregard for a large number of members concerns over what caused the initial bust up and their subsequent actions. I will remain a life member and believe passionately in the merits of what the organisation was set up to achieve, but I'm afraid it may be time for a change, if the sitting directors choose to ignore what the resigning directors did and could do for the organisation and want to keep them outside then whose interest are they serving, personally I don't believe it's that of the organisation or the members, what do other people think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 we in a time warp here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,410 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 They should refund all monies as it is a toxic scheme run by toxic individuals. Anyone still putting their hard earned into this need to have a look at themselves. Not fit for purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Mate, you've signed up here so you're part of Big Mike's clique now. Welcome. You should be receiving your welcome pack any day now. Slazzy slip ons, pack of 30 Donnay sports socks, a baseball cap with flames on it and an Everlast jacket Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,019 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 More like Club 2012... Am I right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,773 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, mully10 said: After attending the recent public meeting I was deeply saddened that three good, committed Rangers people had chosen to walk away on a point of principle, and the way that the remaining board members choose to ignore their concerns and in truth show a negativity towards them. I attended as an individual Rangers supporter, I am not a member of any clique, faction, supporters club or self-interest group, I am just somebody who has passionately supported my club for over 30 years and was proud to be one of many thousand Rangers fans. Since the three directors have left the organisation doesn't appear to be functioning with little or no day to day operations visible and no social media presence. The sitting directors must be aware that there are a lot of unhappy members but their silence is deafening. Overtures have been made by some of the resigning directors to come back on board but this doesn't seem to be going anywhere. So here we have an organisation with over 8000 members and a large quantity of shares and money which appears to have stalled. Like a lot of people I am going to reluctantly cancel my monthly payment as I don't have faith in the majority of the sitting directors. We have seen the resigning directors honesty be questioned, anonymous twitter accounts make schoolboy taunts at them, one of the sitting directors breach data protection/privacy laws by recording the recent public meeting without the consent of those present, an inability for directors to quantify the exact membership numbers and an apparent disregard for a large number of members concerns over what caused the initial bust up and their subsequent actions. I will remain a life member and believe passionately in the merits of what the organisation was set up to achieve, but I'm afraid it may be time for a change, if the sitting directors choose to ignore what the resigning directors did and could do for the organisation and want to keep them outside then whose interest are they serving, personally I don't believe it's that of the organisation or the members, what do other people think? I never joined mate but can understand if you thought the idea might work why many did. Unfortunately any fans group that is instigated by the Rangers board can never be independent from them. Your money is better in your own pocket than given to the group of four wankers left IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,773 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, Getstiffed said: Mate, you've signed up here so you're part of Big Mike's clique now. Welcome. You should be receiving your welcome pack any day now. Slazzy slip ons, pack of 30 Donnay sports socks, a baseball cap with flames on it and an Everlast jacket It is such a nice feeling when that pack arrives, makes you proud so it does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,625 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 41 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: More like Club 2012... Am I right? Think you're wrong here mate, doesn't read this way to me. OP - wee bit of advice is to remove any personal details from your personal profile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Getstiffed said: Mate, you've signed up here so you're part of Big Mike's clique now. Welcome. You should be receiving your welcome pack any day now. Slazzy slip ons, pack of 30 Donnay sports socks, a baseball cap with flames on it and an Everlast jacket No big cup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centenarystand 2,227 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 "an individual Rangers supporter, I am not a member of any clique, faction, supporters club or self-interest group". I know what you mean by that and i cant get my head round those that are especially in the current climate. No wonder the support gets fucked over left right and centre when some cant even get on with each other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 30 minutes ago, loyalfollower said: No big cup? We've stopped giving out cups mate we felt it was insensitive after this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Is Club 1872 still going? I said with it being compromised from the start it would never work. Just another vehicle to get Supporters money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,197 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Not fit for purpose. A vehicle devised by cunts like Gilligan and Murray to get their hands on RF money, exercise control over the RF/RST shares and stop any dissenting voices from the support. Aided and abetted by fan spiv vermin such as Chris Graham and Greg Marshall. It is now what it was always inevitably heading to be. A joke organisation "managed" by fan-spivs, blazer-chasers and useful-idiots but controlled by the rats on the Rangers board. Only a complete moron would continue to put their money into this ridiculous sham. