BailliestonTB 270 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 DONT think either of them put a foot wrong today. Jack is an absolute machine in there would love to see how many tackles etc he wins per game, workhorse. Future captian of this club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aye_Ready 12 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Quite like the partnership, would be nice to see Dorrans get forward a bit more but no real complaints atm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,114 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 What makes them too similar? For me they are very different types of player. Jack was excellent today and thought Dorrans had a very good 2nd half. But poor in the 1st. i really don't see them being similar at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Jack was outstanding. Dorrans is a real worry. Sitting far too deep he was anonymous again today. He just doesn't' do anything at all. Defensively or offensively. Very disappointed with him. Looks the way Halliday did at CDM, fish out of water. 4th poor game in a row for Dorrans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,900 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 This must be the most negative pairing ever to play centre mid for Rangers - wish to fuck they would at least try and go forward now and again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseboy 1,563 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Creampuff said: I've no idea how someone could have watched us over the last few weeks and come to the conclusion that Jack and/or Dorrans are the problem. Baffling. I am not saying they are a problem. But, like a few other posters, I just think we should be attacking a bit more, and the two of them are too defensive. As I said, in a five man midfield , I would definitely have them, just not in a four man midfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Wouldn't have thought they were similar players. I expected Jack to tidy up in the midfield while Dorrans got forward but he seems to sit back and do the same job as Jack. Always the simple pass with him as well and never looking for that killer ball. Disappointing since the Motherwell game imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Dorrans is being misused the very same way Halliday was. GD is not and never will be a defensive player the way Pedro is hanging him out to dry. 4 games now he hasn't kicked a ball. A mere passenger in games. I would play him wide left with Pena in front of Jack and Rossiter. Candeias right and Morelos up front. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndoBien 105 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: Dorrans is being misused the very same way Halliday was. GD is not and never will be a defensive player the way Pedro is hanging him out to dry. 4 games now he hasn't kicked a ball. A mere passenger in games. I would play him wide left with Pena in front of Jack and Rossiter. Candeias right and Morelos up front. That could work, Dorrans on the left, he has some creativity in him, and a decent work rate to help Wallace in that side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, AndoBien said: That could work, Dorrans on the left, he has some creativity in him, and a decent work rate to help Wallace in that side. I've seen him play on the flanks a number of times and he has always been a danger going forward. He's an attacking player with outstanding delivery and a great shot on him. Right now he is being ruined and stifled playing so deep. As it stands his signing is pointless, he's bringing nothing to the table at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxterboy 476 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Dorrans has demonstrated, at times this season, that he has the rare creative talent in the offensive zone of providing through balls down the channels to the, splitting defences. Leave Jack to clean up defensively and feed Dorrans to make these plays. Hopefully, the fact that Dorrans has not done enough of this is down to tactics rather than something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Don't understand how 2 lads in centre midfield today played the exact same game and done the exact same things and one is deemed immense and the other isn't doing enough ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 13 hours ago, Chineseboy said: I don't think they should be playing together, one or the other in my opinion. Both seem to be way too similar, and both of them together stops us getting up the pitch quickly. Thoughts? Thank fuck you don't pick ypthe team then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,535 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I think Dorrans is being underestimated a bit here. Sometimes people look too much at the ball and not much at the work that gets done off it (which is natural BTW)! Dorrans does a lot of work off the ball. For me, though, Jack was outstanding today and my MOTM (although I have no complaints about Morelos getting it). If you remember our team last season then look at what we have now it's like night and day. Obviously the big tests are yet to come with them in 2 weeks and the sheep but I'm certainly a lot more confident - as are the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy2391 574 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 *posted in wrong thread ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Drrans is doing nothing Jinty. Jack is mopping up, playing that invisible enforcer role, Dorrans is just there, on the park, doing nothing. He needs to up his game and play a bigger role further up the park. He's very much going through the motions out of position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal 547 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 12 hours ago, Tenerife Bear said: I've seen him play on the flanks a number of times and he has always been a danger going forward. He's an attacking player with outstanding delivery and a great shot on him. Right now he is being ruined and stifled playing so deep. As it stands his signing is pointless, he's bringing nothing to the table at all. When was the last time you seen him on the wing? About 8 years ago at West Brom?? Your just one of many on here who last seen him when he was at his peak as an attacker at wba many many moons ago. In between that time like it or not hes played a defensive midfield roll for West Brom and Norwich. You fire posts out as if your always right but actual know fuck all in regards to what position he's occupied last few years. He's doing nowhere near enough but let's end this "he's an out and out attacking midfielder" carry on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 14,739 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I am not not worried about dorrans . I think he has been ok since arriving . Not doing anything spectacular while also not doing to much wrong . I still think he will come good particularly if Pedro plays hims to his strengths Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnwardsandUpwards 834 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Think both add something to the team.Unfortunately they also have the problem of Miller not staying where he should be and Niko not being able to move much from where he is!!!This means they have little option for passes in front and a liability to cover beside them.They go forward when they can but retain possession when they can't but always try to keep the ball alive trying to create space.For me it was a different game when Windass and Penna came on.Windass will attack players opening up space for Jack and Dorrans to exploit and Penna was actually very good at taking up the positions in the box that Miller should be doing and getting his reward with a goal. For me they are both great players just tweak the people around them and we will see even more from them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoKrfc 106 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I will agree that both are playing in a similar part of the pitch but I don't think there is any issues at all. Dorian's does a lot of breaking up play and keeps the ball ticking over, which has been his game for the last 4 or 5 years. Jack was the best player on the park today I thought, and was involved in the 3rd goal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 18 hours ago, Chineseboy said: Agree with Miller, I like the guy, a solid pro, but he really shouldn't be starting. Best to use Miller as a sub for last fifteen or twenty minutes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 18 hours ago, Chineseboy said: I'm happy with the win, but going forward we will need to address some areas of our game. This pairing might turn out to be very good together but just feel that we lack some fluency at the moment when they are together. It was a great win but you are spot on, Dorrans seems to have disappeared, Jack is doing alright, we'll get away with it against dundee but the scum will be a different story,,that's the litmus test ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,263 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Jack is our best midfielder, to pay nothing for what he has brought to the team is a tremendous piece of business. Would like to see more from Dorrans though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,900 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 36 minutes ago, AldoKrfc said: I will agree that both are playing in a similar part of the pitch but I don't think there is any issues at all. Dorian's does a lot of breaking up play and keeps the ball ticking over, which has been his game for the last 4 or 5 years. Jack was the best player on the park today I thought, and was involved in the 3rd goal. Can't agree with your MOTM Cardeias made 2 of the goals, worked his socks off and showed plenty ability throughout the game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,453 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 We got dorrans for what a million or so? Jack on a free. To be honest they're a good value midfield partnership. Aye they're not great but there's far greater areas of concern than those two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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