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6 hours ago, the_r_sole said:

A manager can only stabilise a club with a combination of time and money, a luxury a third manager in a year wouldn't have.

And my question was a what if, it's possible that a manager coming in now would have a difficult start to the season, so just saying it wouldn't happen isn't really an answer.

Did Walter Smith not stabilise the club in the time between Le Guen leaving and the end of that season? We secured 2nd place and even got a couple results against them. A foundation to build on for the next season. 

The players Walter had weren't his own, ok he brought in a couple smart signings like Weir and Ehiogu but the majority of his team was Le Guens. 

A good manager at least shows signs, gets a reaction, sorts the immediate problems. Caixinha has done nothing baring a fluke result against Aberdeen. 

Why should we continue? 

What if McInnes did actually have a couple bad results? Then same rule applies, why continue? However, there's a massive difference between having a couple bad results, sometimes that can happen in football, however Caixinha has been in charge for more than one embarrassing results and since he's been here I've yet to see one idea, one gameplan or one substitute he's made that effected the game. In my opinion he is the smart decision but that doesn't make me right, that's why the board/DOF are tasked with these duties. 

Chopping and changing managers is a modern way of thinking, it's not uncommon. It's up to the people making the decisions to get that right. If they continue to get that wrong then they should be looking at themselves. 

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22 minutes ago, Ryan_1 said:

Did Walter Smith not stabilise the club in the time between Le Guen leaving and the end of that season? We secured 2nd place and even got a couple results against them. A foundation to build on for the next season. 

The players Walter had weren't his own, ok he brought in a couple smart signings like Weir and Ehiogu but the majority of his team was Le Guens. 

A good manager at least shows signs, gets a reaction, sorts the immediate problems. Caixinha has done nothing baring a fluke result against Aberdeen. 

Why should we continue? 

What if McInnes did actually have a couple bad results? Then same rule applies, why continue? However, there's a massive difference between having a couple bad results, sometimes that can happen in football, however Caixinha has been in charge for more than one embarrassing results and since he's been here I've yet to see one idea, one gameplan or one substitute he's made that effected the game. In my opinion he is the smart decision but that doesn't make me right, that's why the board/DOF are tasked with these duties. 

Chopping and changing managers is a modern way of thinking, it's not uncommon. It's up to the people making the decisions to get that right. If they continue to get that wrong then they should be looking at themselves. 

Completely different when there's some good quality in the playing squad you take over!

Compare the players Smith inherited with what we have now, the squad needed overhauled when Pedro took over.

Any manager inheriting the squad Pedro did would not have been able to stabilise the club without significant investment in the playing squad, this was recognised universally.

I'll say it again, no decent manager would want to take over at a club who sack a manager in the middle of his first transfer window with a turnaround of 16 players and a newly appointed director of football - would show the club to be a basket case.(who have spent all their money)

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Rangers 1st Half:- Aidan McAdams; Jordan Houston, Aidan Wilson, Lewis Mayo, Myles Beerman; Jamie Barjonas, Harry Forrester; Trialist No.10; Michal O’Halloran (Andy Dallas 19 mins); Zak Rudden, Matthew Shiels.

Rangers 2nd Half:- Kieran Wright; Michael Hewitt, Danny Finlayson, Jason Krones, Trialist No.16; Grant Nelson; Mati Zata, Izzak Ahmed; Andy Dallas (Matthew Shiels 62 mins), Trialist No.10 (Zak Rudden 62 mins), Scott Gray.

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1 hour ago, Elfideldo said:

Tynecastle had a very comfortable 3-1  win over East Stirling tonight. Looks like they have made a significant improvment from last season.

A Rangers team should still be beating them though.

FFS! How many times does it need to be repeated that this wasn't "a Rangers team". It was fucking boys supplemented by Forrester and O'Halloran.

Honestly, I give up with this place.

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3 minutes ago, BigDak said:

FFS! How many times does it need to be repeated that this wasn't "a Rangers team". It was fucking boys supplemented by Forrester and O'Halloran.

Honestly, I give up with this place.

It's clearly still a "rangers team". Four of the starters have started for rangers in a league match. The rest are players who are all signed on full time professional contracts with the club.  

You're trying to make out it was a team of 14 year old ball boys. It wasn't. 

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26 minutes ago, gsa said:

It's clearly still a "rangers team". Four of the starters have started for rangers in a league match. The rest are players who are all signed on full time professional contracts with the club.  

You're trying to make out it was a team of 14 year old ball boys. It wasn't. 

You're apparently trying to make out that even if it was a team of 14 year olds and four of them had miraculously started a game for the first team it'd still be a Rangers team.

Two of those four starters wouldn't have been near the first team if it hadn't been for injuries and Forester and O'Halloran are surplus to requirements and have allegedly shown a lack of work ethic before.

For the record, I'd have liked to have seen the supposed future stars beat a Junior team. But I'm not really overly fussed about a pre-season friendly involving our U-20s. However, for whatever ludicrous reason, "fans" like you seem to be using this as ammo against the first team. It really is incredible.

I read one halfwit's post earlier claiming that 6 of our new players were playing in that game!

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7 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said:

You seem angry.

More annoyed than angry. In general people pay little to no attention to the Under 20's and put very little faith in friendly results. Therefore why are Rangers fans using the Under 20's, sorry, the Under 20's supplemented by those titans of the game Michael O'Halloran and Harry Forester (who hardly have 10 starts between them), getting beaten in a friendly as some reflection on the First Team?

It's the kind of thing a bheast would come away with.

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43 minutes ago, BigDak said:

More annoyed than angry. In general people pay little to no attention to the Under 20's and put very little faith in friendly results. Therefore why are Rangers fans using the Under 20's, sorry, the Under 20's supplemented by those titans of the game Michael O'Halloran and Harry Forester (who hardly have 10 starts between them), getting beaten in a friendly as some reflection on the First Team?

It's the kind of thing a bheast would come away with.

IT WAS A RANGERS TEAM AND THE RESULT WAS A REFLECTION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WAS FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE.

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9 hours ago, BigDak said:

FFS! How many times does it need to be repeated that this wasn't "a Rangers team". It was fucking boys supplemented by Forrester and O'Halloran.

Honestly, I give up with this place.

The poster goes to all the Youth games i think he will have an idea of what to expect from Rangers.

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On 12/07/2017 at 8:15 AM, BigDak said:

More annoyed than angry. In general people pay little to no attention to the Under 20's and put very little faith in friendly results. Therefore why are Rangers fans using the Under 20's, sorry, the Under 20's supplemented by those titans of the game Michael O'Halloran and Harry Forester (who hardly have 10 starts between them), getting beaten in a friendly as some reflection on the First Team?

It's the kind of thing a bheast would come away with.

Think you answered your own question in your last line.

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