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 2 hours ago, mully10 said: I will remain a life member and believe passionately in the merits of what the organisation was set up to achieve How can/could you believe passionately in an organisation with such a vague remit as it's founding principles? Unless your passion is giving your money away to people with no expectation of anything in return. In a sense club 1872 has done exactly what it set out to do, which is to do very little and receive significant financial backing to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utility Man 26 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, The Beast said: Not fit for purpose. A vehicle devised by cunts like Gilligan and Murray to get their hands on RF money, exercise control over the RF/RST shares and stop any dissenting voices from the support. Aided and abetted by fan spiv vermin such as Chris Graham and Greg Marshall. It is now what it was always inevitably heading to be. A joke organisation "managed" by fan-spivs, blazer-chasers and useful-idiots but controlled by the rats on the Rangers board. Only a complete moron would continue to put their money into this ridiculous sham. I honestly don't think Gilligan and Murray are that smart! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 From Joanne on FF Quote Club1872 Update: Laura and I have had some positive engagement with James Blair since the members meeting. We still believe in Club 1872. Despite feeling our concerns at the point of resignation were still valid, since then we have seen many opportunities where we could have had a positive impact on the running of the organisation. We were encouraged by members at the meeting and those who have contacted us privately urging us to go back. A number of members have offered their assistance if we went back. Last Thursday we made a formal offer to return as directors. We believe this would allow us to make a meaningful contribution to Club 1872. This was welcomed by James Blair. It is our understanding he is in discussion with the other three directors and await their response. Club 1872 is a members lead organisation. So it our feeling that it would be right for this decision to be put to members via a poll to allow them to decide. We are still within the year we were elected to serve and if members gave us the opportunity we would put the same commitment we put in prior to our resignations No mention of D'Art / Iain - so it looks like someone is at least sticking by their principles. Sorry to see Joanne and Laura sell out though, thought they would at least hold their ground* *unless Houston is stepping down, finally acknowledging how divisive he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I honestly can't believe how clique our fan base is. Why the fuck do grown adult men agree with your houstons, Dingwall and grahams? It's beyond madness why some are unable to think for themselves and make decisions based on what we know rather than what might be. boycotting merchandise?? We must be the only club in the world where this happens. As for board member criteria I doubt every other successful club has full on supporters on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,197 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Utility Man said: I honestly don't think Gilligan and Murray are that smart! Low animal cunning rather than smart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Can sum this up for you c1872 should disband. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utility Man 26 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 6 hours ago, The Beast said: Low animal cunning rather than smart. Beast I still wouldn't attribute either with even that ability. I've met Gilligan on 3 occasions, nice guy , but how he achieved the senior role at Tennent's,I'll never know? Paul Murray I have never met , but his CV of business failures does not suggest a " cunning plan Baldrick!" 2 duds enjoying the limelight, no money to offer and certainly no business acumen either. I hope they prove me wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Utility Man said: Beast I still wouldn't attribute either with even that ability. I've met Gilligan on 3 occasions, nice guy , but how he achieved the senior role at Tennent's,I'll never know? Paul Murray I have never met , but his CV of business failures does not suggest a " cunning plan Baldrick!" 2 duds enjoying the limelight, no money to offer and certainly no business acumen either. I hope they prove me wrong. They won't Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 C1872, are they still around, I figured they would have been replaced by a new scam , sorry scheme by now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Utility Man said: Beast I still wouldn't attribute either with even that ability. I've met Gilligan on 3 occasions, nice guy , but how he achieved the senior role at Tennent's,I'll never know? Paul Murray I have never met , but his CV of business failures does not suggest a " cunning plan Baldrick!" 2 duds enjoying the limelight, no money to offer and certainly no business acumen either. I hope they prove me wrong. Simply following orders with promises of future hand outs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utility Man 26 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: Simply following orders with promises of future hand outs. Sadly, this could be the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Shouldn't they just be putting the padlocks on the doors and handing over all the cash to Whitney? The objective achieved and we can all move on from that fucking soap opera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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