Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 What a pathetic thread, but sums up the mind sets of the delusionary. Firstly he didn't bring himself here. He was recruited by the board and if in this very short period of time when he has yet to bed in his own players as opposed to being surrounded by and having to play dross and malcontents at that. If that's considered failure, then it's being aimed at the wrong guy. Try having a go at the board who are pretty much unaccountable for anything since their rise to power. A fucking second rate competition that we never had a hope in hell of qualifying to the group stages in and trying to achieve something that no other team in Scotland could do in our extended absence. Yet here we are doing what we do best. Sacapegoat united. Let the guy get his own team on the park ffs and then judge It appears the glory boys can't get over the gory days. Well the reality is we are not what we were and we have a mountain to climb to get back there. No doubt it's the self same protagonists that held the magic hat in such esteem and look how that turned out. There are none so fickle indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don1972 491 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Nothing,nil,zèro,fuck all,źilch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,431 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 The only positive is the support have realized he isn't the man to take us forward early on where as Warburton was in a job 6 months too long because people continued to think he'd come good Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Bear 411 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Murty said: He's the best looking manager we've had. Arse bandit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,431 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: What a pathetic thread, but sums up the mind sets of the delusionary. Firstly he didn't bring himself here. He was recruited by the board and if in this very short period of time when he has yet to bed in his own players as opposed to being surrounded by and having to play dross and malcontents at that. If that's considered failure, then it's being aimed at the wrong guy. Try having a go at the board who are pretty much unaccountable for anything since their rise to power. A fucking second rate competition that we never had a hope in hell of qualifying to the group stages in and trying to achieve something that no other team in Scotland could do in our extended absence. Yet here we are doing what we do best. Sacapegoat united. Let the guy get his own team on the park ffs and then judge It appears the glory boys can't get over the gory days. Well the reality is we are not what we were and we have a mountain to climb to get back there. No doubt it's the self same protagonists that held the magic hat in such esteem and look how that turned out. There are none so fickle indeed. You are an absolute parody. The board didn't lose the record against the sheep, the board didnt give us our most humiliating defeat against the filth EVER and the board didn't get fucked by the 4th best team in Luxembourg over 2 legs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,057 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Speaks better English than most posters on RM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: You are an absolute parody. The board didn't lose the record against the sheep, the board didnt give us our most humiliating defeat against the filth EVER and the board didn't get fucked by the 4th best team in Luxembourg over 2 legs. You don't do big picture. Never have done and never will. Bring in Billy two's up, that'll sort it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: What a pathetic thread, but sums up the mind sets of the delusionary. Firstly he didn't bring himself here. He was recruited by the board and if in this very short period of time when he has yet to bed in his own players as opposed to being surrounded by and having to play dross and malcontents at that. If that's considered failure, then it's being aimed at the wrong guy. Try having a go at the board who are pretty much unaccountable for anything since their rise to power. A fucking second rate competition that we never had a hope in hell of qualifying to the group stages in and trying to achieve something that no other team in Scotland could do in our extended absence. Yet here we are doing what we do best. Sacapegoat united. Let the guy get his own team on the park ffs and then judge It appears the glory boys can't get over the gory days. Well the reality is we are not what we were and we have a mountain to climb to get back there. No doubt it's the self same protagonists that held the magic hat in such esteem and look how that turned out. There are none so fickle indeed. There is no excuse for the money spent, and so called ability of his hapless nomarks to be dumped out by a team that are no better than Pollok Juniors. I was all for letting him mould his own team and make a judgement then. Sadly, he has totally failed and fans are now well within their reasonable right to demand his sacking. Let's be clear, whether the Euorpa is second rate or not, we totally embarrased ourselves last week - and in my opinion it is a gross misconduct to allow ourselves to be defeated by Progres. THIS WAS DISCUSSED ON R5 AS THE WORST RESULT IN BRITISH EUROPEAN COMPETITION. There are no excuses for him.We can still get him out, it may cost us, however we need to build confidence and stability in the league. Pedro is simply not the man to do it. A very nice and enthusiastic manager, but is totally lost here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,431 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said: You don't do big picture. Never have done and never will. Bring in Billy two's up, that'll sort it! The big picture is he has had 2 of our worst ever results in about 4 months in charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, RD.1872 said: Can't think of one single thing he's done that can be classed as a positive. Could maybe say faith in the youths but even that was forced through injuries... Are the signings of Alves and Dorrans classed as a negative in your eyes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy 731 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, hammer93 said: Are the signings of Alves and Dorrans classed as a negative in your eyes? Funnily enough I was about to post that these were the only two positives I could