hammer93 15,024 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 This is for older bears, I was watching games on YouTube last night and I came across games against Dundee in the early 80s the lad Ferguson scored a few goals against us and we eventually paid good money to sign him, again he looked decent in some of the highlights, what I want to know as my memory is a bit sketchy on this.....what happened to him.....did he flop, have a fallout with big Jock or was it the emergence of McCoist that eventually made him surplus to requirements.....I genuinely don't remember why he never made it at us during that period when we had players like Davie Mitchell, Bobby Williamson and wee fleck getting games? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 IMO he couldn't really cope playing for a club like Rangers,a bit like Ian Redford who we also bought from Dundee I think Ferguson was decent but the expectation of being a Rangers player was too much at a difficult time for the club. Both Ferguson and Redford moved to Dundee United and both done well there so maybe proof they were happy playing for smaller clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Had an attitude problem and there were rumours he was not popular in the dressing room. He scored some spectacular goals but too often went missing in games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkintillochbear 48 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Free transfer to Dunfermline in mid 80s if I remember correctly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 If memory serves me right bit of a fall out with Jock Wallace for a spell , and transfer listed , then removed again until souness sold him to Dundee u for 145,000 I liked him as a striker we could have got more out-of him , scored few important goals cup final winner and against inter Milan , but inconsistent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, sandyinroyalblue said: IMO he couldn't really cope playing for a club like Rangers,a bit like Ian Redford who we also bought from Dundee I think Ferguson was decent but the expectation of being a Rangers player was too much at a difficult time for the club. Both Ferguson and Redford moved to Dundee United and both done well there so maybe proof they were happy playing for smaller clubs. Think your being bit harsh on Redford mate , I thought he was a good player in an average team for us, yes he had his off days and missed penalty in cup final but also scored winning goal in cup final in 82 was unlucky to be suspended for couple of finals ,I also remember reading souness wanted to buy him back from united but mclean wouldn't sell him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,348 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Last time I saw him was at least 25 years ago and he was selling sports gear at Ingliston Car Boot Sale Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,024 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kirkintillochbear said: Free transfer to Dunfermline in mid 80s if I remember correctly I think that was Eric Ferguson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, boyd09 said: Think your being bit harsh on Redford mate , I thought he was a good player in an average team for us, yes he had his off days and missed penalty in cup final but also scored winning goal in cup final in 82 was unlucky to be suspended for couple of finals ,I also remember reading souness wanted to buy him back from united but mclean wouldn't sell him I remember him being a better player for both Dundee teams than us but I take your point he was playing in a poor team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,024 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, boyd09 said: If memory serves me right bit of a fall out with Jock Wallace for a spell , and transfer listed , then removed again until souness sold him to Dundee u for 145,000 I liked him as a striker we could have got more out-of him , scored few important goals cup final winner and against inter Milan , but inconsistent It was at both they games, I was Only about 14 at the time and I remember being over the moon that we had signed him, he probably should of done better than he did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, Kirkintillochbear said: Free transfer to Dunfermline in mid 80s if I remember correctly Wrong Ferguson mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Did we sign Ferguson at the time as Cammy Fraser? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, hammer93 said: It was at both they games, I was Only about 14 at the time and I remember being over the moon that we had signed him, he probably should of done better than he did. As was I mate , he should have achieved more with us , I was at dens park in 81 we won 3 2 in that amazing red kit he scored against us this game and a lot of goals for Dundee in the the next couple of seasons , when we bought him I thought he would score for fun but I think he was a confidence type of player he would go on a good run of goals or barren spells we needed more than that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, sandyinroyalblue said: Did we sign Ferguson at the time as Cammy Fraser? Think we did a double deal mate 200,00 for Ferguson and 165;000 for Fraser Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEarle 9,680 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I remember him scoring the winner in the 1984 League Cup Final against Dundee Utd Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, SteveEarle said: I remember him scoring the winner in the 1984 League Cup Final against Dundee Utd Got soaked at hampden that day it pissed down great finish by Ferguson happy days Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, SteveEarle said: I remember him scoring the winner in the 1984 League Cup Final against Dundee Utd Won the League cup twice in 1984 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEarle 9,680 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, sandyinroyalblue said: Won the League cup twice in 1984 Yeah that's right! McCoist hatrick against the scum! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,024 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, boyd09 said: As was I mate , he should have achieved more with us , I was at dens park in 81 we won 3 2 in that amazing red kit he scored against us this game and a lot of goals for Dundee in the the next couple of seasons , when we bought him I thought he would score for fun but I think he was a confidence type of player he would go on a good run of goals or barren spells we needed more than that That was the first game I saw last night Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Jock Wallace 858 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just remember bears shouting "watch yer hair fergie" as he strutted about in his golden locks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 We had 4 Ferguson's didn't we (Eric, Derek, Ian and Iain) although not quite all at the same time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkintillochbear 48 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 56 minutes ago, hammer93 said: easy mistake to make Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 59,868 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Spoke to him a few years ago in the Forge Market he had a stall selling replica football jerseys...Did he not get his collar felt for them being a wee bit dodgy..??. Best game I saw him play was the 2nd Leg v Inter Milan when for a spell it looked like we could overturn a 3 nil deficit..Seemed a miserable guy when I spoke to him..and his replica tops were in hindsight pretty pish... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,530 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 hour ago, sandyinroyalblue said: Did we sign Ferguson at the time as Cammy Fraser? Called my dog Cammy after him. If we had done first he would have been Cammy instead of Scott! Think I told you that Scott ? if you're reading this! Also remember he had a moustache which was rarer than a Catholic in the dressing room! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,820 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 hours ago, boyd09 said: Got soaked at hampden that day it pissed down great finish by Ferguson happy days Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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