harlands plater 16,933 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I wonder who'll be at Forest longer, him or Warburton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryju84 3,170 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 32 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Thats a fucking joke tbh why do we constantly undervalue our players while the taigs get top dollar,we'd be better off keeping him than taking that pathetic offer Because we haven't won anything of worth in a while. If we progress in Europe this year, win the league and or Scottish Cup etc... then our players will be higher valued. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullies_bowly_legs 3,764 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 He really looked like he wanted to go so if, and its a big if, we have a good sell on percentage then its a good deal. He could have sat till Jan the negotiated his way out for nothing. We had to make the deal now to have any position of strength. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis1986 996 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Bad bit of business in my opinion, we got 850,000 for Lewis Macleod and he had only played in lower leagues for us. Ok Barrie hasn't exactly been consistent in top flight but he has played well against bigger teams than Macleod had at that point also he is a Scottish internationalist as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,332 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Cunts a know where up dancing about outside his maws hoose wae nae taps on pure blootered That was a great day that day man. He definitely doesn't think he is better than he is That last sentence may also be part of the problem. He has ability unquestionably but I personally don't think he has the mentality to achieve all he can. At his age with the number of games he's played he should be walking ot onto the pitch every week thinking he's the best player on the park. Or at the very least that he's going to be better than his direct opponent. That doesn't mean he should be arrogant, just entirely confident in his own ability. I could probably count on one hand the amount of times he's even had a spell in a game where he's looked like that, nevermind a run of matches consistently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,384 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, KBOO72 said: That last sentence may also be part of the problem. He has ability unquestionably but I personally don't think he has the mentality to achieve all he can. At his age with the number of games he's played he should be walking ot onto the pitch every week thinking he's the best player on the park. Or at the very least that he's going to be better than his direct opponent. That doesn't mean he should be arrogant, just entirely confident in his own ability. I could probably count on one hand the amount of times he's even had a spell in a game where he's looked like that, nevermind a run of matches consistently. Yeah I agree with all of your post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Can't even pretend to care tbh, Pedro wanted him out so we have to sell him for whatever the buying club is willing to pay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_an_extender 869 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 You look at some of the fees being talked of for the likes of McLean and Walker in their final year of contract. £500k is a disgraceful fee if true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal 136 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 pish poor business arguably are best asset regardless of his inconsistency    Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,238 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I really hope we aren't parting with him for that however won't  get to worked up about the price mentioned till we get confirmation. Agree we need to be realistic but all things considered he is worth more imo.  I'm not sure that board will be so stupid as previous in letting assets go for less than worth  Interesting to note that the one Warburton comes for is one that was there before him and not one he and the best in the business bought.  Prick.    Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 The boy had the opportunity to buckle down and become top player for us and Scotland but as his previous efforts have proven he's took the easy Half arsed route. Some players can't deal with harsh words and reality and need that old Warburton cuddle management and it's hardly surprising he's going back to him. in my opinion we are well rid of him although the price tag is utter shite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 24 minutes ago, MolsGoals said: Pathetic deal and Pedro hanging him out to dry probably shaved £500k - £1 mil off his final price. The way Barrie has been dealt with by fans and the manager leads me to think we will never be able to bring a young boy through, people can't see past flaws to recognise potential... Barrie has ample opportunity to prove himself he's been here for years now,  he's not good enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, OhW said: Why do people think we should commanding the same price for players as the taigs? We just finished behind Aberdeen for fuck sake. Comes up on a near daily basis and I don't why. celtic have been successful and have had individual players playing well. That means they can overvalue their players and people will buy into it. We have been shite and our players have been shite so nobody is going to buy it if we start putting overly inflated figures on shite players. We need to start doing well on the park, once we do that the players value will rise. Until then our players value will only reflect what they are and based on last season that's the third best team in the SPFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 That's a low fee. I'd hope there are further income linked to appearances and also a sell on clause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluenoseCanuck 64 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I defo agree that the fee is quite low but I would think there is more than meets the eye on this (I hope). If we have even a 15% sell on fee-which I'd except selling at that price. It could still get us a good bit of money. If he performs and can move on (especially with the silly transfers in England)-Kinda like the Charlie Adam deal to Blackpool. I am guessing the relationship between Barrie and us deteriorated and the board new we had to get rid of him asap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowRangers1983 461 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Come on Rangers WTF? thats silly money £500k for someone so young with bags of potential. As some else said we got that for billy gilmour who had not even played a full match and we are selling arguably our prize asset (12 months ago) for half a million.  Even with only 12 months we should of been getting 2.5 million. Half a million pounds in English championship is nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenDavis 112 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I don't think people are grasping the full picture here. Folk like MacLeod and Cummings did go for more but unless I'm wrong they didn't have 12 months left on their deal and it was already public that he had rejected a contract offer from us. That's the reason he's gone for £500k - if he had a year or two longer on his existing deal we would have gotten a better fee for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,942 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 33 minutes ago, WGOH said: Canny wait to see BA's opinion on this. No doubt it'll be the greatest thing to happen to the club since Barca 72.  29 minutes ago, MolsGoals said: Pathetic deal and Pedro hanging him out to dry probably shaved £500k - £1 mil off his final price. The way Barrie has been dealt with by fans and the manager leads me to think we will never be able to bring a young boy through, people can't see past flaws to recognise potential... Stop talking shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, StevenDavis said: I don't think people are grasping the full picture here. Folk like MacLeod and Cummings did go for more but unless I'm wrong they didn't have 12 months left on their deal and it was already public that he had rejected a contract offer from us. That's the reason he's gone for £500k - if he had a year or two on his existing deal we would have gotten a better fee for him. I think a more realistic comparison is to Walker and Hayes. Both had/have a year left on their deals and Hearts want £1,000,000 for Walker and Aberdeen got over £1,000,000 for Hayes. I do think Caixinha punting him to the U20's showed our hand and probably knocked some value off what we could have got for him, but to only get £500,000 for him from a club in a league that spends more money every season is really, really poor IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,453 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 We all probably hoped he'd go for more. But 500k is still a good return. Hopefully negotiated good sell on clauses too. Bank the money and move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 54 minutes ago, VladimirWeiss69 said: That is bull shit, he might be inconsistent but he is worth far more than that. I am a bit more concerned that the useless fud waghorn is at the club, I also hope we bring in another winger as dalcio looked far from convincing the other day Yes but dalcio has played 1 game let him have a chance to play for us before writing him off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dado'sMulls 2,592 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Forest chasing promotion to the EPL with players unproven outside the Scottish championship lol. Good luck with that Warbzy.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,866 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 500k is embarrassing but not a surprise. We have been garbage at getting decent fees for our players for years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenDavis 112 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, OhW said: He does have a year left.  Was meant to say a year or two longer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,453 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Remember as well Warburton knows how shite we are at negotiating, and pretty much anything financial related. The prick was hardly likely to do us any favours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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