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Over the last 10 years the Union Bears have been proud of our rise from a small group in the Copland Rear to having our own section at Ibrox, becoming the heartbeat of the stadium on matchday whilst c

Lets not turn this thread in to that, plenty threads for that. This is about safe standing. 

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Im hopeful of it being CF. It's a total no brainer for me.

My previous post wasn't out of concern for ST holders in the CF. I'm one myself. I'm just saying IF the club decide that the thoughts of those already there are paramount, then the majority probably won't go for it.

Would the club be reluctant to conver CF1 due to the possibility of walkovers from the GF? They may need to put stewarding'barriers up at extra costing.

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55 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said:

Ludicrous. They are pushing it for self fulfilling reasons and to make themselves more important than they are. 

All season ticket holders are equal, are you trying to say some are more equal because they are in the UB?

Wit?

They're pushing it because the whole reason the Union Bears exist is to make Rangers games a better atmosphere. 

Safe standing would be a massive step forward.

To make them more important :lol: gees peace. 

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3 minutes ago, Virtuoso said:

What are the laws / allowed ratios for going from seating to standing? For example, you remove 500 seats, how much are you then allowed in 'standing'?

Right now in Scotland the permit granted for safe standing doesn't allow for any extra. But it can potentially go up to 1.8.

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3 minutes ago, Virtuoso said:

What are the laws / allowed ratios for going from seating to standing? For example, you remove 500 seats, how much are you then allowed in 'standing'?

the ratio is 18 standing fans to 10 seated fans so, 900 standing to 500 seated fans?

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10 minutes ago, PRW. said:

Wit?

They're pushing it because the whole reason the Union Bears exist is to make Rangers games a better atmosphere. 

Safe standing would be a massive step forward.

To make them more important :lol: gees peace. 

See to be fair, I kind of understand his point, although put across badly. 

If there's a safe standing section in the CF, it should be balloted for anyone that has a season book in that area, or at Ibrox in general (depending on timescales). 

It shouldn't be a case of fill it with UBs initially, and ballot off the rest, for example.

It's not a dig / criticism of the UBs and appreciate they are the driving force for it. Season tickets holders have to be treated equally IMO. 

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1 minute ago, Frank Harrison said:

If people wanted to join they would join wherever they were located.

Self fulfilling wanting to improve the atmosphere, something that benefits us all. Nae bother. :lol: 

It's 100% self fulfilling. The question has been raised to benefit their group first and foremost.

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15 minutes ago, PRW. said:

Wit?

They're pushing it because the whole reason the Union Bears exist is to make Rangers games a better atmosphere. 

Safe standing would be a massive step forward.

To make them more important :lol: gees peace. 

Yes firstly to allow them to be part of that. If it's an open request then all season ticket holders should be asked. 

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I sit in CF4 and would be more than happy to give up my seat to accommodate safe standing - as long as a get a good seat in return :sarcasm:

The UB are the ones pushing it and are the most influential in making it happen - only right they get it as a group imo. If the entire CF is turned into Safe Standing - most who would like to be there will be surely? 

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13 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

See to be fair, I kind of understand his point, although put across badly. 

If there's a safe standing section in the CF, it should be balloted for anyone that has a season book in that area, or at Ibrox in general (depending on timescales). 

It shouldn't be a case of fill it with UBs initially, and ballot off the rest, for example.

It's not a dig / criticism of the UBs and appreciate they are the driving force for it. Season tickets holders have to be treated equally IMO. 

There isn't enough UB for them to anywhere near fill it. 3 or 4 rows at most.

12 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said:

It's 100% self fulfilling. The question has been raised to benefit their group first and foremost.

And you know this how?

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35 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

See to be fair, I kind of understand his point, although put across badly. 

If there's a safe standing section in the CF, it should be balloted for anyone that has a season book in that area, or at Ibrox in general (depending on timescales). 

It shouldn't be a case of fill it with UBs initially, and ballot off the rest, for example.

It's not a dig / criticism of the UBs and appreciate they are the driving force for it. Season tickets holders have to be treated equally IMO. 

I made this point earlier - What happens if everybody in CF says "Fuck it. I'll just stay here and stand".

Where do UB's go then? :confused:

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13 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said:

There isn't enough UB for them to anywhere near fill it. 3 or 4 rows at most.

 

I would like to think that other season ticket holders in BF1 who are not members but have stood beside the UB for years would have the chance to move with the group, I would be gutted if me and my boy were left behind.. Fuck this sitting down at the fibaw with some happy clappy cunt behind giving you a tap on the shoulder every time you stand up. Got my tickets in BF1 because it's the singing section and I could stand for 90 minutes,  if the singing section gets moved I expect to get moved with it. 

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1 minute ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said:

Not at all. I'd bet when negotiations start the UB start getting all arses with demands.

That's not in the interest of the wider fan base.

You're making assumptions based on absolutely nothing.

I think you are seriously over estimating the importance of the UB.

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6 minutes ago, thebooler said:

I made this point earlier - What happens if everybody in CF says "Fuck it. I'll just stay here and stand".

Where do UB's go then? :confused:

Well in that case they'd have no choice but to not get in, that is very, very unlikely to happen though.

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3 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said:

You're making assumptions based on absolutely nothing.

I think you are seriously over estimating the importance of the UB.

No I'm over estimating how important they think they are.

Just because you ask for it doesn't mean you are the one to get it because you don't like where you currently are.

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6 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said:

No I'm over estimating how important they think they are.

Just because you ask for it doesn't mean you are the one to get it because you don't like where you currently are.

Well they will be in it if it happens so get it up ye.

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