think of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Gaffbear said: A lot of players and ex managers seem very impressed by talking to him. Talk is cheap. Simple as that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 The only positives I can give him is bringing Bruno Alves to Rangers and I still think the boy Cardoso will go on to big things. Tactically he's done nothing to show me he's a good manager though. Him not thinking McKay is good enough but Dalcio is will forever haunt me to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murty 210 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, Boaby Bear said: Arse bandit He's got a wife and kids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: The only positives I can give him is bringing Bruno Alves to Rangers and I still think the boy Cardoso will go on to big things. Tactically he's done nothing to show me he's a good manager though. Him not thinking McKay is good enough but Dalcio is will forever haunt me to be honest. I'm not his biggest fan, but to be fair to him McKay really should have went earlier on. Far too flimsy and inconsistent, we will not be talking about him in Scotland in 5 years time as he is destined for for English League 2 obscurity. Alves could work out very well for us, and Pedro deserves a good bit of credit in getting him here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, Terry Hurlock Loyal said: I'm not his biggest fan, but to be fair to him McKay really should have went earlier on. Far too flimsy and inconsistent, we will not be talking about him in Scotland in 5 years time as he is destined for for English League 2 obscurity. Alves could work out very well for us, and Pedro deserves a good bit of credit in getting him here. Yeah McKay going is something I could handle, it's just the fact he was told he was surplus to requirements yet that Dalcio cunt is starting games for us. Stuff like that makes me worry about Caixinha even more tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Our only issue if we were to sack him now would be losing the commitment of Alves, Cardoso, Pena and Herrera. Those 4 all came because Pedro headhunted them. So you feel like if he left they'd feel a bit "lost" and might not want to play under a new manager. But if we were to sack him now, who would you want in? I'd honestly give it to McLeish on a temporary basis and then let Mark Allen work on a permanent replacement Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Murty said: He's the best looking manager we've had. Gay Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryju84 3,170 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 He has filled our weakness areas of central defense and holding midfield areas. He needs to kick the attackers up the arse because. He isnt scared to change things, tactically during a game etc. Plan B is a plan B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 The level of criticism aimed at him at this stage is embarrassing. Forget about last season, he was using MW's players, most of whom were useless fucks, and he knew the season was a write off so was experimenting. Absolutely shocking result against the Luxembourg nobodies, yes, but let's at least take into account the mitigating factors. Ridiculously early in the season, new team being put together and a few of our more promising new signings didn't even play. That's not an excuse, it was still awful but it's not season defining. Let's see where we are in a few months, the hysterical reaction isn't necessary at this stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy2391 574 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Really the only positive I can give him is how he went about in the early stages of restructuring the squad. He had targets identified, wrapped up a lot of signings quickly and early on with little media coverage (easier given the leagues, granted) even escorting some of the players on the flights was a nice touch. It would have been a very difficult job for anyone to come in and basically rebuild a squad from scratch and try and create a winning mentality and maintain decent morale amongst the remaining players while introducing so many new faces. With that in mind it sounds like he has taken a bit too mercenary an approach to the task and I think that's really not helping with the morale of the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alves70 393 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I think it was a brave decision by him taking on the job well past the midway point in the season. Would of been easy for him to just sit back and take the job in May or June and not take any flak. If we are being honest Rangers have been dreadful since the 2nd half of the championship season minus a few cup games it's been dire stuff. It's going to take time no matter who the gaffer is to turn things around. The big problem is the previous incumbent really did not care about winning as long as his style of play was adhered to and some players can't get out of that mindset. Too many side to side passes and incredibly slow build up play and that needs to be worked on before the season starts. I think PC knows the problems that need to be sorted unlike MW but it's going to take time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,343 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 The board absolutely have to shoulder some of the blame here. I like his disciplinarian attitude and he has signed some good footballers, winners but he is the problem. If the board knew they were going to spend north of £8 million this summer, why would you genuinely give it to a manager from the Qatari league? Cause he gave a good presentation ffs? At the time Harry Redknapp was available. It's fucking simple maths, take a mill out the transfer budget add that to the 800k were paying this dud and you have yourself a top manager. 1.8-2.2 million salary would have brung in Rednkapp IMO. He was on £3 mill with QPR in 2012, and took no salary at Derby unless they finished top 6 and took nothing until Birmingham were safe as well. It's fucking mental to believe that Caixinha was the best guy available for the job. With the money we've spent it's crazy to invest that in a guy whose most successful seasons came as an assistant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 He can baffle everybody with bullshit, just ask the board. He is even better than Dave King for bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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