Chineseboy 1,563 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I don't think they should be playing together, one or the other in my opinion. Both seem to be way too similar, and both of them together stops us getting up the pitch quickly. Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackandra 732 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 We just won 4-1 But let's look for negatives. Ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,251 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 There's plenty other things needs addressed before that. Like bloody Miller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Dorrans should be further up, he looks too ordinary when he's not up the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Jack to be honest seems like a star to me. Notice him far more than Dorrans in the games. I think Dorrans is a very tidy player and I think he is doing his job well also. Dont really see the need to break up the partnership to be honest. It isnt flashy, but we seem to control the midfield well. Bigger issue is Miller and Niko for me. Love Miller and think he is a great pro, but his best days are behind him. Pena to start the next match for me in his place. Niko is too much of a luxury for me, Windass to start in his place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Thought Dorrans was anonomous today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Ryan Jack was immense again today. Dorrans played well broke up a lot and let the wide players and the attackers play their game. Very good today after Miller and Kranjcar went off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I like Jack and Dorrans and wouldn't worry too much about the partnership but as said above Miller and Niko are holding the team back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseboy 1,563 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Blackandra said: We just won 4-1 But let's look for negatives. Ffs I'm happy with the win, but going forward we will need to address some areas of our game. This pairing might turn out to be very good together but just feel that we lack some fluency at the moment when they are together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Jack and Dorrans are one of the best things about the team right now. What we need to change is Miller who brings next to fuck all and Kranjcar who hasn't carried his preseason form in to the competitive games. Give one of the young loan players a run out at left-wing in front of Wallace. Put Pena in the middle in front of Jack and Dorrans and let's see the boy grow in to this team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,328 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Bit slow and sideways dorrans atm. Jack is doing is job perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseboy 1,563 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just now, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Jack and Dorrans are one of the best things about the team right now. What we need to change is Miller who brings next to fuck all and Kranjcar who hasn't carried his preseason form in to the competitive games. Give one of the young loan players a run out at left-wing in front of Wallace. Put Pena in the middle in front of Jack and Dorrans and let's see the boy grow in to this team. Agree with Miller, I like the guy, a solid pro, but he really shouldn't be starting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just now, jim beam said: I like Jack and Dorrans and wouldn't worry too much about the partnership but as said above Miller and Niko are holding the team back. To be honest.. I haven't seen a lot of matches yet -- hopefully get up to Glasgow soon. but from what I read on here from many,,, Miller certainly should not be in the starting 11.. and Niko .. while still a great passer of the ball -- is well past it. Jack and Dorrans? I'd give them time to figure it out... Well. that's Pedro's job... But they need time. I'm not going to draw a parallel to Lampard and Gerrard though lol Still excellent victory... need to keep up the momentum before we play the scum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Windass or the wee Man City guy for Nico, Pena for Miller. Candedias looking like a great wee signing, guy doesn't know the meaning of 'give up'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,282 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Steady, if unspectacular from the two. I don't think we'll see either dominate or dictate the game but they'll need to step up against "them". Both did fine today but, as others have said, the negatives are the two OAP's in the team that have offered very little across the last 2-3 games. In all fairness, Id bench Miller but just get rid of Kranjcar; waste of a wage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee9 3,967 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Dorrans really needs to be giving us more. Sitting far to deep which in turn is contributing very little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,853 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 minute ago, jim beam said: I like Jack and Dorrans and wouldn't worry too much about the partnership but as said above Miller and Niko are holding the team back. Agree 100%, teams are clearly going to set up just to stifle us, we need pace and runners to stretch the game. Miller and Kranjcar just slow everything down and so often take the momentum out of our attacks.Not to mention that they both just wander around the pitch playing wherever they want. I'm surprised that Caixinha continues to pick them given he seems to like structure and players having a distinct role, hopefully both will be phased out after today. Overall though a good result, not a great performance but signs of improvement and hopefully still a lot more to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,430 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Dorrans is playing the same way I've seen him play for the last few years. Pretty average footballer at his peak never mind now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just now, dee9 said: Dorrans really needs to be giving us more. Sitting far to deep which in turn is contributing very little. cause kenny every position miller keeps dropping into the space dorrans would drive into, drop miller for herrera, and allow dorrans to play his game, he'll flourish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Middle of the of the park gives us nothing , time to start Pena who looks willing to play a forward pass Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee9 3,967 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: cause kenny every position miller keeps dropping into the space dorrans would drive into, drop miller for herrera, and allow dorrans to play his game, he'll flourish Yeah I wouldn't disagree with that mate. It's so frustrating as well as I feel he could be doing so much more week in week out for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Dorrans was sublime today, would've been my MOTM if not for Morelos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,205 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 OP is mental, I thought both were tremendous today. 2nd half Dorrans was superb. Jack is a tidy wee player too that does all the shit jobs really, really well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandhi1872 186 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 23 minutes ago, Chineseboy said: I don't think they should be playing together, one or the other in my opinion. Both seem to be way too similar, and both of them together stops us getting up the pitch quickly. Thoughts? It's the formation not the players that stops us getting up the pitch quickly. The fact we have two in the centre means they have to do doggies to get up and down the pitch. Imo we should change to a 4-2-3-1 and have Dorrans playing further it. He is being limited by this formation and I think the opening day shows he can get into the box and score. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,035 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Jack is doing his thing and doing it well. Dorrans not at the races atm. I'd play Jack as dmf against shite like Dundee. No need for 2. Get him pushing forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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