gersandy 594 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I remember that Partick game. A dafty on the bus was saying to everybody weve signed the new brian laudrup, he'll terrorise defences for years. Then an old guy told him his age, the cunt was well embarrassed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,086 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, Cobham said: Sorry but he is worth nothing. I'd be astounded if we got 100-200k. At his age and with his injury record he is worth nothing. Injurury prone players get punted for big money all the time... he isnt the youngest, granted, but I guarantee that he is someone that the likes of Redknapp trust. Im not saying he would go for relative big money, but he is certainly worth something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tavernator 279 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: That average game is where he played that wonderful defence splitting pass for Waghorn, I think, for a goal. My point is, that even when he is average he is better than most of our players, when it comes to ball to feet. In saying that he isn't what we need, unfortunately. I wish there was a place for players like him though. I think there will be a place for him in Pedro's system where he wants fast attacks. The ability to ping a 40 yarder right to the toe of a striker is invaluable. NK has the eye to see what's required in the moment and the ability to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 There's a reason he was hanging about in the lower leagues in the USA and is now in the Scottish Premiership. Would drive him down there myself for £500k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, johanhentze said: Injurury prone players get punted for big money all the time... he isnt the youngest, granted, but I guarantee that he is someone that the likes of Redknapp trust. Im not saying he would go for relative big money, but he is certainly worth something. Injury prone 33 year old come the start of next season having played 15 and 7 games the last two seasons, but probably still on big wages... we're getting nowt for him mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,086 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Tavernator said: I think there will be a place for him in Pedro's system where he wants fast attacks. The ability to ping a 40 yarder right to the toe of a striker is invaluable. NK has the eye to see what's required in the moment and the ability to do it. This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,086 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, Inigo said: Injury prone 33 year old come the start of next season having played 9 and 7 games the last two seasons, but probably still on big wages... we're getting nowt for him mate. We might not, but I wouldnt write it off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If we can't get any money for him I'd keep him on in his last year, type of player that can win us a scrappy game against a poor side if you get him on for the last 30 minutes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Too slow and too injury prone. Bin him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Tavernator said: I think there will be a place for him in Pedro's system where he wants fast attacks. The ability to ping a 40 yarder right to the toe of a striker is invaluable. NK has the eye to see what's required in the moment and the ability to do it. The problem is Pedro seems to like workers who will press, press, press. Kranjcar is 100% not that, and he doesn't have the legs from what I've seen. I just don't see us being able to afford to have someone, especially in midfield, that's as immobile as he seemed to be and only really has interest/ability in a forward going capacity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 should be gone asap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, RDFM said: If we can't get any money for him I'd keep him on in his last year, type of player that can win us a scrappy game against a poor side if you get him on for the last 30 minutes. Do we really want to pay a substantial wage for a last 30 minute player? Can we afford that kind of luxury? Anyone know how much he's actually on, btw? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,086 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Inigo said: The problem is Pedro seems to like workers who will press, press, press. Kranjcar is 100% not that, and he doesn't have the legs from what I've seen. I just don't see us being able to afford to have someone, especially in midfield, that's as immobile as he seemed to be and only really has interest/ability in a forward going capacity. I agree that he is not a grafter, but he can be the key to unlock a tight defence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, johanhentze said: I agree that he is not a grafter, but he can be the key to unlock a tight defence. He can be, but I don't think we're good enough to be able to carry someone like Kranjcar in terms of the rest of the game. I also don't think he showed that he could unlock a defence consistently enough when he was fit. If he was on a few hundred k, I'd maybe say he was worth the risk. If he's on as much as I'd suspect, not so, especially given all the other risks of frailty, age and having played very little football over a number of years. We need a player that can bring more to the party, and at less of a risk, if we're paying them one of our highest wages. We're just not flush enough to take those kinds of gambles if we can avoid it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Inigo said: Do we really want to pay a substantial wage for a last 30 minute player? Can we afford that kind of luxury? Anyone know how much he's actually on, btw? The truth is, we can't. I like him but we need something else at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,625 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Surely the Redknapp thing is just an overplayed meme at this point? I think the safe option would be to get rid if we can. Injury prone, takes months to achieve any reasonable fitness and i personally only feel comfortable using him to turn the screw against relegation fodder at home. Not a bad asset to have from a position of strength, but given the job on our hands at present i'd say we could use his reported wage better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,086 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Inigo said: He can be, but I don't think we're good enough to be able to carry someone like Kranjcar in terms of the rest of the game. I also don't think he showed that he could unlock a defence consistently enough when he was fit. If he was on a few hundred k, I'd maybe say he was worth the risk. If he's on as much as I'd suspect, not so, especially given all the other risks of frailty, age and having played very little football over a number of years. We need a player that can bring more to the party, and at less of a risk, if we're paying them one of our highest wages. We're just not flush enough to take those kinds of gambles if we can avoid it. I do agree with you, but I still think he has some resale value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Helicopter Sundae 5,980 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, gkb10127 said: Apparently he is odds on favourite to join redknapp at Birmingham city. How long does he have left on his contract and what kind of fee could we get for him? I would personally love him to stay because I think he is a class act and a cracking player when fit. Caixinha should give him a chance. Personally I think rossiter and kranjcar should be given a run of games when they are fit again Who is this Rossiter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 5,980 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, johanhentze said: I do agree with you, but I still think he has some resale value. just for you... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=niko+kranjcar&rlz=1C1KMZB_enGB562GB563&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9vPGEnOjTAhUiJcAKHXa_DX0Q_AUICygC&biw=896&bih=474 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 5,980 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: I meant just for you. FTRU https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=niko+kranjcar&rlz=1C1KMZB_enGB562GB563&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9vPGEnOjTAhUiJcAKHXa_DX0Q_AUICygC&biw=896&bih=474 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,086 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Helicopter Sundae said: just for you... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=niko+kranjcar&rlz=1C1KMZB_enGB562GB563&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9vPGEnOjTAhUiJcAKHXa_DX0Q_AUICygC&biw=896&bih=474 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,582 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Helicopter Sundae said: I meant just for you. FTRU https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=niko+kranjcar&rlz=1C1KMZB_enGB562GB563&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj9vPGEnOjTAhUiJcAKHXa_DX0Q_AUICygC&biw=896&bih=474 Still sad. He should get a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: Still sad. He should get a chance. This is a football club, BNB, not a glorified scud book. We can't sign or keep players based on your womanly needs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 37 minutes ago, Inigo said: Do we really want to pay a substantial wage for a last 30 minute player? Can we afford that kind of luxury? Anyone know how much he's actually on, btw? If we can't get rid of him then I'd rather keep his contract for a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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